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April 23, 2014, 02:24:13 PM
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I am a little worried about this issue.  I am all for the rights and freedoms of people to do what they want, but when it comes to hurting children, I don't approve at all nor do I want to indirectly support that kind of thing.  The first thing that came to mind with this project was drugs, porn, sex, terrorism, and gambling.  I don't know if I really want my computer to be supporting that network.  At the same time I am not sure if there is anyway to tell just what my computer is supporting or not supporting as it is all encrypted and chopped in bits.  But enabling a network to do encourage the abuse of children isn't cool at all.  I am all for being able to go to political sites and send messages to my friends without google profiling me for adds and the NSA connecting all the dots of my existence, but at what cost?  For now, I am definitely supporting the maidsafe platform and hope that internally they can find ways to deal with certain distasteful issues. 
This is a classic "system trained mind" versus a free and libertarian mind argument.

Ok, i will put it this way.

Trucks can transport porn. Can transport poker decks, alcohol and weapons. Lets ban trucks.
Boxes can contain weapons. Drugs, anthrax. Lets get rid of all the boxes in the world.
You can see child porn on an ipad. Also you can read on wikipedia how to print a knife on a 3D printer. Lets destroy apple, delete wikipedia and dont use electricity anymore.

Hope you get the point. I can host on my encrypted HHD some bits that once decrypted and uncompressed on a guy laptop is a naked child. Basically because i dont know whats on this bytes. Neither the ISP is responsible. not the camera that made the photo. Once that appears, i will be fine with police raiding the hell of the guy out. But my PC is not guilty. He is. The perpetrator of the illegal action is.

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April 23, 2014, 02:37:02 PM
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bad examples.

more accurate:
- you lend your ipad to a known child rapist because he wants to "download some stuff".
- you are a truck driver and get hired by a columbian drug cartel to "transport some stuff".
- you are a knife manufacturer and get a big order by an organization called "the children of ted bundy" because they want to "peel some stuff".
- you know that this maidsafe network will first of all be a welcome distribution network for all kind of disturbing and illegal content. still you decide to become part of it.

you're coming up with the same excuses that made the holocaust possible. "i'm not the one pulling the trigger. i'm only providing the weapon. so that's fine i guess."

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April 23, 2014, 03:02:08 PM
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MaidSafe will have access to your data any time, will be able to sell it and I think they will do as they are greedy as hell.
I know is feeding the troll, but just one hint: The data will be ENCRYPTED. So no selling or accesing. ENCRYPTED.
Jesus.

Yes I am a little bit trolling sometime but not too much here though.

If data are ENCRYPTED at a point, they must be DECRYPTED at an other.

Only MaidSafe have a total control over it, the software is NOT open-source. So yes, they can access and sell it and you have no way of knowing.

The MaidSafe Foundation, a registered charity, own the patents.

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April 23, 2014, 03:03:25 PM
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Uh, we had the same discussion at the start of bitcoin and so far that seems to be working out, so why try and rehash it with this? The number of people doing bad things will be far outweighed by the good. Thats life.

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April 23, 2014, 03:19:46 PM
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The project looks very interesting and ambitious ,but still need more people recognize the value.

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April 23, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
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bad examples.

more accurate:
- you lend your ipad to a known child rapist because he wants to "download some stuff".
- you are a truck driver and get hired by a columbian drug cartel to "transport some stuff".
- you are a knife manufacturer and get a big order by an organization called "the children of ted bundy" because they want to "peel some stuff".
- you know that this maidsafe network will first of all be a welcome distribution network for all kind of disturbing and illegal content. still you decide to become part of it.

you're coming up with the same excuses that made the holocaust possible. "i'm not the one pulling the trigger. i'm only providing the weapon. so that's fine i guess."

one can therefor make the same argument about bitcoin. in fact a huge portion of bitcoin tx are for gambling... so I hear
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April 23, 2014, 03:49:08 PM
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Can I send .5 BTC and get 8500 safecoins? Or is the minimum 1 BTC?

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April 23, 2014, 03:52:53 PM
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1.2 million in BTC for vaporware given to a charity with no legal comebacks......I really need to run an IPO.
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Clueless as usual.

Hey, a thieving butt monkey as usual...hows ZenithCoin, Carlos?

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April 23, 2014, 04:07:30 PM
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The project looks very interesting and ambitious ,but still need more people recognize the value.

thanks. for more information:
IPO thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579797.0
site: http://maidsafe.net/
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April 23, 2014, 04:23:52 PM
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bad examples.

more accurate:
- you lend your ipad to a known child rapist because he wants to "download some stuff".
- you are a truck driver and get hired by a columbian drug cartel to "transport some stuff".
- you are a knife manufacturer and get a big order by an organization called "the children of ted bundy" because they want to "peel some stuff".
- you know that this maidsafe network will first of all be a welcome distribution network for all kind of disturbing and illegal content. still you decide to become part of it.

you're coming up with the same excuses that made the holocaust possible. "i'm not the one pulling the trigger. i'm only providing the weapon. so that's fine i guess."

one can therefor make the same argument about bitcoin. in fact a huge portion of bitcoin tx are for gambling... so I hear

you are right. also bitcoin has a huge gap between its flower power theory and the dirty practice. but at least (if you can call it at least) it only provides the means to anonymously pay for child porn. maidsafe however is designed to provide an infrastructure for anonymously paying/selling, storing and distributing child porn. whatever good can be done with this technology, it will be paid with 100x evil.

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April 23, 2014, 04:31:10 PM
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1.2 million in BTC for vaporware given to a charity with no legal comebacks......I really need to run an IPO.
Anyone want some EvilCoin?

Clueless as usual.

Hey, a thieving butt monkey as usual...hows ZenithCoin, Carlos?

Doing quite well.  Did you see the presentation at www.cryptocurrencyconvention.com?

I guess you also missed the Safecoin presentation too.   


      
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April 23, 2014, 04:41:13 PM
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Why would I want to pay for their decentralized internet?

Haven't people heard of I2P?

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Why would I want to pay for their decentralized internet?

Haven't people heard of I2P?

Why would anyone pay for Nxt?

Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?


      
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April 23, 2014, 04:50:54 PM
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Why would I want to pay for their decentralized internet?

Haven't people heard of I2P?

Why would anyone pay for Nxt?

Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?

Because NXT has a completely different feature set than bitcoin and is designed to be a multi-currency payment platform where Bitcoin is more suited to be a crypto-commodity.

What advantages does Maidsafe have over I2P?

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Why would I want to pay for their decentralized internet?

Haven't people heard of I2P?

Why would anyone pay for Nxt?

Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?

Because NXT has a completely different feature set than bitcoin and is designed to be a multi-currency payment platform where Bitcoin is more suited to be a crypto-commodity.

What advantages does Maidsafe have over I2P?

Because Safecoin has a completely different feature set than I2P and is designed to be a multi-purpose P2P platform where I2P is more suited to be a commodity P2P.



      
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1.2 million in BTC for vaporware given to a charity with no legal comebacks......I really need to run an IPO.
Anyone want some EvilCoin?

Clueless as usual.

Hey, a thieving butt monkey as usual...hows ZenithCoin, Carlos?

Doing quite well.  Did you see the presentation at www.cryptocurrencyconvention.com?

I guess you also missed the Safecoin presentation too.  
Saw Zenithcoin on coinmarketcap, tho'. "Doing quite well" is an interesting way to describe Zenithcoins performance.
24hour trade volume of $7.....I am impressed. Still, 134th is better than it's usual position at 220th or lower. Good pump, mate.


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Why would I want to pay for their decentralized internet?

Haven't people heard of I2P?

Why would anyone pay for Nxt?

Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?

Because NXT has a completely different feature set than bitcoin and is designed to be a multi-currency payment platform where Bitcoin is more suited to be a crypto-commodity.

What advantages does Maidsafe have over I2P?

Because Safecoin has a completely different feature set than I2P and is designed to be a multi-purpose P2P platform where I2P is more suited to be a commodity P2P.


i appreciate your comment.
you guys can go the IPO thread to discuss and get timely information.
IPO thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579797.0
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I dont think this coin will make any real progress in the near future.
Maybe not a scam but kinds fishy

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Why would I want to pay for their decentralized internet?

Haven't people heard of I2P?

Why would anyone pay for Nxt?

Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?

Because NXT has a completely different feature set than bitcoin and is designed to be a multi-currency payment platform where Bitcoin is more suited to be a crypto-commodity.

What advantages does Maidsafe have over I2P?

Because Safecoin has a completely different feature set than I2P and is designed to be a multi-purpose P2P platform where I2P is more suited to be a commodity P2P.



That makes no sense.

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Why would I want to pay for their decentralized internet?
Haven't people heard of I2P?
Why would anyone pay for Nxt?
Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?
Because NXT has a completely different feature set than bitcoin and is designed to be a multi-currency payment platform where Bitcoin is more suited to be a crypto-commodity.
What advantages does Maidsafe have over I2P?
Because Safecoin has a completely different feature set than I2P and is designed to be a multi-purpose P2P platform where I2P is more suited to be a commodity P2P.
That makes no sense.

Yeah. People pay few millions dollars for something that is 14 years old and always been free.
Do you google sometime people ?

Freenet :

Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication. It uses a decentralized distributed data store to store information, and has a suite of free software for working with this data store. Both Freenet and some of its associated tools were originally designed by Ian Clarke, who defines Freenet's goal as providing freedom of speech with strong anonymity protection.

Freenet works by storing small encrypted snippets of content distributed on the computers of its users and connecting only through intermediate computers which pass on requests for content and sending them back without knowing the contents of the full file, similar to how routers on the Internet route packets without knowing anything about files—except with caching, a layer of strong encryption, and without reliance on centralized structures. This allows users to publish anonymously or retrieve various kinds of information. Freenet has been under continuous development since 2000.


I2p :

The Invisible Internet Project (I2P) is a computer network layer that allows applications to send messages to each other pseudonymously and securely. Uses include anonymous web surfing, chatting, blogging and file transfers. The software that implements this layer is called an I2P router and a computer running I2P is called an I2P node.

The software is free and open source and is published under multiple licenses. The name I2P is derived from Invisible Internet Project, which, in pseudo-mathematical notation, is represented as I²P.
Since I2P is an anonymous network layer, it is designed so other software can use it for anonymous communication. As such there are a variety of tools currently available for I2P or in development.

The I2P router is controlled through the router console which is a web frontend accessed through a web browser.



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