Guys, isn't this harassment by AHOYBRAUSE?

[doggywin]

This is his trust feedback to me:

Harassment, blackmailing, messaging people on my trust list, also spreading misinformation and FUD. Gave him several chances to stop but this guy had it coming and enough is enough. NOT a scammer, but a forum cancer that brings no value to this community.

This proves my point, he shouldn't be in DT.

This feedback was long overdue and you messaging other people was basically the last thing to happen. I am sure many people would agree that your behavior is unacceptable, yet you think you can do whatever you want without consequences. News flash, that's not how it works. You still insisting I am lying, while everything can be seen here by everybody is just straight up hilarious. I mean unlike you, people can read and understand basic English. I feel sorry for them having to read your garbage actually.

Anyway, nothing else to say. You really begged for that one while I urged you to stop, yet you had to write more nonsense begging for it to escalate. You got what you wanted. Congratulations.

You have been lying so hard and repeating the lies.

Half your sentences are wrong. You don't even read. You take the scam accusation template I used to say that I wrote it.

"messaging people on my trust list" I messaged DT members who have you on their trust list.

Blackmail - You implied I will get negative trust if I continue
Harassment - Your language is harassment
Misinformation - You carefully edited screenshot to make me look like the bad guy. You lie that if I didn't clarify it would look like I sent you a dozen messages. When the reality is I messaged you, you replied, I replied, you replied.
brings no value to this community - My scam accusation against Betpanda that fixed a provably fair bug, might have costed players including our forum members, hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars.

Man, you don't belong in DT

[AHOYBRAUSE]

"messaging people on my trust list" I messaged DT members who have you on their trust list.

Oh buhu, that makes it better? Harassing other users makes the tag even more worth it

Blackmail - You implied I will get negative trust if I continue exactly what you are doing here

Kid, you gave me a red feedback first, for no reason.   And even then I didn't give you one yet. You deserve a red tag for what you did. And I waited many hours to do it and you didn't stop and even went further. At some point enough is enough and your tag is here to stay.

Harassment - Your language is harassment.

Nope, but your actions are, as well as your PMs.

Misinformation - You carefully edited screenshot to make me look like the bad guy. You lie that if I didn't clarify it would look like I sent you a dozen messages. When the reality is I messaged you, you replied, I replied, you replied.

Hilarious take. Just don't message me in the first place for no reason. "Carefully edited", haha. I simply showed the insult because that's what I was talking about and the rest is irrelevant

brings no value to this community - My scam accusation against Betpanda that fixed a provably fair bug, might have costed players including our forum members, hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars.

you achieved nothing, also betpanda has a questionable rep no matter what, just like winna and BC, garbage sites you deem good casinos, haha.

Man, you don't belong in DT

You don't belong behind a keyboard

Now farewell, enjoy your SCORAS money (if it ever comes). さよなら。

[doggywin]

Oh buhu, that makes it better? Harassing other users makes the tag even more worth it

Look up the meaning of harass. Your language is harrassment.

Kid, you gave me a red feedback first, for no reason.   And even then I didn't give you one yet. You deserve a red tag for what you did. And I waited many hours to do it and you didn't stop and even went further. At some point enough is enough and your tag is here to stay.

You received your red feedback after I received mine. As expected, a play with words. Again you give misinformation without directly lying.

I understood well that if I continue you will use it. That is blackmail. How did I supposedly blackmail you? With what? People here don't have the guts to question you. I do.

Hilarious take. Just don't message me in the first place for no reason. "Carefully edited", haha. I simply showed the insult because that's what I was talking about and the rest is irrelevant

You know what you are doing. It was not an insult. I was asking you are you pretending not to know what will happen afterwards?

You didn't answer the question.

you achieved nothing, also betpanda has a questionable rep no matter what, just like winna and BC, garbage sites you deem good casinos, haha.

Betpanda is legit. But using its sportsbook has risks. I received bug bounty from Betpanda. I also received appreciation from around six or seven players. I doubt you care about any of it. You can play on their original games and verify each and every roll.

I am not the first person to try, but I am the first person to succeed. The bug was there for over a year.

You carry sportsbet signature. You think its sportsbook is safe?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5593300.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5592098.0

I simply pointed out your hypocrisy, whining day by day that they are scamming you and once somebody simply shared their owners linkedin profile YOU called it doxxing and they should be given more time. What sense does this make??

This.

Why should I care about whether it makes sense to you? Why were you telling me what to do? Who TF do you think you are anyway?

[Joy- maker]

@doggywin you can't just open a thread requesting that a reputable member be removed from DT because you guys had some kind of disagreement or drama.  Mind you, I'm not taking sides, but there should be a valid reason for such a request, and you should provide a concrete evidence to support your claims rather than allowing personal differences to influence your judgement. You guys can settle this privately with each other, the insults and unnecessary drama won't solve anything, instead they will only make the situation worse.

[memehunter]

@doggywin you are a regular and knowledgeable gambler., I think I also interacted with you in many contests. You also have nice trust feedback from a reputed member for your honesty. But sorry to say you are the one who casted the first stone here for no reason (correct me if I am wrong). All you are feeling is just aftermath of your provocation, which snowballed.

You openly support doxxing and blackmail? Your account should be taken off DT

For me also this is not doxxing neither blackmail.
All you can do is distrust him personally if you feel so but there is no need to involve other members of his list, demanding explanation.
 

[nutildah]

Memehunter is right. You could have simply ignored AHOYBRAUSE when he gets inflammatory and carried on with your day. It does suck that you were scammed by SCORAS but you and he are on the same side here.

In response to your PM:

Everyone knows there is abuse within the system. There is abuse in every system. The main thing is it is usually corrected if it is too substantial. As a DT, I don't feel strongly one way or the other about your tag, although it would be good form for AHOYBRAUSE to consider removing it or downgrading it to a neutral.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Memehunter is right. You could have simply ignored AHOYBRAUSE when he gets inflammatory and carried on with your day. It does suck that you were scammed by SCORAS but you and he are on the same side here.

In response to your PM:

Everyone knows there is abuse within the system. There is abuse in every system. The main thing is it is usually corrected if it is too substantial. As a DT, I don't feel strongly one way or the other about your tag, although it would be good form for AHOYBRAUSE to consider removing it or downgrading it to a neutral.

Sorry, but I feel you didn't read 10% of what he did.

Also, I did not get "inflammatory" that really is nonsense. I simply called out his hypocrisy in the scoras thread, whining every day they owe him money and once somebody shared their owner's linked in he claimed it's doxxing. That was 1 single post which had solid grounds. In his reply he accused me of supporting doxxing, absolute nonsense. Then he went totally crazy and started a war for no reason, creating these threads, sending messages to people that have me on their trust list and so on.
For his insults, spreading lies and fud against me he doesn't deserve a neutral tag, it's supposed to be red. You don't name me in countless threads in a defamatory way (even mentioning my partner), nope.

Why should I consider removing it though? Did you read my arguments for it? You think it's ok to spread fud against me in 4 different threads (creating 2 of them himself), send messages to other people about me, send me messages in here and keep going? And don't forget, he gave me a red tag first for no reason, I have waited and he kept going and when I saw the message to other members situation it was time to take action.

I don't understand why anybody would think his actions are reasonable. I gave him several chances to stop, moved on, when I log in some hours later after coming home I saw he kept going and even went further.

By the way, I don't care about DT1, I have only been like 4 days and already it gives me trouble because this guy thinks I use it for whatever reason, which I never did or will.

[GxSTxV]

Knowing both of you as gamblers, I had to understand what’s happening, I guess the red tag is reasonable after all what Doggywin did. But at the same time this whole thing could been easily avoided, just if doggywin who was probably carried away by his emotions after feeling scammed, (maybe deep inside he knows the casino isn’t paying him).

To be honest, if I was in @AHOYBRAUSE’s place, I would probably do the same. However, I hope it’s not too late for him to rethink the tag if Doggywin is willing to apologize instead of questioning things like DT that has nothing to do with the whole story in first place. From my side, I can understand both of you, these kind of things can happen to any of us when emotions take over (especially as gamblers). I wish you can solve it in private, few nice words, invitation for a poker game or something else to turn off the negative energy here.

 Just my 5 cents. I hope things get sorted out and go north from here.

[doggywin]

Knowing both of you as gamblers, I had to understand what’s happening, I guess the red tag is reasonable after all what Doggywin did. But at the same time this whole thing could been easily avoided, just if doggywin who was probably carried away by his emotions after feeling scammed, (maybe deep inside he knows the casino isn’t paying him).

To be honest, if I was in @AHOYBRAUSE’s place, I would probably do the same. However, I hope it’s not too late for him to rethink the tag if Doggywin is willing to apologize instead of questioning things like DT that has nothing to do with the whole story in first place. From my side, I can understand both of you, these kind of things can happen to any of us when emotions take over (especially as gamblers). I wish you can solve it in private, few nice words, invitation for a poker game or something else to turn off the negative energy here.

 Just my 5 cents. I hope things get sorted out and go north from here.

Did you take the time to read everything? AHOYBRAUSE is a liar and misrepresents what happened, like how bullies explain to their mommies how they are the victim.

All the conversations between him and me are public, and if you read all of them in the order it happened, you will see AHOYBRAUSE is doing the harassment. He just wasn't expecting retaliation.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

All the conversations between him and me are public, and if you read all of them in the order it happened, you will see AHOYBRAUSE is doing the harassment. He just wasn't expecting retaliation.

Exactly, it's all public and everybody can see what a joke of a person you are. I mean, many people saw it already so you just make more "friends" posting this garbage. Now you gave me the 3rd red feedback after cowardly deleting the first 2 because you would think I would delete the one I gave you, not gonna happen. You just proved the point that you deserve the red trust, you can't even shut up days later about it. 

Your feedback is hilarious by the way, how did I get you banned for 3 days I wonder.  Am I a mod or something? By the way, if you indeed got banned, some higher up must have thought you deserved it, and hell yes you did. Even going on now with talking about me for no reason.
By the way, guess it's fair to say now that scoras scammed you, guess that's karma. I feel sorry for the other people but you had it coming.

Cute how you still run behind me, commenting on my posts and what not. Unemployed behavior.

[nutildah]

Sorry, but I feel you didn't read 10% of what he did.

Also, I did not get "inflammatory" that really is nonsense. I simply called out his hypocrisy in the scoras thread, whining every day.....

Dude who cares. You should just suck it up. You challenged him over something stupid, and he got upset about it, and then you tagged him over it. The whole thing is extremely petty.

[AB de Royse777]

You think it's ok to spread fud against me in 4 different threads (creating 2 of them himself), send messages to other people about me, send me messages in here and keep going? And don't forget, he gave me a red tag first for no reason, I have waited and he kept going and when I saw the message to other members situation it was time to take action.

DT status comes with responsibility. Comparing his feedback with your feedback makes no valid sense. I don't believe he has any possibility to be in DT in the near future. His feedback that you said to you, does not weight any value at all but your one should have a value. Besides I don't believe a DT member should trigger a red feedback to protect their personal interest unless there is a financial damage.

One can argue with me why I left Satofan44 a red feedback, because his fuds are directly related to massive financial damage. JollyGood and some other users are in the same category however I always like to give chances to established members to realize their wrongs. By the way, I have voluntarily recused myself from participating in DT1 voting, long ago by requesting theymos. So my position is also different than you. Hypothetically, I can be irresponsible if I want to.

He spreads fud against you - fair enough, you defend it with argument not with a red feedback. The worse case in such situations are to give a neutral feedback so that you can identify him in the future and you can use it as an evidence if you need to defend their fuds in any situation.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

He spreads fud against you - fair enough, you defend it with argument not with a red feedback. The worse case in such situations are to give a neutral feedback so that you can identify him in the future and you can use it as an evidence if you need to defend their fuds in any situation.

Respectfully, there is a difference between 1 time fud and dragging it for days through different threads and chasing me like a dog. Also, he has been advised to stop several times but only one ups it day by day inventing new bs, dragging other people into it and what not.
I did NOT reply with feedback, I tried to to let it go. But when i came back from sports I saw he went even further despite me not even replying, so and took action.

Just today he came back from his 3 day timeout and started again. You think that's normal?
A neutral feedback would bring nothing because he would think such behavior will get tolerated. Anyway, the red trust stays, whatever some people might think of it.
And as I had said before, I don't care about being DT, I never asked for it and got it some days ago. Yet this individual somehow thinks I have it forever now and now spun some narrative about it as well, yet again dragging my name through the mud which I at some point no longer tolerated.
If you play with fire expect to get burnt.

[doggywin]

He spreads fud against you - fair enough, you defend it with argument not with a red feedback. The worse case in such situations are to give a neutral feedback so that you can identify him in the future and you can use it as an evidence if you need to defend their fuds in any situation.

Respectfully, there is a difference between 1 time fud and dragging it for days through different threads and chasing me like a dog.

11 years ago, Quickseller was harassing tspacepilot on a daily basis. Quickseller was one of the most trusted members of the time. tspacepilot took him down https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.0

You have a family, you have loans. If I were you, I wouldn't be acting up like a 5 year old baby.

You started it. You know you are guilty.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

He spreads fud against you - fair enough, you defend it with argument not with a red feedback. The worse case in such situations are to give a neutral feedback so that you can identify him in the future and you can use it as an evidence if you need to defend their fuds in any situation.

Respectfully, there is a difference between 1 time fud and dragging it for days through different threads and chasing me like a dog.

11 years ago, Quickseller was harassing tspacepilot on a daily basis. Quickseller was one of the most trusted members of the time. tspacepilot took him down https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.0

You have a family, you have loans. If I were you, I wouldn't be acting up like a 5 year old baby.

So what you wanna say with this? Take of the red tag or else? hahaha. I take my chances, just out of curiosity. Your little witch hunt does not effect me in any way, and your hidden thread even less. You are a nobody to me, and you will never have any relevance in my life.

You are the guy harassing here, chasing me through some threads, giving some nonsense replies quoting me in threads that have nothing to do with you.

Oh by the way, you deleting your posts where you chase me around (like a dog) the forum to quote me and give useless replies, that doesn't bring anything. These posts are still all saved here  :

https://bitlist.co/search?author=doggywin&limit=20

[doggywin]

You are a nobody to me, and you will never have any relevance in my life.

You are giving me a lot of relevance, son. Over two dozen posts about me.

You are doing better than my wife

In Japan, do they give formal training for harassment or is it part of the English language training?

[AB de Royse777]

A neutral feedback would bring nothing because he would think such behavior will get tolerated.

Who cares what he think. The neutral feedback is the worst case scenario.

...so that you can identify him in the future and you can use it as an evidence if you need to defend their fuds in any situation.

You were not given DT responsibility to lecture others or impose your personal views through red feedback. The responsibility comes with the expectation of leading by example, maintaining standards, and handling situations constructively. Feedback should serve its intended purpose, not become a way to justify or normalize inappropriate behavior.

But anyway, may peace unite us all, beyond our differences.