Can the world pull out from the war economy before a collapse?

[knuckey]

All signs worldwide point to a war economy.

Europez and America keep getting more and more invested in armaments and their manufacture.
The middle east is at the center of it as always. Now also Russia.
Now even Asian countries are contributing more and more to severely fronts.

History has shown us that when the worldwide economy focuses on war the turbulence leads to a global collapse of many otherwise considered vital parts of the economy eventually. Is it too late to stop this potential outcome right on its tracks by now? Or will the warmongers keep us all implicated till the bitter end?

I can't imagine a clear end yet, many countries are currently focusing on the defense/military sector, imagine how unfair it would be if a country had rich natural resources but managed by another country, this is not only economic but also the fear of countries if they don't want to cooperate with a country that is strong in the military field. A strong country will seize resources from a weak country. Indeed, both are mutually beneficial, one party offers security and the other party offers resources. What I can't imagine is when the resources have run out, maybe they have to accept the bitter reality

[bhadz]

Or will the warmongers keep us all implicated till the bitter end?

The noise of this war is even echoing in our economy. That is because our country has been driven by the biggest corporations and they have the control to oil and our food chain. So, the price increase has been happening when there are some triggers and even with the supply that they have bought when the price is low, on an instant they're announcing price increase for oil products. And that affects a lot of industries that are driving our economy. I think that there's no solution to this as of the moment but a complete truce and stop of war. When there was a ceasefire, the things that have raised their prices didn't even roll back. This is how our economy works in the hands of the corporations as they're friends with our government.

[Iroh]

All signs worldwide point to a war economy. 

And why is that?
Because for so long, some parties, due to several selfish crazy reasons, seemingly can't do without fighting a proxy or/and direct war. The unrest and uncertainty of it all would make anyone seek to ramp up its defenses. Also the rhetoric used in todays political climate doesn't make things any easier. We have politicians and leaders of government making unverified and baseless claims in a bid to push for even more support for spending on defense and if it comes down to it, warfare. The option to sit down, compromise and try to make peace first is slowly being relegated to the back. We're all rushing to acquire more guns and bombs. The reality of it all is quite sad.

[Queentoshi]

All signs worldwide point to a war economy.

Europez and America keep getting more and more invested in armaments and their manufacture.
The middle east is at the center of it as always. Now also Russia.
Now even Asian countries are contributing more and more to severely fronts.

History has shown us that when the worldwide economy focuses on war the turbulence leads to a global collapse of many otherwise considered vital parts of the economy eventually. Is it too late to stop this potential outcome right on its tracks by now? Or will the warmongers keep us all implicated till the bitter end?

It becomes something to actually worry about if the big countries of the world in Europe and America are getting more interested in investing in weapons and their manufacture because it shows that there is no intention to remain unprepared for any situation like a crisis, Or another thinking is that these countries understand that for you to be peaceful you also have to be capable of violence that some other people or country that may have plan to look for your trouble  will prefer to avoid you. As a general trend of top countries to start investing in weaponry, any country not following in that manner will be left behind and likely even oppressed in the future for it.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

All signs worldwide point to a war economy.

It's all about the dominance (power play) and profit making for the majority players in this economy and other countries are beginning to catch up too that's why they're turning to making war equipment to boost their economy disregarding the impact this is having. Russia supplying drones to Iran, Ukraine getting support from UN and so many others too, everybody just trying to capitalize on the opportunity to make profits from war or weaken the other country political power. China/India and Russia benefiting from the street of Homuz closure. A county or multiple countries  are always benefiting whenever there's a war and that's why we'll keep having a war powered economy and I don't think the world will pull out even though it can because some countries are making massive gains in this chaotic times.

[Curious T]

From the point the world got to a stage where a country had to be very powerful in order to prevent other countries from exploiting or undermining it, it meant just one thing. Countries did not build nuclear weapons because they planned on using them. They built them because when they have something as powerful as that, others won't attack them. The concept of mutually assured destruction brought us to where we are today.

Now, they all want to show that they are strong and nobody should dare them. When everybody is filled with egos like that, it's very difficult for them not to escalate the issue. If you look at all the issues in the world today between countries, they are issues that can be solved by dialogue, but their egos won't let them. I don't understand why humans only see differences when they look at people, instead of just seeing them as human beings.

[Lucius]

Some countries simply have no choice but to invest more money in military defense because war is at their doorstep. As for Europe, no one else is to blame except Russia, which is waging war because it wants the territory of another country at all costs. If Russia gave up the war, it would probably affect the mood change, but while the war lasts, other countries will not stop arming themselves.

I also don't believe that economies will collapse globally, it's all part of a process that takes place gradually - because countries pay in installments and it takes years for weapons to be delivered. Considering that I come from a country that was attacked and suffered heavily, I have nothing against my country buying modern weapons systems, especially if the fact is that the country that attacked us is buying even more.

[Arenga pinnata]

I think it will be very difficult to break free from this war economy, even though, well, it does bring us closer to ruin. The competition among several major countries that constantly flaunt their power is truly a sign that everyone wants to prove who is the strongest, and that is essentially what has led us to this problem. Behind it all, it’s also about the struggle for natural resources, territorial expansion, and reputation in the eyes of the world. In fact, we’ve seen so many small countries with natural resources ultimately come under the control of larger nations. And I feel that even though we’re in the modern era, the law of the jungle still prevails the strongest hold the power. That’s why the latest missile tests and whatever else they may be, are always paraded on display; well, it’s all aimed at intimidating opponents or showing one’s teeth to other nations. So, in the end, whether they like it or not, everyone is racing to be at the forefront of weapons development and military related business or investment. because, as it turns out, every bullet comes at a high price.

[MArsland]

All signs worldwide point to a war economy.

Europez and America keep getting more and more invested in armaments and their manufacture.
The middle east is at the center of it as always. Now also Russia.
Now even Asian countries are contributing more and more to severely fronts.

History has shown us that when the worldwide economy focuses on war the turbulence leads to a global collapse of many otherwise considered vital parts of the economy eventually. Is it too late to stop this potential outcome right on its tracks by now? Or will the warmongers keep us all implicated till the bitter end?

If a superpower starts a war openly, it is only a matter of time for geopolitical domino effects to occur in other countries. China will increase pressure on some Asian countries, especially Taiwan. North Korea is clearly directly bombarding South Korea, Russia is increasingly unstoppable in attacking Ukraine. India and Pakistan could potentially also restart. many will start a war anywhere because even now it is basically waiting. America cannot start a war in any way. They as a superpower still have the power to actually prevent it.

Then developing countries, whose military capacity is minimal, whose economies are unstable, will suffer more severe consequences. They will be forced to choose the strongest side but here the rest of the people suffer because they have to survive in a war they did not start.

[NeuroticFish]

That is why I do not anticipate a massive world war.

Modern warfare will likely take the form of conflicts between nations, and these wars will be protracted. While the rivalry might subsequently continue in the commercial and technological spheres, I am certain that they do not want these conflicts to escalate into a full-scale war.

Indeed, currently the physical war is localized to a few conflicts. The rest - commercial, technological, psychological, political, name it - is going on, heavily, under our noses. Far too many people are already part of it and don't understand.
But I am not as optimistic as you are on the full scale war. I do hope we will not get there, but we are incredibly close to it

[Lucius]

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But I am not as optimistic as you are on the full scale war. I do hope we will not get there, but we are incredibly close to it

We are as close to a new world war as it takes for world powers to ensure the survival of the human species. Because the next world war will be a war of total annihilation, and only a few will survive somewhere deep underground or maybe even in space.

If we don't destroy ourselves, we will probably be destroyed by some super AI because we will be considered an inferior species that realistically destroys the planet we live on, and is potentially dangerous for other planets that it could reach one day. It is paradoxical that while countries are arming each other in order to feel more secure, an invisible threat is literally hanging over their heads.

[Findingnemo]

If some of the leaders keep their ego away and think about billions of people then it can be stopped, I don't mean there will be no after effects because the damage is done already and people are feeling the burden on their budget. If I am not wrong these last few years and few wars made the prices of many things to go up mainly the fuel cost which means the cost of every product increased that needs to be trasported.

[tiCeR]

Thing is, defense budgets are about the only thing politicians on all sides agree on. Nobody ever lost an election for being "too strong on security". So a voluntary U-turn isn't happening.

What usually ends these cycles is more money printed and a more indebted public. Which is exactly the purpose of a war. The western titanic has hit the iceberg, and everyone on politics is just stealing everything before the collapse.

And there is a self-enforcing mechanism at play even if one politician decides to be "weaker on security", just to grab up your wording here. It doesn't need the politician from country x to take the risk and suggest less military spending to the public when neighbor countries or other big powers in the world decide to scale up their military spending. As soon as there is a considerably powerful nation to increase military spending, politicians around the world can easily justify they have to do the same. See Europe and Russia. Europe is already spending borderline amounts, several times the amount of that of Russia and yet the claim is they have to further increase spending because Russia is said to increase their spending.

And now that technological progress will keep accelerating at exponential pace, just think about how quickly spending from yesterday becomes obsolete again, giving politicians a new reason to sell to the public that more spending must be done. Endless cycle.

[Spaceman1000$]

All signs worldwide point to a war economy.

Europez and America keep getting more and more invested in armaments and their manufacture.
The middle east is at the center of it as always. Now also Russia.
Now even Asian countries are contributing more and more to severely fronts.

History has shown us that when the worldwide economy focuses on war the turbulence leads to a global collapse of many otherwise considered vital parts of the economy eventually. Is it too late to stop this potential outcome right on its tracks by now? Or will the warmongers keep us all implicated till the bitter end?

The world is not entirely into war, but we have few countries that have either been sponsoring this war or are directly involved in the war situation. if the other nations that are not directly involved into this war can get the sponsorers attention for them to stop the war or those that are directly involved to stop, then we can have a headway. I am saying so because there was no strong appeal by world leaders to get involved seriously in the Ukraine and the Russian war, both countries were initially threatening each other, which I think was an opportunity for world leaders to swing into action promptly and stop the chaos, but I did not see much of that effort, if Nations are threatening within each other to show might in terms of who is more greater with ammunitions, other nations of the world should always step in to make sure nobody fires the first shot, that way you will end a war without starting it.

So yes we can pull out of the wall economy if we have leaders that are ready to sacrifice their ego for humanity to survive, but when pride rules over our leaders, they would want to show superiority to their fellow human being which is the bane of our problem.