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May 12, 2014, 06:50:50 PM
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You can now trade YellowCoin on ICURREX.com! Join the world's fastest, most innovative, crypto currency trading exchange.

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Thanks ICURREX.COM!!!

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May 12, 2014, 06:54:55 PM
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Hi guys,

Sorry for the long post and to those with less patience Grin.

I'm a yellowcoin fan (so there is no doubt about it later). I'm more the reader than the writer so i just read all the comments and take my conclusions while laughing (or should it be crying ?! Cheesy) at some comments..

Anyway, I cannot make sense of the maths that's in here, so just wanna share to you my thoughts and asking if anyone can help clarifying or make sense to what is happening.

So assuming the 10% POS for 10 days we have more 10% * 10%... = 1.1 * 1.1 = 1.1^10 = 2,593742460100002.

Let's just consider my two first transactions, 23549.185 and 988.232894, total 24537,417894 YC.

Let's forget the ~9200 on other transactions and mining and ~5500 lost on orphan blocks that did not recover.

so 24537,417894 * 2,593742460100002 = 63643,742652885370104 YC Which is more than the total i currently have on my wallet ~62000 YC.

So what's wrong here? I should have a total of 80500 YC in my wallet but i have 20000 YC less.

This equals 25% of all the YC i should have.. missing.

I do like YellowCoin and i understand things can have problems and that that takes time.. but it must work.. and staking is not working properly.. you can say it's working, good.. but have all of you made the maths with your wallets and check the theoretical total balance?
Working. not as expected.. staking, but not 10%, at least to me.. it seems more like 7.5%..

Just wanted to understand what's going on here and where's my 20000 YC.. that's a big amount of them, for me at least.. and when the price rises it will make a lot of difference.. so what can be done, is there a way they can re-evaluate what people should have and are not receiving? Where are my lost 20000 YC and in what wallet did it land?

Thank you guys.

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I don't know.... really i don't know. :)I didn't do the math personaly, but for me it seems to be alright, don't know if it is 10% out of 10% and another 10%

What if it was like :

1 * 1.1 = 1.1 + 1 * 1.1 + 1 * 1.1, .... will your math then be correct, and this can most likely give your 20000YC differences?




It seems to be alright because unless you do the math you will never notice the difference. It's not a huge difference because the payout is divided in chunks, so you never realize how much it's getting in since it's changing all the time.

You win 10% per day of all that you have in your wallet, for 10 days, so you have a profit of 10% every day during 10 days, which equals 10% day1 + 10% day2 + 10% day3 + 10% day4 + 10% day5 + 10% day 6 + 10% day 7 + 10% day 8 + 10% day 9 + 10% day 10, which is equal to 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 in total sum.

IE:

If you have 100BTC:
At end of:
Day 1: 100 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 110
Day 2: 110 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 121
Day 3: 121 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 133.1
Day 4:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 146.41
Day 5:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 161.051
Day 6:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 177.1561
Day 7:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 194.87171
Day 8:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 214.358881
Day 9:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 235.7947691
Day 10:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 259.37424601

All this equals 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 100 = 1.1^10 * 100 = 2.593742460100002 * 100 = 259.37424601.

Here's my math man  Wink
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May 12, 2014, 07:00:33 PM
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All this equals 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 100 = 1.1^10 * 100 = 2.593742460100002 * 100 = 259.37424601.

Here's my math man  Wink


You has 24537,417894 YC in your wallet, it's a 2.5937 ratio at 10% daily PoS at 10days

24537,417894 YC * 2.5937 = ~63642 YC, you have now ~62k
What issue?
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Hi guys,

Sorry for the long post and to those with less patience Grin.

I'm a yellowcoin fan (so there is no doubt about it later). I'm more the reader than the writer so i just read all the comments and take my conclusions while laughing (or should it be crying ?! Cheesy) at some comments..

Anyway, I cannot make sense of the maths that's in here, so just wanna share to you my thoughts and asking if anyone can help clarifying or make sense to what is happening.

So assuming the 10% POS for 10 days we have more 10% * 10%... = 1.1 * 1.1 = 1.1^10 = 2,593742460100002.

Let's just consider my two first transactions, 23549.185 and 988.232894, total 24537,417894 YC.

Let's forget the ~9200 on other transactions and mining and ~5500 lost on orphan blocks that did not recover.

so 24537,417894 * 2,593742460100002 = 63643,742652885370104 YC Which is more than the total i currently have on my wallet ~62000 YC.

So what's wrong here? I should have a total of 80500 YC in my wallet but i have 20000 YC less.

This equals 25% of all the YC i should have.. missing.

I do like YellowCoin and i understand things can have problems and that that takes time.. but it must work.. and staking is not working properly.. you can say it's working, good.. but have all of you made the maths with your wallets and check the theoretical total balance?
Working. not as expected.. staking, but not 10%, at least to me.. it seems more like 7.5%..

Just wanted to understand what's going on here and where's my 20000 YC.. that's a big amount of them, for me at least.. and when the price rises it will make a lot of difference.. so what can be done, is there a way they can re-evaluate what people should have and are not receiving? Where are my lost 20000 YC and in what wallet did it land?

Thank you guys.

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I'll double check mine when I get back from holiday and confirm with you. That doesn't quite add up!

I have always assumed it to be compound staking? Which would be total*1.1=x then next day x*1.1=y then next  day y*1.1=z etc.

Please do Smiley I just want to understand what's wrong here and if it is happening with with you too.. maybe it's happening with some of you guys too and you didn't notice or it could be just me..

"It seems to be alright because unless you do the math you will never notice the difference. It's not a huge difference because the payout is divided in chunks, so you never realize how much it's getting in since it's changing all the time.

You win 10% per day of all that you have in your wallet, for 10 days, so you have a profit of 10% every day during 10 days, which equals 10% day1 + 10% day2 + 10% day3 + 10% day4 + 10% day5 + 10% day 6 + 10% day 7 + 10% day 8 + 10% day 9 + 10% day 10, which is equal to 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 in total sum.

IE:

If you have 100BTC:
At end of:
Day 1: 100 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 110
Day 2: 110 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 121
Day 3: 121 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 133.1
Day 4:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 146.41
Day 5:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 161.051
Day 6:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 177.1561
Day 7:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 194.87171
Day 8:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 214.358881
Day 9:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 235.7947691
Day 10:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 259.37424601

All this equals 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 100 = 1.1^10 * 100 = 2.593742460100002 * 100 = 259.37424601.

Here's my math man"
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May 12, 2014, 07:10:09 PM
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I want the 10% Daily POS back Cheesy

Now 2 scenario's....

People start dumping their coins as they don't earn any extra coins and find it useless to hold.

or

People hold their coins, we get some bigger investors in, prices raises and everybody will earn a lot more money then just dumping Cheesy
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All this equals 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 100 = 1.1^10 * 100 = 2.593742460100002 * 100 = 259.37424601.

Here's my math man  Wink


You has 24537,417894 YC in your wallet, it's a 2.5937 ratio at 10% daily PoS at 10days

24537,417894 YC * 2.5937 = ~63642 YC, you have now ~62k
What issue?


Exactly my friend. Please re-read my comments or read them if you haven't yet.

I stated everything clearly and wrote down my math so you could see before answering.

If you didn't noticed i said..

"Let's just consider my two first transactions, 23549.185 and 988.232894, total 24537,417894 YC." - My two first transcations, out of 11.

"Let's forget the ~9200 on other transactions and mining and ~5500 lost on orphan blocks that did not recover."

If you want it detailed:

"1 - 3rd May - 988.232894 + 23549.185 --> Pos 10 days = 63643.74 YC
2 - 8th May - 1011.275112 + 531.221564 + 57.709002 --> Pos 5 days = 2577.15 YC
3 - 9th May - 1751.984233 + 177.996556 --> Pos 4 days = 2825.69 YC
4 - 10th May - 159.813392 --> Pos 3 days = 212.71 YC
5 - 11th May - 4726.563827 --> Pos 2 days = 5719.14 YC
6 - 12th May - 508.445202 + 271.601887 --> Pos 1 day = 298.76 YC

Sum = 75277.19 YC
Lost in blocks that did not recover = ~5500 YC

Total sum = ~80500 YC "

So the issue is i have 62k in my wallet and i should have 80.5k YC. 20k YC.. not a big issue, is it?
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May 12, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
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Your math is magic.

1 - 3rd May - 988.232894 + 23549.185 --> Pos 10 days = 63643.74 YC
2 - 8th May - 1011.275112 + 531.221564 + 57.709002 --> Pos 5 days = 2577.15 YC
3 - 9th May - 1751.984233 + 177.996556 --> Pos 4 days = 2825.69 YC
4 - 10th May - 159.813392 --> Pos 3 days = 212.71 YC
5 - 11th May - 4726.563827 --> Pos 2 days = 5719.14 YC
6 - 12th May - 508.445202 + 271.601887 --> Pos 1 day = 298.76 YC

Sum = 75277.19 YC
Lost in blocks that did not recover = ~5500 YC

Total sum = ~80500 YC

Here's my magic man.

Ok, BUT if you had this problem, then a lot of the guys would have the same problems? So it was less diluted as excepted, so this means that there is no differences.

Less coins -> higher prices

More coins -> lower prices.

That's why i exposed the situation to you guys, to understand the source of the issue.

I don't know if any one more is having the same problems, that why i'm asking.

I want do know of this is a major issue happening to everyone or if it's just me.

But there is another variable.. how many of you have done the detailed maths, here?

If you have a cancer and you didn't know yet for you everything is just fine.. and same situation can be happening here with users not receiving the supposed amount of coins they deserved and not knowing about that..

So please guys, if anyone can do his maths and check that out it would be helpfu thanks Smiley
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All this equals 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 100 = 1.1^10 * 100 = 2.593742460100002 * 100 = 259.37424601.

Here's my math man  Wink


You has 24537,417894 YC in your wallet, it's a 2.5937 ratio at 10% daily PoS at 10days

24537,417894 YC * 2.5937 = ~63642 YC, you have now ~62k
What issue?


Exactly my friend. Please re-read my comments or read them if you haven't yet.

I stated everything clearly and wrote down my math so you could see before answering.

If you didn't noticed i said..

"Let's just consider my two first transactions, 23549.185 and 988.232894, total 24537,417894 YC." - My two first transcations, out of 11.

"Let's forget the ~9200 on other transactions and mining and ~5500 lost on orphan blocks that did not recover."

If you want it detailed:

"1 - 3rd May - 988.232894 + 23549.185 --> Pos 10 days = 63643.74 YC
2 - 8th May - 1011.275112 + 531.221564 + 57.709002 --> Pos 5 days = 2577.15 YC
3 - 9th May - 1751.984233 + 177.996556 --> Pos 4 days = 2825.69 YC
4 - 10th May - 159.813392 --> Pos 3 days = 212.71 YC
5 - 11th May - 4726.563827 --> Pos 2 days = 5719.14 YC
6 - 12th May - 508.445202 + 271.601887 --> Pos 1 day = 298.76 YC

Sum = 75277.19 YC
Lost in blocks that did not recover = ~5500 YC

Total sum = ~80500 YC "

So the issue is i have 62k in my wallet and i should have 80.5k YC. 20k YC.. not a big issue, is it?

~80500/24537,417894 = 3,280703795 or ~12.7% daily
greasy, isn't it?
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Hi guys,

Sorry for the long post and to those with less patience Grin.

I'm a yellowcoin fan (so there is no doubt about it later). I'm more the reader than the writer so i just read all the comments and take my conclusions while laughing (or should it be crying ?! Cheesy) at some comments..

Anyway, I cannot make sense of the maths that's in here, so just wanna share to you my thoughts and asking if anyone can help clarifying or make sense to what is happening.

So assuming the 10% POS for 10 days we have more 10% * 10%... = 1.1 * 1.1 = 1.1^10 = 2,593742460100002.

Let's just consider my two first transactions, 23549.185 and 988.232894, total 24537,417894 YC.

Let's forget the ~9200 on other transactions and mining and ~5500 lost on orphan blocks that did not recover.

so 24537,417894 * 2,593742460100002 = 63643,742652885370104 YC Which is more than the total i currently have on my wallet ~62000 YC.

So what's wrong here? I should have a total of 80500 YC in my wallet but i have 20000 YC less.

This equals 25% of all the YC i should have.. missing.

I do like YellowCoin and i understand things can have problems and that that takes time.. but it must work.. and staking is not working properly.. you can say it's working, good.. but have all of you made the maths with your wallets and check the theoretical total balance?
Working. not as expected.. staking, but not 10%, at least to me.. it seems more like 7.5%..

Just wanted to understand what's going on here and where's my 20000 YC.. that's a big amount of them, for me at least.. and when the price rises it will make a lot of difference.. so what can be done, is there a way they can re-evaluate what people should have and are not receiving? Where are my lost 20000 YC and in what wallet did it land?

Thank you guys.











I'll double check mine when I get back from holiday and confirm with you. That doesn't quite add up!

I have always assumed it to be compound staking? Which would be total*1.1=x then next day x*1.1=y then next  day y*1.1=z etc.

Please do Smiley I just want to understand what's wrong here and if it is happening with with you too.. maybe it's happening with some of you guys too and you didn't notice or it could be just me..

"It seems to be alright because unless you do the math you will never notice the difference. It's not a huge difference because the payout is divided in chunks, so you never realize how much it's getting in since it's changing all the time.

You win 10% per day of all that you have in your wallet, for 10 days, so you have a profit of 10% every day during 10 days, which equals 10% day1 + 10% day2 + 10% day3 + 10% day4 + 10% day5 + 10% day 6 + 10% day 7 + 10% day 8 + 10% day 9 + 10% day 10, which is equal to 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 in total sum.

IE:

If you have 100BTC:
At end of:
Day 1: 100 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 110
Day 2: 110 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 121
Day 3: 121 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 133.1
Day 4:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 146.41
Day 5:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 161.051
Day 6:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 177.1561
Day 7:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 194.87171
Day 8:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 214.358881
Day 9:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 235.7947691
Day 10:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 259.37424601

All this equals 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 100 = 1.1^10 * 100 = 2.593742460100002 * 100 = 259.37424601.

Here's my math man"
that's not POS man, that's bank interest!
u cannot stake all ur transactions each day (perhaps first day yes) but u don't lose nothing when the interest rate is fixed (you will eventually have your interest).
in this case the interest rate is limited in time (in blocks), the operation stops at the block 108000. the transactions Splits have not yet been Stake, will Stake  with the 3.5% annual interest..
the small difference is due to the fact that all existing YC(transactions) have entered on the Stake (10%) at the same time, so each new block generated will support a part, and transactions must wait their turn (heigh wheight). 10% is time limited , so there will be transactions (or splits) that ll do not have 10% on the last days ...
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May 12, 2014, 07:29:16 PM
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With Yellowcoin only trading at $118K and in fact those 42,000,000 coins will not move a lot the next coming years, i would say that coinmarketcap should be a * (Not Mineable) against it, as indication that this coin is pretty much fully mine and no dilution will be happening.


82    YellowCoin   $ 118,087   $ 0.002799   42,182,042 YC   $ 1,946   -17.46 %


Yellowcoin will certainly be pumped when it hit mintpal, all coins that you buy now at current price, i would say, are really a bargain!!! I think we can see 2000sats or more, certainly if someone with a few BTC start pumping it. So i believe one golden rule here... wait, wait, wait, and become rich Smiley
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All this equals 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 100 = 1.1^10 * 100 = 2.593742460100002 * 100 = 259.37424601.

Here's my math man  Wink


You has 24537,417894 YC in your wallet, it's a 2.5937 ratio at 10% daily PoS at 10days

24537,417894 YC * 2.5937 = ~63642 YC, you have now ~62k
What issue?


Exactly my friend. Please re-read my comments or read them if you haven't yet.

I stated everything clearly and wrote down my math so you could see before answering.

If you didn't noticed i said..

"Let's just consider my two first transactions, 23549.185 and 988.232894, total 24537,417894 YC." - My two first transcations, out of 11.

"Let's forget the ~9200 on other transactions and mining and ~5500 lost on orphan blocks that did not recover."

If you want it detailed:

"1 - 3rd May - 988.232894 + 23549.185 --> Pos 10 days = 63643.74 YC
2 - 8th May - 1011.275112 + 531.221564 + 57.709002 --> Pos 5 days = 2577.15 YC
3 - 9th May - 1751.984233 + 177.996556 --> Pos 4 days = 2825.69 YC
4 - 10th May - 159.813392 --> Pos 3 days = 212.71 YC
5 - 11th May - 4726.563827 --> Pos 2 days = 5719.14 YC
6 - 12th May - 508.445202 + 271.601887 --> Pos 1 day = 298.76 YC

Sum = 75277.19 YC
Lost in blocks that did not recover = ~5500 YC

Total sum = ~80500 YC "

So the issue is i have 62k in my wallet and i should have 80.5k YC. 20k YC.. not a big issue, is it?

~80500/24537,417894 = 3,280703795 or ~12.7% daily
greasy, isn't it?

Oh man, i'm sorry about you. That's one reason i don't comment anywhere, ever.. people like you.

I like my brain a lot so i just prefer to read stupid comments and not answered them because my patience is very tiny.. once you started you cannot stop -.-

Sorry i cannot teach you how to ready English or a comment or do maths man..

But i'm trying to help you.. so for the THIRD time hope you get it..

It's not 24537.417894 YC, it's 33225.464842 YC.

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May 12, 2014, 07:40:50 PM
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Hi guys,

Sorry for the long post and to those with less patience Grin.

I'm a yellowcoin fan (so there is no doubt about it later). I'm more the reader than the writer so i just read all the comments and take my conclusions while laughing (or should it be crying ?! Cheesy) at some comments..

Anyway, I cannot make sense of the maths that's in here, so just wanna share to you my thoughts and asking if anyone can help clarifying or make sense to what is happening.

So assuming the 10% POS for 10 days we have more 10% * 10%... = 1.1 * 1.1 = 1.1^10 = 2,593742460100002.

Let's just consider my two first transactions, 23549.185 and 988.232894, total 24537,417894 YC.

Let's forget the ~9200 on other transactions and mining and ~5500 lost on orphan blocks that did not recover.

so 24537,417894 * 2,593742460100002 = 63643,742652885370104 YC Which is more than the total i currently have on my wallet ~62000 YC.

So what's wrong here? I should have a total of 80500 YC in my wallet but i have 20000 YC less.

This equals 25% of all the YC i should have.. missing.

I do like YellowCoin and i understand things can have problems and that that takes time.. but it must work.. and staking is not working properly.. you can say it's working, good.. but have all of you made the maths with your wallets and check the theoretical total balance?
Working. not as expected.. staking, but not 10%, at least to me.. it seems more like 7.5%..

Just wanted to understand what's going on here and where's my 20000 YC.. that's a big amount of them, for me at least.. and when the price rises it will make a lot of difference.. so what can be done, is there a way they can re-evaluate what people should have and are not receiving? Where are my lost 20000 YC and in what wallet did it land?

Thank you guys.

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I'll double check mine when I get back from holiday and confirm with you. That doesn't quite add up!

I have always assumed it to be compound staking? Which would be total*1.1=x then next day x*1.1=y then next  day y*1.1=z etc.

Please do Smiley I just want to understand what's wrong here and if it is happening with with you too.. maybe it's happening with some of you guys too and you didn't notice or it could be just me..

"It seems to be alright because unless you do the math you will never notice the difference. It's not a huge difference because the payout is divided in chunks, so you never realize how much it's getting in since it's changing all the time.

You win 10% per day of all that you have in your wallet, for 10 days, so you have a profit of 10% every day during 10 days, which equals 10% day1 + 10% day2 + 10% day3 + 10% day4 + 10% day5 + 10% day 6 + 10% day 7 + 10% day 8 + 10% day 9 + 10% day 10, which is equal to 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 in total sum.

IE:

If you have 100BTC:
At end of:
Day 1: 100 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 110
Day 2: 110 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 121
Day 3: 121 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 133.1
Day 4:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 146.41
Day 5:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 161.051
Day 6:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 177.1561
Day 7:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 194.87171
Day 8:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 214.358881
Day 9:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 235.7947691
Day 10:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 259.37424601

All this equals 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 100 = 1.1^10 * 100 = 2.593742460100002 * 100 = 259.37424601.

Here's my math man"
that's not POS man, that's bank interest!
u cannot stake all ur transactions each day (perhaps first day yes) but u don't lose nothing when the interest rate is fixed (you will eventually have your interest).
in this case the interest rate is limited in time (in blocks), the operation stops at the block 108000. the transactions Splits have not yet been Stake, will Stake  with the 3.5% annual interest..
the small difference is due to the fact that all existing YC(transactions) have entered on the Stake (10%) at the same time, so each new block generated will support a part, and transactions must wait their turn (heigh wheight). 10% is time limited , so there will be transactions (or splits) that ll do not have 10% on the last days ...

Even so man, if you took off the last day, the day before.. it's still not there.. the math has to be right man. That's a 20k difference in my wallet, 25% of total, not a 1k or 2k.. and i just have around 60k on it, so on bigger wallets..

But it's really simple to sum everything up and check that out..

Why can't someone just do it? Huh
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We really need to get on a chinese exchange....

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Billioncoin is again trading like crazy.... Think of this. Yellowcoin with a volume of $2M!!!! The moon will be Yellow, and not just the moon, but Mars, Venus, Jupiter, ...
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Someone still have 1.5BTC left for voting on mintpal Cheesy if the first two still have problems with their wallets then we will be third... Where are the big holders with more then 1M coins? Smiley
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With Yellowcoin only trading at $118K and in fact those 42,000,000 coins will not move a lot the next coming years, i would say that coinmarketcap should be a * (Not Mineable) against it, as indication that this coin is pretty much fully mine and no dilution will be happening.


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Yellowcoin will certainly be pumped when it hit mintpal, all coins that you buy now at current price, i would say, are really a bargain!!! I think we can see 2000sats or more, certainly if someone with a few BTC start pumping it. So i believe one golden rule here... wait, wait, wait, and become rich Smiley

Indeed my friend, lets just hope everyone will hold their YC and together we will see it raising Smiley
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Hi guys,

Sorry for the long post and to those with less patience Grin.

I'm a yellowcoin fan (so there is no doubt about it later). I'm more the reader than the writer so i just read all the comments and take my conclusions while laughing (or should it be crying ?! Cheesy) at some comments..

Anyway, I cannot make sense of the maths that's in here, so just wanna share to you my thoughts and asking if anyone can help clarifying or make sense to what is happening.

So assuming the 10% POS for 10 days we have more 10% * 10%... = 1.1 * 1.1 = 1.1^10 = 2,593742460100002.

Let's just consider my two first transactions, 23549.185 and 988.232894, total 24537,417894 YC.

Let's forget the ~9200 on other transactions and mining and ~5500 lost on orphan blocks that did not recover.

so 24537,417894 * 2,593742460100002 = 63643,742652885370104 YC Which is more than the total i currently have on my wallet ~62000 YC.

So what's wrong here? I should have a total of 80500 YC in my wallet but i have 20000 YC less.

This equals 25% of all the YC i should have.. missing.

I do like YellowCoin and i understand things can have problems and that that takes time.. but it must work.. and staking is not working properly.. you can say it's working, good.. but have all of you made the maths with your wallets and check the theoretical total balance?
Working. not as expected.. staking, but not 10%, at least to me.. it seems more like 7.5%..

Just wanted to understand what's going on here and where's my 20000 YC.. that's a big amount of them, for me at least.. and when the price rises it will make a lot of difference.. so what can be done, is there a way they can re-evaluate what people should have and are not receiving? Where are my lost 20000 YC and in what wallet did it land?

Thank you guys.











I'll double check mine when I get back from holiday and confirm with you. That doesn't quite add up!

I have always assumed it to be compound staking? Which would be total*1.1=x then next day x*1.1=y then next  day y*1.1=z etc.

Please do Smiley I just want to understand what's wrong here and if it is happening with with you too.. maybe it's happening with some of you guys too and you didn't notice or it could be just me..

"It seems to be alright because unless you do the math you will never notice the difference. It's not a huge difference because the payout is divided in chunks, so you never realize how much it's getting in since it's changing all the time.

You win 10% per day of all that you have in your wallet, for 10 days, so you have a profit of 10% every day during 10 days, which equals 10% day1 + 10% day2 + 10% day3 + 10% day4 + 10% day5 + 10% day 6 + 10% day 7 + 10% day 8 + 10% day 9 + 10% day 10, which is equal to 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 in total sum.

IE:

If you have 100BTC:
At end of:
Day 1: 100 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 110
Day 2: 110 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 121
Day 3: 121 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 133.1
Day 4:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 146.41
Day 5:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 161.051
Day 6:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 177.1561
Day 7:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 194.87171
Day 8:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 214.358881
Day 9:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 235.7947691
Day 10:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 259.37424601

All this equals 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 100 = 1.1^10 * 100 = 2.593742460100002 * 100 = 259.37424601.

Here's my math man"
that's not POS man, that's bank interest!
u cannot stake all ur transactions each day (perhaps first day yes) but u don't lose nothing when the interest rate is fixed (you will eventually have your interest).
in this case the interest rate is limited in time (in blocks), the operation stops at the block 108000. the transactions Splits have not yet been Stake, will Stake  with the 3.5% annual interest..
the small difference is due to the fact that all existing YC(transactions) have entered on the Stake (10%) at the same time, so each new block generated will support a part, and transactions must wait their turn (heigh wheight). 10% is time limited , so there will be transactions (or splits) that ll do not have 10% on the last days ...

Even so man, if you took off the last day, the day before.. it's still not there.. the math has to be right man. That's a 20k difference in my wallet, 25% of total, not a 1k or 2k.. and i just have around 60k on it, so on bigger wallets..

But it's really simple to sum everything up and check that out..

Why can't someone just do it? Huh
The OP says: "Block Day 15-25 (POS): Blocks 64800 -108000 Nominal Stake Interest: 10% Daily". What if days and blocks aren't synchronous? By the way: 15-25 are 11 days.

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May 12, 2014, 08:08:20 PM
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Hi guys,

Sorry for the long post and to those with less patience Grin.

I'm a yellowcoin fan (so there is no doubt about it later). I'm more the reader than the writer so i just read all the comments and take my conclusions while laughing (or should it be crying ?! Cheesy) at some comments..

Anyway, I cannot make sense of the maths that's in here, so just wanna share to you my thoughts and asking if anyone can help clarifying or make sense to what is happening.

So assuming the 10% POS for 10 days we have more 10% * 10%... = 1.1 * 1.1 = 1.1^10 = 2,593742460100002.

Let's just consider my two first transactions, 23549.185 and 988.232894, total 24537,417894 YC.

Let's forget the ~9200 on other transactions and mining and ~5500 lost on orphan blocks that did not recover.

so 24537,417894 * 2,593742460100002 = 63643,742652885370104 YC Which is more than the total i currently have on my wallet ~62000 YC.

So what's wrong here? I should have a total of 80500 YC in my wallet but i have 20000 YC less.

This equals 25% of all the YC i should have.. missing.

I do like YellowCoin and i understand things can have problems and that that takes time.. but it must work.. and staking is not working properly.. you can say it's working, good.. but have all of you made the maths with your wallets and check the theoretical total balance?
Working. not as expected.. staking, but not 10%, at least to me.. it seems more like 7.5%..

Just wanted to understand what's going on here and where's my 20000 YC.. that's a big amount of them, for me at least.. and when the price rises it will make a lot of difference.. so what can be done, is there a way they can re-evaluate what people should have and are not receiving? Where are my lost 20000 YC and in what wallet did it land?

Thank you guys.

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I'll double check mine when I get back from holiday and confirm with you. That doesn't quite add up!

I have always assumed it to be compound staking? Which would be total*1.1=x then next day x*1.1=y then next  day y*1.1=z etc.

Please do Smiley I just want to understand what's wrong here and if it is happening with with you too.. maybe it's happening with some of you guys too and you didn't notice or it could be just me..

"It seems to be alright because unless you do the math you will never notice the difference. It's not a huge difference because the payout is divided in chunks, so you never realize how much it's getting in since it's changing all the time.

You win 10% per day of all that you have in your wallet, for 10 days, so you have a profit of 10% every day during 10 days, which equals 10% day1 + 10% day2 + 10% day3 + 10% day4 + 10% day5 + 10% day 6 + 10% day 7 + 10% day 8 + 10% day 9 + 10% day 10, which is equal to 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 in total sum.

IE:

If you have 100BTC:
At end of:
Day 1: 100 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 110
Day 2: 110 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 121
Day 3: 121 * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 133.1
Day 4:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 146.41
Day 5:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 161.051
Day 6:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 177.1561
Day 7:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 194.87171
Day 8:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 214.358881
Day 9:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 235.7947691
Day 10:  * 110% = 100 * 1.1 = 259.37424601

All this equals 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 100 = 1.1^10 * 100 = 2.593742460100002 * 100 = 259.37424601.

Here's my math man"
that's not POS man, that's bank interest!
u cannot stake all ur transactions each day (perhaps first day yes) but u don't lose nothing when the interest rate is fixed (you will eventually have your interest).
in this case the interest rate is limited in time (in blocks), the operation stops at the block 108000. the transactions Splits have not yet been Stake, will Stake  with the 3.5% annual interest..
the small difference is due to the fact that all existing YC(transactions) have entered on the Stake (10%) at the same time, so each new block generated will support a part, and transactions must wait their turn (heigh wheight). 10% is time limited , so there will be transactions (or splits) that ll do not have 10% on the last days ...

Even so man, if you took off the last day, the day before.. it's still not there.. the math has to be right man. That's a 20k difference in my wallet, 25% of total, not a 1k or 2k.. and i just have around 60k on it, so on bigger wallets..

But it's really simple to sum everything up and check that out..

Why can't someone just do it? Huh
The OP says: "Block Day 15-25 (POS): Blocks 64800 -108000 Nominal Stake Interest: 10% Daily". What if days and blocks aren't synchronous? By the way: 15-25 are 11 days.

They are, they have to be or none of these would make sense. Math has to be there.

It's all about blocks, not days.. we talk about days because x blocks represent y days.

YC have 20 second blocks.. 60 * 60 * 24 = 86400 seconds in a day.

86400 / 20 = 4320 new blocks a day of YC.

108000 - 64800 = 43200 = 4320 blocks * 10 days.

Block Day 15-25 (POS): Blocks 64800 -108000 Nominal Stake Interest: 10% Daily" --> Devs mistake on the number of days.
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Block Day 15-25 (POS): Blocks 64800 -108000 Nominal Stake Interest: 10% Daily" --> Devs mistake on the number of days.

I don't think he made it on propose, so i would also say 10 days and saying from day 15 till 25 as it is a error that a lot of people make, but everybody knows that he in fact means from 15 - 24. or maybe it is half of day 15 till have of they 25 Cheesy
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Block Day 15-25 (POS): Blocks 64800 -108000 Nominal Stake Interest: 10% Daily" --> Devs mistake on the number of days.

I don't think he made it on propose, so i would also say 10 days and saying from day 15 till 25 as it is a error that a lot of people make, but everybody knows that he in fact means from 15 - 24. or maybe it is half of day 15 till have of they 25 Cheesy

I don't think he did on purpose, too. That's why i said "mistake". No mistake happens on purpose i guess Grin

That's a very plausible error to make.. In fact it's not even an error since the domain is unknown, it can contain 25 or not contain 25.. [15, 25] contains it and [15, 25[ don't..
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