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October 09, 2026, 11:06:05 PM
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Bitcoin is evolving and we are looking at the next phase of Bitcoin. Just imagine someone holding Bitcoin for the next ten years, and think about what the price of Bitcoin will be in the next ten years. The real profit is gotten in holding Bitcoin for the long term.
The price in the next 10 years hadn't guaranteed success with crypto, the price can keep dropping till the next 10 years and nothing can be done about it, longer period of holding doesn't mean you automatically become wealthy from doing that, It all depends the timing of investment and bear season.

Someone can start investing in Bitcoin immediately the bear season has ended and start reaping the good fruit within short period of time, while someone can start immediately bull season stops, wait another 4-5 years for retracement and balance.

That's too much to thinking about.

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October 09, 2026, 11:23:26 PM
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Why should anything Vitalik says matter? Listening to someone who got rich by creating a centralized shitcoin for even the slightest advice about Bitcoin is stupid. He wrote an extremely long post that nobody is going to read and understand.

As for your question, the general public may not be buying Bitcoin but smart people who have access to this forum are continuing to invest. Global threat is FUD, don't worry about that much.

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October 09, 2026, 11:44:11 PM
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As long as it is not affecting the Bitcoin market, I don't think there's a panic happening yet. Also, we won't see a boost in buyers just because of that. People and investors are much wiser now, and knowing what a FUD or not is easier thanks to Google and AI. Still, if it's going to happen, then it's going to be. It's difficult to talk about something that is not in reality just yet. There will be years of experiments, trial and error, and a lot of tweaking and upgrades before it happens.
So, we can just stick to what is here, and I believe Bitcoin is still the future. Regarding buyers, I think many of them are waiting for an entry point, and they may not have seen it yet.

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October 10, 2026, 02:26:42 AM
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Bitcoin is evolving and we are looking at the next phase of Bitcoin. Just imagine someone holding Bitcoin for the next ten years, and think about what the price of Bitcoin will be in the next ten years. The real profit is gotten in holding Bitcoin for the long term.
The price in the next 10 years hadn't guaranteed success with crypto, the price can keep dropping till the next 10 years and nothing can be done about it, longer period of holding doesn't mean you automatically become wealthy from doing that, It all depends the timing of investment and bear season.

Someone can start investing in Bitcoin immediately the bear season has ended and start reaping the good fruit within short period of time, while someone can start immediately bull season stops, wait another 4-5 years for retracement and balance.

That's too much to thinking about.
It is never possible to accurately predict the price of Bitcoin. In the short term Bitcoin price prediction is even more difficult. And it is not right to think that all Bitcoin holders will make profit. After a long time, the price of Bitcoin continues to increase, but the possibility of a decrease is not completely eliminated. So in fact it is not possible to accurately predict what the price of Bitcoin will be in the future.

However if all the factors can be analyzed so far then it is natural for everyone to think that the price of Bitcoin will increase in the long term. And if there is a real negative issue of Quantum Computing in the future, which has the potential to create problems for the security of Bitcoin, then it will have a negative impact on the entire crypto universe. However I do not think that the security of Bitcoin can be broken so easily.

But what I think about is that it does not take long for fake information to spread in the world. And people make decisions without making any judgment or analysis. So, if in the future people start exaggerating about Quantum Computing and create fear among the common people, then there will be some people who, without understanding, will think negatively about Bitcoin and refrain from holding it.

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October 10, 2026, 05:27:44 AM
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Bitcoin is evolving and we are looking at the next phase of Bitcoin. Just imagine someone holding Bitcoin for the next ten years, and think about what the price of Bitcoin will be in the next ten years. The real profit is gotten in holding Bitcoin for the long term.
The price in the next 10 years hadn't guaranteed success with crypto, the price can keep dropping till the next 10 years and nothing can be done about it, longer period of holding doesn't mean you automatically become wealthy from doing that, It all depends the timing of investment and bear season.

Someone can start investing in Bitcoin immediately the bear season has ended and start reaping the good fruit within short period of time, while someone can start immediately bull season stops, wait another 4-5 years for retracement and balance.

That's too much to thinking about.

We can't deny Bitcoin's potential, but let's be real, none of that is guaranteed. And profit depends on your capital, your entry price...and you're right, buying BTC doesn't make anyone rich automatically. For example, people who bought BTC at $69k in 2021 is only up around 20% after 5 years, while those who bought below $20k in 2022 are sitting on much bigger gains.

It would be a huge mistake to think that simply investing in Bitcoin and holding it long term will make you rich.


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October 10, 2026, 06:56:41 PM
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Bitcoin is evolving and we are looking at the next phase of Bitcoin. Just imagine someone holding Bitcoin for the next ten years, and think about what the price of Bitcoin will be in the next ten years. The real profit is gotten in holding Bitcoin for the long term.
The price in the next 10 years hadn't guaranteed success with crypto, the price can keep dropping till the next 10 years and nothing can be done about it, longer period of holding doesn't mean you automatically become wealthy from doing that, It all depends the timing of investment and bear season.

Someone can start investing in Bitcoin immediately the bear season has ended and start reaping the good fruit within short period of time, while someone can start immediately bull season stops, wait another 4-5 years for retracement and balance.

That's too much to thinking about.
  Don't get me wrong here am not saying that you holding Bitcoin for a long time will guarantee you automatic success in terms of profit. The point that I was trying to make here was the importance of holding your Bitcoin asset , and not only buying and selling when for the sake of profit generation when the price appriciates and is looking good for our favour with respect to our entry price.

As Bitcoin believers it's important that we should think about holding Bitcoin for the long term, because Bitcoin as an investment asset which is volatile. Price correction which affect our investment can only be corrected on the long term basis because, volatility as an effect affects the our investment.

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October 10, 2026, 08:14:41 PM
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I think Bitcoin has faced plenty of threat in the past, and survived them, and I know this quantum computing won't be the first. I quite understand how this statement made by Vitalik Buterin will keep people thinking considering his contribution in cryptocurrency, but investors should remain courageous because I don't think their is any technology that will come up to destroy Bitcoin. I know quite well that in the past, some persons tried to pull down Bitcoin by calling it trash, and fake digital asset, and even now, some people say it will go down to zero, but listening to some of this news can only make you feel discouraged, and sell your Bitcoin asset, still there are those who will keep their portfolio safe , and still continue in their investment.

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October 10, 2026, 08:30:01 PM
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Why should anything Vitalik says matter? Listening to someone who got rich by creating a centralized shitcoin for even the slightest advice about Bitcoin is stupid. He wrote an extremely long post that nobody is going to read and understand.

As for your question, the general public may not be buying Bitcoin but smart people who have access to this forum are continuing to invest. Global threat is FUD, don't worry about that much.

In my opinion, Vitalik Buterin is one of the smartest people in the cryptocurrency industry. He knows as much about Bitcoin as any of the Bitcoin Core developers. 🙋

There's a known problem: at a certain level of technological development, it's theoretically possible to calculate private keys given the public keys. This applies to both Ethereum and Bitcoin.

It was previously believed that this threat could only be realized by creating a powerful quantum computer. However, Justin Drake and Vitalik Buterin have conducted research and put forward a new hypothesis. Deriving a private key from a public key doesn't require inventing a new quantum computer. It's entirely possible that a strong artificial intelligence could find another way to do this (without a quantum computer). And this is a very real risk.

We can eliminate this risk with fairly simple steps. We need to use exclusively Native SegWit Bitcoin addresses and (this is very important) generate a new address for each new transaction.  At the same time, Bitcoin is a much more conservative cryptocurrency than Ethereum. Radically changing Bitcoin's code is always a very difficult task. Therefore, I will quote a phrase from a classic work very popular in my homeland ("A drowning man's salvation depends on himself"). The novel "The Twelve Chairs" by Ilf and Petrov.💁

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October 10, 2026, 11:45:31 PM
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My question now is how many weak hands have panic sold and who is buying Bitcoin for the next leg up?


We don't know how many will sell, but it seems like selling out of fear of QC threats is ridiculous, considering that until now QC hasn't been a serious threat to cryptography. There's so much information explaining how core developers have worked to develop the PQC algorithm, which gives holders a solid reason to stay calm and not rush to sell.
Especially since Bitcoin has already gone through various threats, so a threat like QC isn't really something holders need to be scared of, even though we all also need to keep an eye on its development.

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October 10, 2026, 11:58:07 PM
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My question now is how many weak hands have panic sold and who is buying Bitcoin for the next leg up?

I don't panic when someone causes danger, I believe that Bitcoin has not been harmed by any greater danger in the past and it will not be harmed now. I am determined to invest my Bitcoin, where I will invest more but I never panic when I hear this small panic right now. Because I invested in Bitcoin with money that I can lose so there is no reason to panic, I have held Bitcoin for the future and will continue to hold it. If the price of Bitcoin is lower, I will take the opportunity to buy more.

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October 11, 2026, 12:22:03 AM
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I think Bitcoin has faced plenty of threat in the past, and survived them, and I know this quantum computing won't be the first. I quite understand how this statement made by Vitalik Buterin will keep people thinking considering his contribution in cryptocurrency, but investors should remain courageous because I don't think their is any technology that will come up to destroy Bitcoin. I know quite well that in the past, some persons tried to pull down Bitcoin by calling it trash, and fake digital asset, and even now, some people say it will go down to zero, but listening to some of this news can only make you feel discouraged, and sell your Bitcoin asset, still there are those who will keep their portfolio safe , and still continue in their investment.
While Bitcoin has withstood a good deal of criticism in the past. It doesn't mean that there aren't any future risks. Even though the timeline is unclear. It's an area to consider seriously for quantum computing. A long term confidence must not only be that Bitcoin has survived numerous challenges. But also due to its adaptability. The only question is whether the developer and community can get ready in time prior to the onset of the threat.

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October 11, 2026, 04:23:34 AM
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Vitalik Buterin came out to drop his own version of Fear Factory on Bitcoin investors.
I'm sorry I going to have to call it a FUD.
You shouldn't take offense at Vitalik for his version of the forecast regarding possible events. Smiley By the way, what if he turns out to be right? That’s certainly possible too, isn't it?

By the time quantum computer hits Bitcoin,

Health care, hospitals, transportation, security systems, banks and logistics would be the first victims of Quantum computer, they would have been hit long before Bitcoin gets touched.
It’s simply that the bitcoin topic is generating the most buzz and seems scarier to people, as it concerns their most valuable asset - private savings; losing them is the most terrifying prospect of all (from their perspective) compared to the other things you listed.

I don't know about the past but today, the whole world depends on cryptography.
Yet, some people just decide to FUD Bitcoin as if Bitcoin is the only thing exposed to Quantum threat.
Because bitcoin is like a sweet slice of the pie, given that it has now become synonymous with wealth.

Let's think about it carefully, This is a Global Threat, it's never a Bitcoin only thing.
But that doesn't diminish the threat level on bitcoin in the slightest. Smiley

My question now is how many weak hands have panic sold and who is buying Bitcoin for the next leg up?
"Weak hands" sell at the first sign of panic. There is no point in worrying about them or keeping track of them; their losses are their own problem.

Who is buying? There is a saying: "There are two fools in the market - one who buys and one who sells". Smiley There will always be buyers, because even fears surrounding quantum computers aren't enough to scare everyone off.


They understand how to play the psychology of new investors. So maybe they are trying to take the opportunity to seek profit through cheaper purchases so they can accumulate more Bitcoin.
If the quantum threat is being widely discussed in the media, it is quite possible that this is being done to instill fear in investors (it is no secret that the media promote viewpoints advantageous to their owners and are neither impartial nor objective in their interpretation of events).

There are always two sides in trading: sellers and buyers, and there are always two predictions and two actions taken. It's just that they will have one mistake that could benefit someone else.
This is precisely a zero-sum game. In the market, there is always someone who loses.

Who will buy? Investors already understand the market conditions and the cycle of how Bitcoin moves.
Investors see the benefits (profit) that bitcoin offers for long-term ownership \ investment.

Don't worry, I think as long as there is still trust in Bitcoin, new buyers will always come.
So be it.

Institutions and various large companies have added additional confidence, so I think Bitcoin will still have a special value that may become increasingly difficult to predict. IMO
Predicting the dynamics of bitcoin has never been easy. In fact, I’d say it’s impossible. In all the years I’ve been watching this market - and despite the countless "experts" weighing in on the "future" of bitcoin, not a single one has actually been able to "see the future". To me, that’s the "beauty" of bitcoin: the impossibility of knowing which way the asset is "moving", as it retains an element of "surprise". After all, how boring would the crypto market be (and wouldn't everyone just become a millionaire?) if you could know for sure how the chart would move?

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October 11, 2026, 05:44:47 AM
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Vitalik Buterin came out to drop his own version of Fear Factory on Bitcoin investors.
I'm sorry I going to have to call it a FUD.

By the time quantum computer hits Bitcoin,

Health care, hospitals, transportation, security systems, banks and logistics would be the first victims of Quantum computer, they would have been hit long before Bitcoin gets touched.

I don't know about the past but today, the whole world depends on cryptography.
Yet, some people just decide to FUD Bitcoin as if Bitcoin is the only thing exposed to Quantum threat.

Let's think about it carefully, This is a Global Threat, it's never a Bitcoin only thing.

My question now is how many weak hands have panic sold and who is buying Bitcoin for the next leg up?


It sure doesn't feel like massive panic dumping to me. The threat of "quantum computers" on encryption on Bitcoin might already have been priced in.  In any case, always good to diversify (as always true).

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Indeed, the effects of quantum computers will not only attack BTC but will also affect other cryptocurrencies and banking systems. If I'm not mistaken, government data could also be hacked. However, the point is, this reminds us that we must remain cautious. Currently, if I'm not mistaken, several smart people have taken steps to protect us from the dangers posed by quantum computers

Indeed, this is a global threat, not just a threat directed at BTC. In my opinion, if something like you mean, where people are no longer interested in buying BTC, then I think that's the end of BTC If btc can be hacked and is unsafe, then that's definitely the end of BTC's days. The answer is, no one will buy BTC anymore, and its price will no longer rise. Many will certainly panic and sell BTC, but it's likely only people who don't know the news will buy BTC. However, in the end, no one will buy BTC, or not many will buy it. However, I hope BTC remains safe and its price continues to rise











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October 11, 2026, 12:07:45 PM
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Why should anything Vitalik says matter? Listening to someone who got rich by creating a centralized shitcoin for even the slightest advice about Bitcoin is stupid. He wrote an extremely long post that nobody is going to read and understand.

As for your question, the general public may not be buying Bitcoin but smart people who have access to this forum are continuing to invest. Global threat is FUD, don't worry about that much.

In my opinion, Vitalik Buterin is one of the smartest people in the cryptocurrency industry. He knows as much about Bitcoin as any of the Bitcoin Core developers. 🙋

Even the smartest people in the world can be wrong at times. Vitalik Buterin made that statement because he believes that if AI finds a way to attack the Bitcoin blockchain in the future, Ethereum won't be an exception. He said it out of fear, though the expression wasn't on his face at that time.

However, I won't take Vitalik seriously yet because the quantum thread has been the most discussed topic since it shows it can pose a threat. Nowadays, AI is leading the discussion. But I'm sure that before AI becomes a threat to the blockchain, an Anti-AI system will be made to fight against the attack. To every problem there is a solution.

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Why should anything Vitalik says matter? Listening to someone who got rich by creating a centralized shitcoin for even the slightest advice about Bitcoin is stupid. He wrote an extremely long post that nobody is going to read and understand.

As for your question, the general public may not be buying Bitcoin but smart people who have access to this forum are continuing to invest. Global threat is FUD, don't worry about that much.

In my opinion, Vitalik Buterin is one of the smartest people in the cryptocurrency industry. He knows as much about Bitcoin as any of the Bitcoin Core developers. 🙋

Even the smartest people in the world can be wrong at times. Vitalik Buterin made that statement because he believes that if AI finds a way to attack the Bitcoin blockchain in the future, Ethereum won't be an exception. He said it out of fear, though the expression wasn't on his face at that time.

However, I won't take Vitalik seriously yet because the quantum thread has been the most discussed topic since it shows it can pose a threat. Nowadays, AI is leading the discussion. But I'm sure that before AI becomes a threat to the blockchain, an Anti-AI system will be made to fight against the attack. To every problem there is a solution.

There's of course always going to be a solution to every innovation that threatens the long standing structure of other existing protocols, like we see how banks and government reacted to the emergence of Bitcoin by shunning it with policies and regulations and even made CEX an alternative to DEX so as to not harm the banking system and hide crypto currency market interactions.

So we can assume in light of things that if gold still exist, fiat still exist, definitely Bitcoin and other crypto currencies will continue to exist amidst any threat of AI or quantum computers. Afterall quantum computers are created for a purpose just like AI is and it is the purpose they would serve, any diviation from that would meet a counter innovation that is aimed to protect the already existing systems in place.
Am still going to accumulate and buy Bitcoin despite all this noise because I believe that's just what it is.

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My question now is how many weak hands have panic sold and who is buying Bitcoin for the next leg up?
I think bitcoin itself has not been attacked instead and I have not heard about it but if it was, you can orient me, and it is hardware wallets and centralized exchanges have been attacked which I have heard. Therefore if data are not leaked and no centralized exchanges in the crypto space, the attacks will drastically reduce. And foe those who are selling because of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt are those who are not well granted in the  crypto investment space and only came because people told them to do so or thinking to make good profit along the line and once they hear some stolen, attacks and lost stories about Bitcoin, they will be afraid to sell off their coins.

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Health care, hospitals, transportation, security systems, banks and logistics would be the first victims of Quantum computer, they would have been hit long before Bitcoin gets touched.
Yes, but it is easier for cloud platforms (which power most of these businesses and organizations) to migrate to post-quantum cryptography than for a public blockchain project. The problem on Bitcoin is that the space on the blockchain is limited, so you can't simply replace the signatures / public keys with 50x larger ones.

The AI problem Vitalik mentioned is  basically: "if ECDSA is unsafe, then AI can discover the vulnerability / attack earlier than humans." That still needs ECDSA being unsafe. If it is safe, no AI can attack it.

Vitalik's post mentions that perhaps ECDSA keys would have to be larger than now to be safe if a new way to compute keys is found, like it happened with RSA. But there is already a way to defend against that, now: just use a 2-of-2 multisig (to double the key size) or even 3-of-3 or 4-of-4 if you think doubling the key sizes is not enough. Of course you will have to pay more fees. But perhaps it is worth it for cold storage.

But anyway, the best way to defend against quantum and AI is simply not reusing addresses. It's really simple ... (and it's also what Justin Drake recommended ....).

who is buying Bitcoin for the next leg up?
Everybody who likes the long term trend in Bitcoin.

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This kind of threat is said to appear 5-15 years from now, so there's still enough time to think of advanced steps that will save our bitcoin. One of it is securing quantum-resistant signatures. It may not totally prevent us from quantum computer threat, but at least it can be controlled or minimized.

Simply put, we can still continue buying and holding bitcoin. Let the weak hands do their thing, but fuds are sometimes remain as fuds the whole time. This can be a trap for those weak hands, but this can be a challenging opportunity for those diamond hands.

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Indeed, it's a world problem and not only bitcoin but many likes to dress it up as if bitcoin is the only one affected, if I remember correctly we're also getting the same quantum fud when Google's willow was out which also co authored by the same people.

Whether it's truly a fud or not, it's up to you to judge, the thing is we already know such threat exist and expert have tried finding ways to avoid it, there has been several quantum computing related proposal. We're not just sitting and doing nothing.

In any case, there's something more important than harvesting bitcoin if quantum computing become practical.

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