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December 02, 2023, 09:43:01 PM
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Yes, there have been users that have successfully changed their names and granted their request. So if it's already requested to theymos, well, it really takes time IIRC because I've read it before that there's no timeframe when it shall be granted. And you know with stuff that with issues these days, it might really take time. Btw, thanks for your response.
He seems pretty reluctant to grant them that wish. If he wanted, I think he would have done it by now, since OP had a genuine reason for the name change. They even gave them back control of the old account, but it has no activity.

I just hope that someone malicious just doesn't go and register the eXch.cx name and maybe even try to impersonate.
That's what I am thinking because it was an honest mistake when I did visited their link through the username and saw that porkbun website.

The first request we sent to him asking to change our username was ignored.

The second request to unlock an inactive account (eXch) was granted, but it seems to me that it happened only due to icopress's close involvement to this question.
Hopefully, it goes well to you guys because someone just like me might not look at the signature and think that it's the same as the username's to just copy and paste the link but the good side of it is it contains nothing.

There are still ongoing attempts to get that domain back though.
It's nice to get that back and can serve as a mirror of your website.

 
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December 04, 2023, 08:08:16 PM
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Also I have my own reasons to believe that account belongs to the actual agency, taking into consideration the same cybercrime investigation team behind that arrest not only works for FIOD, but also Dutch police [...]

therefore it wouldn't surprise me at all if FIODNederland is legit.

I waited a bit before making this reply, as I wanted to see how things develop. And the way they develop is scary. That account seems legit, indeed. It's not only you believing that, nor only me, but many other users, including some high forum officials. It still baffles me why they felt the need to troll Sinbad by creating that design which was similar to the images used by Sinbad in their topics. Did they hire a designer to craft them that image? Lol! It's ridiculous that they also wanted to be funny.

We need to brace ourselves! The government is coming and that old topic of mine, written 4 years ago, shows a reality which surrounds us more and more.

And the recent decision of banning mixers only proves that. We are on a forum which had free speech as its main goal, yet authorities show once again that is they put some pressure things can change for their benefit. I see more and more eXch as a sort of "last man standing" in this continuous struggle of preserving people's privacy. In a way, if I may, continuing Cypherpunks' work.



The second request to unlock an inactive account (eXch) was granted, but it seems to me that it happened only due to icopress's close involvement to this question.

This is really good news! I am glad to see you recovered your account!

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December 04, 2023, 09:02:17 PM
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We are planning to start a new topic in the Exchanges section (since we are a cryptocurrency exchange by a definition) by the end of this month using that brand new account.
Good decision to start fresh, and best to lock this topic when you make the final transition.
My suggestion is to create new account without any extension, just make eXch or eXch_exchange if any of this user names are available.

PS
Can you tell me more about eXch mobile app?
I saw that it's open source and available on Fdroid, but I am not sue how safe it is, since it's community made project.



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December 05, 2023, 06:00:09 AM
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It still baffles me why they felt the need to troll Sinbad by creating that design which was similar to the images used by Sinbad in their topics. Did they hire a designer to craft them that image? Lol! It's ridiculous that they also wanted to be funny.

If you noticed in chipmixer, they modified the logo for a hand that cleaning the logo like saying this service was mixing the dirty stuff, so it looks like they have a designer trying to add such details.

We need to brace ourselves! The government is coming and that old topic of mine, written 4 years ago, shows a reality which surrounds us more and more.

I do not think so. In the report about chipmixer, they mentioned detailed information about the service and mentioned the forum, but the information that the forum cooperated with them was not mentioned, and since they had reached out to the person who runs the site, they did not care about who was promoting the service.

In the case of Sinbad, it appears that the entity is a group of hackers funded by a government or organization, so they were not able to do much, especially since the service is a renaming of a previous mixing service that was operating on the forum.

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December 05, 2023, 09:17:00 AM
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In the case of Sinbad, it appears that the entity is a group of hackers funded by a government or organization, so they were not able to do much, especially since the service is a renaming of a previous mixing service that was operating on the forum.

Let me see if I understand well what you meant: are you saying that FIODNederland is a group of hackers? Not a user created by Dutch authorities?

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December 05, 2023, 10:06:31 AM
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In the case of Sinbad, it appears that the entity is a group of hackers funded by a government or organization, so they were not able to do much, especially since the service is a renaming of a previous mixing service that was operating on the forum.
Let me see if I understand well what you meant: are you saying that FIODNederland is a group of hackers? Not a user created by Dutch authorities?
No, he's saying Sinbad appears to be government funded. And it's not the Dutch government Wink

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December 05, 2023, 01:07:42 PM
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In the case of Sinbad, it appears that the entity is a group of hackers funded by a government or organization, so they were not able to do much, especially since the service is a renaming of a previous mixing service that was operating on the forum.
Let me see if I understand well what you meant: are you saying that FIODNederland is a group of hackers? Not a user created by Dutch authorities?
No, he's saying Sinbad appears to be government funded. And it's not the Dutch government Wink

I can't be positive its not but I don't think the US government would do that as it would be considered entrapment. Its true that they (US + Netherlands) briefly took over Hansa market after AlphaBay was shut down - perhaps the most famous of all bitcoin/darknet "honeypots" - but they only used evidence gathered to prosecute vendors on the market who were already active.

By setting up a brand new site and enticing users who may not have otherwise wanted to mix their coin, the feds run afoul of entrapment... certain arrests wouldn't hold up in court, and thus it would be a waste of money/resources.

Who knows for sure though, anything's possible, and I'm no legal expert.

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December 05, 2023, 01:59:09 PM
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Its true that they (US + Netherlands) briefly took over Hansa market after AlphaBay was shut down - perhaps the most famous of all bitcoin/darknet "honeypots" - but they only used evidence gathered to prosecute vendors on the market who were already active..
I have seen this happen when it made rounds on the news that an IRS agent had posed a crypto vendor on the Localcryptos marketplace just to collect evidence from some guy they had been tracking down for some time. It was an interesting case.  Cheesy

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Service announcement: eXch Android app is there!

We are glad to announce the release of our fully open-source app for Android on the F-Droid main repository.

This is in fact the first app ever included into the F-Droid main repository that permits swapping cryptocurrencies.

Automatic reproducible builds permit making sure the build you run on your phone from F-Droid was compiled from the source code of the current release at Github: https://github.com/pitonite/exch_cx

While we call it a communnity app, this app was developed under official supervision of IT security specialists from eXch to ensure it corresponds to high standards in security.

Main features:

- Switching between our clearnet and Tor domains
- Custom native SOCKS5 proxy support for both clearnet and Tor domains (set to 127.0.0.1:9050 by default which is one provided by the Tor-enabling app called OrBot)
- HTTPS support and TLS fingerprint verification (both SHA256 and SHA1) for our .onion
- Written using the same framework as the official F-Droid app with minimal library dependency chain
- Ability to import orders created externally
- Ability to keep the orders history (including letters of guarantee)
- In-order support chat
- Supports most of the features available via website and API
- Fully open-source

You can support the main dev by donating:
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What surprised me, is there is no fixed "fee per transaction". It looks like the 1% or 0.5% fee is really everything, which matters a lot on small transactions. The minimum amount is 0.0001BTC, and much lower in value for altcoins. I haven't tried a large amount, as it was only for testing and I don't really need to exchange coins at the moment.

Have you confirmed that the fee rate is variable between 0.5% and 1%? There is no fee rate info on the website and I'm trying to collect this data.

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December 11, 2023, 08:11:53 AM
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Have you confirmed that the fee rate is variable between 0.5% and 1%? There is no fee rate info on the website
Click the Calculate button, you'll see the 1% or 0.5% rates.

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Service announcement: eXch Android app is there!
New app looks very good, but I think eXch should also work fine if used with Tor mobile browser.
Is there some shortage of xmr at the moment?

Have you confirmed that the fee rate is variable between 0.5% and 1%? There is no fee rate info on the website and I'm trying to collect this data.
From my own testing and usage I can say that Dynamic rate is much better, not only because of percentage, but in cases where transaction fees are higher and  exchange happens later than usual.

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I just made a transaction, I am quite satisfied with the whole process. Maybe I'll write a complete review somewhere.
What confuses me is entering the Refund address, which is not mandatory, but can be added later. However, during the process, I did not have the opportunity to enter it afterwards. Did I overlook it and why is it not mandatory? If a refund of the address was required, would I have to request a refund from support and what does that process look like?

I admit that the explanation on the website is not the most specific.
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I always thought that Refund addresses were used only when exchanging XMR.

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I always thought that Refund addresses were used only when exchanging XMR.

You may be right, I was converting from Bitcoin to Litecoin. Even so, this part of the process Bitcoin Refund address is not the most clear to me.

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What confuses me is entering the Refund address, which is not mandatory, but can be added later. However, during the process, I did not have the opportunity to enter it afterwards. Did I overlook it and why is it not mandatory? If a refund of the address was required, would I have to request a refund from support and what does that process look like?
If you did not include a refund address during the transaction process and there is a need for eXch to refund you, it would be sent to the address that you used to deposit the funds. In other words, if you fail to include a refund address, your deposit address becomes your refund address.

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 #217

[...]
What confuses me is entering the Refund address, which is not mandatory, but can be added later. However, during the process, I did not have the opportunity to enter it afterwards. Did I overlook it and why is it not mandatory? If a refund of the address was required, would I have to request a refund from support and what does that process look like?
[...]

The way it's designed is just a question of convenience and flexibility.

I will try to describe how it works in full in this brief FAQ:


How it works?

If you don't provide a refund address during the order creation process, you will be able to provide it later *if* and *when* it's needed.

The posterior refund address insertion can be only made when the page asks for it and it's a fully automatic process that doesn't require an operator intervention.


When a refund may be required?

A refund request state can be triggered in some situations such as:

a) your deposit took too much time to confirm and the amount you planned to receive was sent to some order that was quicker and drained the necessary reserve required by your order, since our system does not reserve output amounts in the "CONFIRMING INPUT" state for coins that may take a lot of time to confirm and are prone to double-spending *
b) your BTCLN invoice is unpayable
c) race condition with other order(s) that took your planned amount of reserve at the same time *
d) a node/wallet responsible for payout suddenly crashed or is not responsive *
 
and any other unforeseen situations.

* refund is optional in these cases and offered to a user in-order, since under these circumstances the order will turn into a backorder and await for a necessary reserves to be executed


Why is it optional during the order creation?

Some users prefer not to bother providing the refund address during the address creation, since mostly it's not required. Doing this extra step for providing a refund address during the order creation is viewed as time-consuming for some people. This is however their responsibility to keep their order's URL in secret and monitor the order to avoid a scenario when someone who they shared the order ID with would take a refund on their behalf, since any refund address can be entered if it wasn't defined during the order creation process.

Some users don't mind taking all the steps to fill all the fields during the order creation, which is a most safe mode of creating an order.

Every user has its individual views on the order creation process, therefore we try to cover all possible situations.

I always thought that Refund addresses were used only when exchanging XMR.

A refund can be provided for any currency.

What confuses me is entering the Refund address, which is not mandatory, but can be added later. However, during the process, I did not have the opportunity to enter it afterwards. Did I overlook it and why is it not mandatory? If a refund of the address was required, would I have to request a refund from support and what does that process look like?
If you did not include a refund address during the transaction process and there is a need for eXch to refund you, it would be sent to the address that you used to deposit the funds. In other words, if you fail to include a refund address, your deposit address becomes your refund address.

Your answer is mostly correct, except we do not detect origin addresses but instead offer a user to input it by themselves. However what you said still can be done under some marginal circumstances when a user needs to be refunded but we do not have any refund address on file and the user is not reachable for a long time, which in a such case would be a manual refund operation (except for Monero and LN deposits).

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Is there some shortage of xmr at the moment?
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Yes, there was for some days due to the amount of backorders totalling over 8000 XMR

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Yesterday i translated exch ANN into Russian local board but it was deleted.. No idea why
Of course i left every single link and mentioned that this is only translate.
Perhaps because I did not coordinate with you, but I apologize in advance.
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We are very grateful to you that you have spent some time translating our topic to Russian, since a Russian translation is a very important asset that was lacking over there for a long time.

However we have no information on why your topic was deleted. Perhaps this should be addressed to moderators of the local board you have posted it in.

EDIT:

Turned out there is a whole thread in the Russian local board existing for some time already: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464590

Special thanks to safar1980, klarki, Symmetrick and others for active participation in that thread. We have a very large russian-speaking audience across our customers and this is for sure a very valuable asset on this forum. Added it to the original post.

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Yesterday i translated exch ANN into Russian local board but it was deleted.. No idea why
Of course i left every single link and mentioned that this is only translate.
Perhaps because I did not coordinate with you, but I apologize in advance.
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Talking about translations, I noticed that the French section didn't have a translation of this ANN.

This has now been done, and I hope that French-speaking users will be interested  Cheesy

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Yesterday i translated exch ANN into Russian local board but it was deleted[...]

This is very curious... I can't find this guy's post. Apparently it was also deleted Oo I any case, I also believe that his translation was deleting for being duplicate.

Talking about translations, I noticed that the French section didn't have a translation of this ANN.

This has now been done

Great job, paid2! Let's hope that your translation will be added soon to OP!
Now OP is translated in 6 foreign languages!



Service announcement: eXch Android app is there!

Do you intend to try to submit the app to Google Play as well?

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When a refund may be required?

A refund request state can be triggered in some situations such as:

a) your deposit took too much time to confirm and the amount you planned to receive was sent to some order that was quicker and drained the necessary reserve required by your order, since our system does not reserve output amounts in the "CONFIRMING INPUT" state for coins that may take a lot of time to confirm and are prone to double-spending *
b) your BTCLN invoice is unpayable
c) race condition with other order(s) that took your planned amount of reserve at the same time *
d) a node/wallet responsible for payout suddenly crashed or is not responsive *
I was hoping that you would add another possibility, which I consider to be a possibility, especially for less experienced users, which relates to transactions that occur by mistake. This means, for example, that he uses the Ethereum deposit address and deposits a token on it. These incidents are often repeated, and platform systems exempt themselves from responsibility, and it is not possible to blame them for abandoning assistance to one of their customers, especially since this possibility of error is mentioned in the terms of use.

Why is it optional during the order creation?

Some users prefer not to bother providing the refund address during the address creation, since mostly it's not required. Doing this extra step for providing a refund address during the order creation is viewed as time-consuming for some people. This is however their responsibility to keep their order's URL in secret and monitor the order to avoid a scenario when someone who they shared the order ID with would take a refund on their behalf, since any refund address can be entered if it wasn't defined during the order creation process.
I expect that experienced members do not care about filling all the fields because it is always obvious that the refund address is the same address from which the deposit was made. But the matter becomes more dangerous with less experienced customers, since a large percentage of them make deposits directly from other platforms, that is, from one of the addresses of that platform and not from a personal address.

 
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