Let's get the facts straight about Apple.

[SolarGalaxa]

I've seen some posts (here & on reddit) which bash Apple for their Bitcoin app ban. Firstly, Apple has not banned Bitcoin. If they did, then why are "read-only" Bitcoin apps still allowed? That has no logic in it at all. Secondly, according to the Developer Guidelines, the app's content and/or service(s) must be legal everywhere the App Store serves apps. Thus:

1) Bitcoin has shady legal status in several overseas countries. India has declared Bitcoin an Ponzi scheme (yeah, right!), and others have outright banned Bitcoin. Thus, if Apple were to offer these apps in those countries, then because Apple is the world's most valuable billion dollar company category and thus, the largest then those governments have the opportunity to sue Apple.

2) The reason why Blockchain was removed is because Blockchain updated the app and provided false screen shots. Providing screen shots that do not match the app itself is against the Developer Guidelines. Another violation of the guidelines is the fact that the Blockchain's app description made no mention of the sending and receiving Bitcoin.

In conclusion, Apple is just protecting their collectively large asses from money hungry governments.

[Swordsoffreedom]

1) Closed Ecosystem
2) They didn't allow the Blockchain app on purpose it doesn't do anything but have a QR code to a Bitcoin Wallet through blockchain
3) Read only apps are work-arounds made by the community to help the apple user who want to use Bitcoin
4) Apple wants to maintain its monopoly 30% revenue share from the App store and does not see Bitcoin giving it a share of the cut

In conclusion Apple is just protecting its monopoly status and does not give a damn about the end user especially after Jobs died.

But I'll link to another thread to back me up
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559611.msg6100672#msg6100672

[SolarGalaxa]

1) Closed Ecosystem
2) They didn't allow the Blockchain app on purpose it doesn't do anything but have a QR code to download a Bitcoin Wallet
3) Read only apps are work-arounds made by the community to help apple user who want to use Bitcoin
4) Apple wants to maintain its monopoly 30% revenue share from the App store and does not see Bitcoin giving it a share of the cut

In conclusion Apple is just protecting its monopoly status and does not give a damn about the end user especially after Jobs died.

1) I agree.
2) So, they let this app slide by for two years and 100k+ downloads. Yeah, right.
3) So, if I develop a reader service, I'm creating a "work-around" even thought that's not my original intention?
4) Does Apple get a 30% cut from the PayPal API? Nope.

I do NOT agree with your conclusion. If Apple wanted to protect it's monopoly status, then why allow the PayPal API?

I would argue that it's actually easier for end users to use iTunes for IAP and not have to worry about their purchases becoming "lost" or damaged. I certainly find it easier not having to worry about all the stuff that could go wrong with 'independent' in-app-purchase systems.

[Swordsoffreedom]

1) Closed Ecosystem
2) They didn't allow the Blockchain app on purpose it doesn't do anything but have a QR code to download a Bitcoin Wallet
3) Read only apps are work-arounds made by the community to help apple user who want to use Bitcoin
4) Apple wants to maintain its monopoly 30% revenue share from the App store and does not see Bitcoin giving it a share of the cut

In conclusion Apple is just protecting its monopoly status and does not give a damn about the end user especially after Jobs died.

1) I agree.
2) So, they let this app slide by for two years and 100k+ downloads. Yeah, right.
3) So, if I develop a reader service, I'm creating a "work-around" even thought that's not my original intention?
4) Does Apple get a 30% cut from the PayPal API? Nope.

I do NOT agree with your conclusion. If Apple wanted to protect it's monopoly status, then why allow the PayPal API? I would argue that it's easier for end users to just use iTunes for IAP and not have to worry about their purchases becoming "lost" or damaged. I certainly find it easier not having to worry about all that stuff.

2) Bitcoin simply put did not get much attention until recently so its possible they were unaware of it hard to tell
3) Not necessarily if you read the other thread you can see what I meant by that  its from the coindesk article more or less
http://www.coindesk.com/unofficial-apple-ios-store-to-allow-bitcoin-wallet-apps/
4) Incorrect they do get a cut just not directly
While consumers can send payments to each other and link PayPal to fund their iTunes account, developers selling in the App Store are forbidden in accepting PayPal directly due to Apple’s 30% cut.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/06/13/why-apple-is-afraid-of-bitcoin/

Full Part:
PayPal is a unique and interesting exception. Having been in the App Store since the very beginning, PayPal has the volume and clout to the point of where rejecting it would harm Apple more than PayPal. Also, PayPal holds consumer accounts and processes only national currencies so they are more like a bank and card company combined. However, Apple still hugely regulates what can be done via PayPal. While consumers can send payments to each other and link PayPal to fund their iTunes account, developers selling in the App Store are forbidden in accepting PayPal directly due to Apple’s 30% cut.

So back to my original conclusion
Apple is just protecting its monopoly status and does not give a damn about the end user especially after Jobs died.

[Bitcoin Magazine]

maybe they know of a better coin (AppleCoin) and don't want people to lose any more money in BTCitcoin

[bitpop]

Fuck you and Fuck Apple. Fuck off.

[SolarGalaxa]

Well, I was right

This "community" is one-sided when it comes to cold, hard, facts. Farewell, one-sided Bitcoin community, it's been nice knowing ya.

Fuck you and Fuck Apple. Fuck off.

When you get sued for something, I'll just root for the suer How's that for a "Fuck You Back"?

[bitpop]

Bye shill

[Swordsoffreedom]

Well, I was right

This "community" is one-sided when it comes to cold, hard, facts. Farewell, one-sided Bitcoin community, it's been nice knowing ya.

Fuck you and Fuck Apple. Fuck off.

When you get sued for something, I'll just root for the suer How's that for a "Fuck You Back"?

What facts all you did was give a one sided opinion that I pretty clearly proved incorrect
Farewell

[Bit_Happy]

Apple is evil?

At best they do not allow their users enough privacy.

[iraszl]

Earlier I argued that Apple doesn't allow Bitcoin sending because they are preparing their own payment system and it would be a competition to them.

But now I think the reason is security. If people had fat bitcoin wallets on their iPhones it would paint a giant red target on Apple's back. They don't want to be on the front page of newspapers with people complaining they lost $10K worth of bitcoins due to an iOS vulnerability.

[ArticMine]

I've seen some posts (here & on reddit) which bash Apple for their Bitcoin app ban. Firstly, Apple has not banned Bitcoin. If they did, then why are "read-only" Bitcoin apps still allowed? That has no logic in it at all. Secondly, according to the Developer Guidelines, the app's content and/or service(s) must be legal everywhere the App Store serves apps. Thus:

1) Bitcoin has shady legal status in several overseas countries. India has declared Bitcoin an Ponzi scheme (yeah, right!), and others have outright banned Bitcoin. Thus, if Apple were to offer these apps in those countries, then because Apple is the world's most valuable billion dollar company category and thus, the largest then those governments have the opportunity to sue Apple.

2) The reason why Blockchain was removed is because Blockchain updated the app and provided false screen shots. Providing screen shots that do not match the app itself is against the Developer Guidelines. Another violation of the guidelines is the fact that the Blockchain's app description made no mention of the sending and receiving Bitcoin.

In conclusion, Apple is just protecting their collectively large asses from money hungry governments.

As someone who has been bashing Apple on these forums for over two years, and on other forums before Bitcoin even existed, I consider that this post deserves a proper reply rather than just an f bomb directed at the OP and Apple.

The first issue to realize is that Apple's business model for IOS is based upon censorship and oppression. This is because in order to collect rents form the works of others Apple must tightly control how an IOS device is used. What is so fundamentally wrong here is that Apple uses DRM to prevent an app from a store other than their own from being installed on IOS devices. This is fundamentally no different from a furniture manufacturer dictating to someone who purchases a bookcase that all books to be placed on said bookcase must come from a book store the manufacturer owns.

The net effect of the above is to turn the normal polices that a store would use to determine where or not to stock an item into a tool for censorship and oppression. The polices of the store become irrelevant. Apple is always in the wrong regardless of what the polices of their store say.

To understand this issue better let use look at the issue of legality. One the surface saying that a store only sells items that are legal in all the jurisdictions they do business is a perfectly reasonable policy; however when it is combined with the DRM above it serves to greatly magnify any censorship or oppression a government may apply by extending that same censorship or oppression across the world. So for example if the government of China decides to suppress and censor the teachings of the Dalai Lama Apple will then by their policy extend that suppression and censorship to countries like The United Sates, Canada, Western Europe etc. One the flip side an app say depicting deaths by US drones, and this displeases the US government, Apple will now extend the censorship to say China, or the Middle East etc.

Now when it comes to Bitcoin, I see the censorship of Bitcoin by Apple in many ways as a blessing in disguise. Apple will not be able to stop Bitcoin, but what will most likely happen is that as a result of Apple's censorship of Bitcoin, Bitcoin will bring down Apple's IOS business model resulting in a major contribution by Bitcoin to freedom and liberty around the world.

[casinocoin]

Apple will turn it's head and either adopt or create.
They're simply..Not ready yet, and have a thousand other things in line before this.

I would love to be able to purchase apps with Bitcoin, and would accept them in seconds, but this would also call for all developers to accept BTC or Apple would be in the dilema of exchanging the bitcoin to fiat to pay developers etc etc.

[HCLivess]

Apple? APPLE? They don't allow me to pick a 2$ cable to charge my iPhone, instead I have to buy one for 30$.
I hope these slavemongers appoint Karlepes for CEO

[hodlmybtc]

Fuck Apple and their overpriced products

[Bit_Happy]

Apple? APPLE? They don't allow me to pick a 2$ cable to charge my iPhone, instead I have to buy one for 30$.
I hope these slavemongers appoint Karlepes for CEO

Are you going to be buying another iPhone in the future or changing brands?

[crunchynut]

i like apple. it's all so convenient and fast. of course, if i was poor and couldn't afford all this convenient, good looking tech-shizzle i would have a different opinion which i would express in an internet forum using long sentences and bold formatting. that's what poor people do.

[Satosh¡ Slot]

Well, I was right

This "community" is one-sided when it comes to cold, hard, facts. Farewell, one-sided Bitcoin community, it's been nice knowing ya.

I don't mind facts. Sure, Apple has a reason for removing Bitcoin apps and it can be explained. So what?

The fact is that it's best to stay away from Apple, no matter how their behaviour is explained, it's still a fact.

[MessyCoin]

Was a long time iPhone user but just purchased an android phone today. Because whatever Apple's reasons for removing Bitcoin wallet apps, they are legal in many jurisdictions - so I feel strongly that I should be allowed to install them without "jailbreaking" my phone. And for a long time I've also disliked Apple's removal of educational programming apps, emulators, etc which they don't allow on their appstore either. I don't think they are doing it to protect their asses from govt but just purely in selfish interest. The Bitcoin issue was the last straw that made me decide to leave Apple's ecosystem. Although I don't like Google's approach to world domination either, there sadly doesn't seem to be much choice these days. I'm looking forward to the Ubuntu phone or just more "opensourceness" of phones in general.

Perhaps Apple could solve this by allowing other competing appstores, but we all know the chances of them ever doing that are next to none.

[SmithsonJim]

Apple company policies affect our decisions way too much. It is even a bit sad that android is more liberal here.