Forum financial update

[Ashawowo(OS)]

Based on the question asked by Superbitman a while ago, I believe it would be wise to bring together forum annual financial records in one place for easier perusing by anyone concerned. So the main aim is to organize all into one thread instead of the way it was distributed across many threads.

I would be updating the OP annually if theymos releases the report, also this thread would be used to remind him of the updates.

2011 - 2013

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Income
      Donations     Ads
2011       3081    1545
2012      13291   21014
2013      42174  243233

Expenses
      Infrastructure  Development   Mods  Grants    Tax
2011             213            0      0       0    109
2012              11          276      0       0   3973
2013             194       185751  81027    2802  15841

2014

2014 is as follows:

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Income:
	Donations: $114.78
	Ads: $419,671.12
Expenses:
	Fees & services: $10,886.03
	Forum software project: $1,151,595.23
	Other contractors: $39,297.05
	Mod payments: $104,575.79
	Bounties: $505.30

2015 - 2016

Here are approximate numbers.

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2015:
Income: About $144,000
Expenses - Forum software project: $849,400
Expenses - Mods and others: About $104,000

2016:
Income: About $178,000
Expenses - Forum software project: $36,260
Expenses - Mods and others: About $85,000
Expenses - Hosting etc: About $27,000

2017 - 2018

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2017
Income: $996,494 + $6257 donations
Expenses - Forum software project: $246,138
Expenses - Mods and others: $261,433
Expenses - Hosting etc: $49,726

2018
Income: $473,247 + $479 donations
Expenses - Forum software project: $272,250
Expenses - Mods and others: $204,547
Expenses - Hosting etc: $43,907

2025

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Numbers in thousands of USD

Income 10

Expenses 420
    Moderators 167
    Other contractors 92
        Security bounties 10 *
    Tax 79
    Hosting 59
    Other 23

(* The largest bounty awarded in 2025 was $1500.)

Forum address balances

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I was unable to locate 2019 to 2024, if you have the details, please point me to it so I can update the OP.
If you have any suggestion to improve its presentation, please mention it.

[Comeacross]

If you have any suggestion to improve its presentation, please mention it.

I believe theymos will have a pin thread for this topic if it was really necessary.

Unless you consult him and he gives a green light, this thread remain unproductive since it relies on him giving updates.

But I'm curious why the sudden discussion about the forum financial updates. Is someone suspicious of anything? 

[notocactus]

But I'm curious why the sudden discussion about the forum financial updates. Is someone suspicious of anything? 

For merit.

[Ashawowo(OS)]

If you have any suggestion to improve its presentation, please mention it.

I believe theymos will have a pin thread for this topic if it was really necessary.

theymos is not a MR KNOW IT ALL and maybe he hasn't thought of bringing them all together earlier, just maybe. Someone might want to access them and this is me saving them the stress of a long search.

Unless you consult him and he gives a green light, this thread remain unproductive since it relies on him giving updates.

Unproductive to you, productive to someone else, that's why not only you exist here sir

But I'm curious why the sudden discussion about the forum financial updates. Is someone suspicious of anything? 

The purpose of this thread is simple, assembling all financial reports in a single thread and making it look more organized and easier to locate, I don't think organizing things is an act of suspicion. Financial records is an important part of any organization and community activity. I believe theymos knows its importance and that's why he gives them when requested, neither do I think it is bad putting them all in a place.

[Mia Chloe]

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Thumbs up for the data. Personally I don't really find it very important yet however that doesn't necessarily make it unimportant regardless. Unless you are pretty sure Theymos will keep giving updates I think it would have been better if you had made this as a reply in the original thread.

The purpose of this thread is simple, assembling all financial reports in a single thread and making it look more organized and easier to locate, I don't think organizing things is an act of suspicion. Financial records is an important part of any organization and community activity. I believe theymos knows its importance and that's why he gives them when requested, neither do I think it is bad putting them all in a place.

Yeah yeah but it's subjective to the use case actually. If Theymos doesn't give continuous updates after this then he and the admins probably want it to stay confidential actually.

[Dunamisx]

Threads like this are very sensitive and could spark reactions. Before creating it, have you contacted theymos first?

Maybe there's no need for all of these since the updates were already referenced on the forum, except that he granted permission to do this in case there is a need for more clarification or updates.

[Churchillvv]

Threads like this are very sensitive and could spark reactions. Before creating it, have you contacted theymos first?

Of course they could and probably will but they already exist without assembling, so the assembling is the problem as you think of it.

However there is no need for admin to update us the ordinary people of the forum, firstly we don’t have any connection to the public funds apart from participating in the forum.
Donors are not asking and there is no suspicion of mismanagement of funds.

[bitmover]

Threads like this are very sensitive and could spark reactions. Before creating it, have you contacted theymos first?

Maybe there's no need for all of these since the updates were already referenced on the forum, except that he granted permission to do this in case there is a need for more clarification or updates.

All data is publicly available and posted in an open forum by theymos himself.

[JollyGood]

Based on the question asked by Superbitman a while ago, I believe it would be wise to bring together forum annual financial records in one place for easier perusing by anyone concerned. So the main aim is to organize all into one thread instead of the way it was distributed across many threads.

I am surprised the data was not already collated in a single thread. having said that, maybe using the BTC value at the time of payment would help those that prefer to know in Bitcoin rather than USD$.

Threads like this are very sensitive and could spark reactions. Before creating it, have you contacted theymos first?

Maybe there's no need for all of these since the updates were already referenced on the forum, except that he granted permission to do this in case there is a need for more clarification or updates.

Since your signature ban, you have made less and less posts than before the signature ban was put on your Dunamisx account. I looked through some of your post history and noted you have made 20+ posts in around a single day. You have most recently made 20 posts in 16 days.

I have seen a consistent pattern of low quality posts from you for a several years. I have no idea how many accounts you are operating but keeping that aside, I am glad nutildah managed to put a signature ban on at least one of your accounts.

[alani123]

But I'm curious why the sudden discussion about the forum financial updates. Is someone suspicious of anything? 

For merit.

And I don't see why not?
If merit incentivizes new users to do some digging and gather useful information, so be it. It's a good thing. OP deserves a little bit of merit. Maybe not a huge amount but that's the essence of merit. You can choose to send even 1. So if you learned something, if someone put effort, if the post was useful... Might as well.

The finances of this forum are something of public interest and worthy of discussion indeed. It's a forum we all use and it was publicly funded through donations. Frankly speaking, the last few years there's no reporting of any financial activity. We know there's no significant income other than BTC appreciation, but what about the expenses?