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June 11, 2014, 08:36:12 PM
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Please anybody can help?
I feel noob.
How can I create a Payment ID so I can be receive a XMR payment?
Is there a command to do that?
You don't have to create a Payment ID to receive an XMR payment. All you have to do is send to your XMR address.

Payment IDs are for exchanges so they know who deposited what (as all deposits go to the same address).

I understand your point, but I need one in order to be refounded by Bittrex.
First I send XMRx from Bittrex to Poloniex without payment ID.
Poloniex cleans his hands but Bittrex ask me for one payments ID so they can credited my lost moneros.
Excuse my poor english. It is not my native language.
Why does Bittrex need a payment ID to credit your lost XMR? Payment IDs are 64-character strings, which means any 64 letters or numbers in a row.

I suspect Bittrex are saying "yes, we can see your transfer hasnt gone through so we will credit your XMR back to your Bittrex wallet, but to do that they need your Bittrex XMR wallet address and payment ID (both available from your XMR wallet on Bittrex)"

- open your XMR wallet on Bittrex
- copy wallet address and payment ID
- send both to Bittrex support

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June 11, 2014, 08:38:04 PM
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Please anybody can help?
I feel noob.
How can I create a Payment ID so I can be receive a XMR payment?
Is there a command to do that?
You don't have to create a Payment ID to receive an XMR payment. All you have to do is send to your XMR address.

Payment IDs are for exchanges so they know who deposited what (as all deposits go to the same address).

I understand your point, but I need one in order to be refounded by Bittrex.
First I send XMRx from Bittrex to Poloniex without payment ID.
Poloniex cleans his hands but Bittrex ask me for one payments ID so they can credited my lost moneros.
Excuse my poor english. It is not my native language.
Why does Bittrex need a payment ID to credit your lost XMR? Payment IDs are 64-character strings, which means any 64 letters or numbers in a row.
I dont know. Perhaps they are going to resend the coin to poloniex but this time they want to be sure I dont forget the poloniex payment ID.
I can not find the way to create a payment ID from simplewallet. Help in simplewallet do not help
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June 11, 2014, 08:40:42 PM
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Please anybody can help?
I feel noob.
How can I create a Payment ID so I can be receive a XMR payment?
Is there a command to do that?
You don't have to create a Payment ID to receive an XMR payment. All you have to do is send to your XMR address.

Payment IDs are for exchanges so they know who deposited what (as all deposits go to the same address).

I understand your point, but I need one in order to be refounded by Bittrex.
First I send XMRx from Bittrex to Poloniex without payment ID.
Poloniex cleans his hands but Bittrex ask me for one payments ID so they can credited my lost moneros.
Excuse my poor english. It is not my native language.
Why does Bittrex need a payment ID to credit your lost XMR? Payment IDs are 64-character strings, which means any 64 letters or numbers in a row.
I dont know. Perhaps they are going to resend the coin to poloniex but this time they want to be sure I dont forget the poloniex payment ID.
I can not find the way to create a payment ID from simplewallet. Help in simplewallet do not help

Geez, the payment ID that Bittrex asked you is provided by Poloniex, login to Poloniex balance page and grap it. It is displayed right below deposit address together with a button named "Generate new Payment ID".

There is no way you could find your Poloniex Payment ID in your simplewallet.
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June 11, 2014, 08:40:53 PM
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Please anybody can help?
I feel noob.
How can I create a Payment ID so I can be receive a XMR payment?
Is there a command to do that?
You don't have to create a Payment ID to receive an XMR payment. All you have to do is send to your XMR address.

Payment IDs are for exchanges so they know who deposited what (as all deposits go to the same address).

I understand your point, but I need one in order to be refounded by Bittrex.
First I send XMRx from Bittrex to Poloniex without payment ID.
Poloniex cleans his hands but Bittrex ask me for one payments ID so they can credited my lost moneros.
Excuse my poor english. It is not my native language.
Why does Bittrex need a payment ID to credit your lost XMR? Payment IDs are 64-character strings, which means any 64 letters or numbers in a row.

I suspect Bittrex are saying "yes, we can see your transfer hasnt gone through so we will credit your XMR back to your Bittrex wallet, but to do that they need your Bittrex XMR wallet address and payment ID (both available from your XMR wallet on Bittrex)"

- open your XMR wallet on Bittrex
- copy wallet address and payment ID
- send both to Bittrex support
Or the other option is Bittrex want to help you and send your funds to poloniex with the poloniex address and payment id so if this is the case you could get them from poloniex -> balances (click on the generate payment id button if you didn't done it already).

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June 11, 2014, 08:56:39 PM
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Please anybody can help?
I feel noob.
How can I create a Payment ID so I can be receive a XMR payment?
Is there a command to do that?
You don't have to create a Payment ID to receive an XMR payment. All you have to do is send to your XMR address.

Payment IDs are for exchanges so they know who deposited what (as all deposits go to the same address).

I understand your point, but I need one in order to be refounded by Bittrex.
First I send XMRx from Bittrex to Poloniex without payment ID.
Poloniex cleans his hands but Bittrex ask me for one payments ID so they can credited my lost moneros.
Excuse my poor english. It is not my native language.
Why does Bittrex need a payment ID to credit your lost XMR? Payment IDs are 64-character strings, which means any 64 letters or numbers in a row.

I suspect Bittrex are saying "yes, we can see your transfer hasnt gone through so we will credit your XMR back to your Bittrex wallet, but to do that they need your Bittrex XMR wallet address and payment ID (both available from your XMR wallet on Bittrex)"

- open your XMR wallet on Bittrex
- copy wallet address and payment ID
- send both to Bittrex support
Or the other option is Bittrex want to help you and send your funds to poloniex with the poloniex address and payment id so if this is the case you could get them from poloniex -> balances (click on the generate payment id button if you didn't done it already).

I think is the option 1, but I think is better I will tell them the two ones, so I can not fail again.
Thanks
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June 11, 2014, 09:39:02 PM
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Either a Poloniex wallet address and payment ID, or the Bittrex ones should be enough Smiley

At least all this trouble people have with payment IDs goes to show that XMR is anonymous by default, an extra process is required to make a payment identifiable

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June 11, 2014, 09:59:50 PM
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At least all this trouble people have with payment IDs goes to show that XMR is anonymous by default, an extra process is required to make a payment identifiable
Not necessarily. The reason a Payment ID is needed is because all the payments go to one address.
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June 11, 2014, 11:05:10 PM
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Can somebody compare boolberry and monero for me? Not sure what one's advantage is over the others. I see that monero uses CryptoNight algo while boolberry uses Wild Keccak..
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June 11, 2014, 11:14:17 PM
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Can somebody compare boolberry and monero for me? Not sure what one's advantage is over the others. I see that monero uses CryptoNight algo while boolberry uses Wild Keccak..

You'll probably get a better answer on the BBR thread. Monero is essentially a "vanilla" Cryptonote-based coin, based closely on the bytecoin "reference implementation" (though it has already diverged and will continue to diverge). BBR made a bunch of user-visiable changes, along with changing the PoW function.
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June 11, 2014, 11:33:58 PM
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I am the masses.  I'm interested i'm Monero due to the involvement of people I respect.  I have no computer skills.  My new computer is windows 8.1 with a pentium chip Embarrassed so I wont be mining.  I started using btc over a year ago.  I have never downloaded the blockchain as I have only used the electrum wallet.  I have considered purchasing XMR but the process of downloading, setting up, and transferring is daunting.  I don't want use an exchange for storage.  I see that an attempt is being made to make a deterministic wallet.  Will this mean no downloading of the blockchain like electrum?  

Any advice on how to get started with Monero would be appreciated.

Thanks I'll give it a go when I have some time.  Just to reinforce how clueless I am, in 13 years of owning a computer I have never backed up anything Embarrassed  This is another joy with using the electrum wallet, never a need to back it up.  My seeds are safely stored in several secure locations and my btc will live on when I die.

If you do not have computer skills, for this you should GNU/Linux as it work out of the box (see monero.cc Getting started - for install_monero.sh). Firstly, you can try it from USB bootable stick (see e.g. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows) on which changes will be saved if you set up persistence.

I found out about BTC 6 month ago, and I never actually used Electrum, but I'we been reading about best practices for deterministic wallets and I'we been running bitmonero daemon for a few weeks now. And, for what I understand, if you just wish to create a seed you may not use persistence and can skip installing cpuminer - the script will guide you through the process. Then you would disconnect from the network and generate a wallet, after which should be the same as with your other seeds. I suppose that there are no watching only option for simplewallet, at least at the moment.

One of things that I like about Monero is egalitarian idea behind it (which seems to be working) so if you put to work even old computer, and you let it mine within the daemon, you actually have a chance of finding a block.
You NEED to start mining.  Don:t use a pool. Just be patient.
It would be nice if Monero GNU/Linux distro comes to life, after i2p is reimplemented in c++ Smiley

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June 11, 2014, 11:43:26 PM
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At least all this trouble people have with payment IDs goes to show that XMR is anonymous by default, an extra process is required to make a payment identifiable
Not necessarily. The reason a Payment ID is needed is because all the payments go to one address.

That's kind of my point, if you have a bunch of payments going to a single address there isnt a way to identify them unless a separate ID is provided. I know that's a simplification but the default behaviour of the wallet protects a new user's identity, unlike Bitcoin and its children where a careless transaction could make your activities identifiable.

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June 12, 2014, 12:39:51 AM
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At least all this trouble people have with payment IDs goes to show that XMR is anonymous by default, an extra process is required to make a payment identifiable
Not necessarily. The reason a Payment ID is needed is because all the payments go to one address.

That's kind of my point, if you have a bunch of payments going to a single address there isnt a way to identify them unless a separate ID is provided. I know that's a simplification but the default behaviour of the wallet protects a new user's identity, unlike Bitcoin and its children where a careless transaction could make your activities identifiable.

True, but that's not really the reason. In fact most exchanges recommend sending payments with a mixin of 0, which means the sender is not really anonymous.

The reason for the difference in handling of deposits is that bitcoin (and clone) wallets make it easy to create one more more new deposit addresses for each user account. Deposits can then be identified by the address to which they are sent. This coin does not make that easy, so the payment ID mechanism is required.

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June 12, 2014, 01:21:03 AM
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You seem to have an extra space between R and o in the address segment fHsGRoyZk3ES.
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June 12, 2014, 01:22:06 AM
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I am the masses.  I'm interested i'm Monero due to the involvement of people I respect.  I have no computer skills.  My new computer is windows 8.1 with a pentium chip Embarrassed so I wont be mining.  I started using btc over a year ago.  I have never downloaded the blockchain as I have only used the electrum wallet.  I have considered purchasing XMR but the process of downloading, setting up, and transferring is daunting.  I don't want use an exchange for storage.  I see that an attempt is being made to make a deterministic wallet.  Will this mean no downloading of the blockchain like electrum?  

Any advice on how to get started with Monero would be appreciated.

Thanks I'll give it a go when I have some time.  Just to reinforce how clueless I am, in 13 years of owning a computer I have never backed up anything Embarrassed  This is another joy with using the electrum wallet, never a need to back it up.  My seeds are safely stored in several secure locations and my btc will live on when I die.

If you do not have computer skills, for this you should GNU/Linux as it work out of the box (see monero.cc Getting started - for install_monero.sh). Firstly, you can try it from USB bootable stick (see e.g. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows) on which changes will be saved if you set up persistence.

I found out about BTC 6 month ago, and I never actually used Electrum, but I'we been reading about best practices for deterministic wallets and I'we been running bitmonero daemon for a few weeks now. And, for what I understand, if you just wish to create a seed you may not use persistence and can skip installing cpuminer - the script will guide you through the process. Then you would disconnect from the network and generate a wallet, after which should be the same as with your other seeds. I suppose that there are no watching only option for simplewallet, at least at the moment.

One of things that I like about Monero is egalitarian idea behind it (which seems to be working) so if you put to work even old computer, and you let it mine within the daemon, you actually have a chance of finding a block.
You NEED to start mining.  Don:t use a pool. Just be patient.
It would be nice if Monero GNU/Linux distro comes to life, after i2p is reimplemented in c++ Smiley



I must have less than no computer skills.  I downloaded Monero as all I needed to do was click.  I was following the MoneroTalk tutorial where it said after downloadimg (one of the 5 files they show is a zip file which I don't have, just the other 4) I am instructed to SIMPLY move the file to %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming.  After googling and searching for what would be the correct name of my USERPROFILE I came  up empty handed.  One hour gone.

On the Monereo site it basically says their installation instruction only work for Linux.  I had recently saved a link that explains dual boot with linux.  I just read it and stopped when they talk about partitioning my hard drive.  Am I to assume that using a bootable USB stick is easier?  If I am running Monero with linux can I use my computer in Windows as well?  I use my computer a lot during the day and must use windows.
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June 12, 2014, 01:23:03 AM
Last edit: June 12, 2014, 01:35:41 AM by David Latapie
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Can somebody compare boolberry and monero for me? Not sure what one's advantage is over the others. I see that monero uses CryptoNight algo while boolberry uses Wild Keccak..
Hi Stormia! Nice to see you there!

I must have less than no computer skills.  I downloaded Monero as all I needed to do was click.  I was following the MoneroTalk tutorial where it said after downloadimg (one of the 5 files they show is a zip file which I don't have, just the other 4) I am instructed to SIMPLY move the file to %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming.  After googling and searching for what would be the correct name of my USERPROFILE I came  up empty handed.  One hour gone.

On the Monereo site it basically says their installation instruction only work for Linux.  I had recently saved a link that explains dual boot with linux.  I just read it and stopped when they talk about partitioning my hard drive.  Am I to assume that using a bootable USB stick is easier?  If I am running Monero with linux can I use my computer in Windows as well?  I use my computer a lot during the day and must use windows.

First, let me assure you not being able to install Monero easily is by no means an evidence that you are not good at computing Smiley We are working hard to make it easier to install and mine monero.

Second, if you want to dual boot on Linux, you won't be able to use your computer on Windows at the same time. A better option is to run a Linux virtual machine on your Windows OS - no partitionning, no risk of losing data, you only have to download Virtualbox and Ubuntu 14.04. The downside is that, because of paravirtualisation, your computer will be slower AND your mining will be less effective than with a native, Windows client.

To access the folder, just open an explorer.exe window, click the address bar (I think ctrl+l works too, but this is from memory), remove everything in it and type this: %appdata%.

For more help, I suggest you to come to #monero on IRC (freenode server). A lot of people here can help you. If you don't have an IRC program, I suggest you install hexchat.

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June 12, 2014, 02:15:43 AM
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Update on the mining instructions:
Addition of the newest parameters for Wolf's cpuminer:

Code:
sudo sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=X
where X=number_of_threads * 3

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June 12, 2014, 02:22:46 AM
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I am the masses.  I'm interested i'm Monero due to the involvement of people I respect.  I have no computer skills.  My new computer is windows 8.1 with a pentium chip Embarrassed so I wont be mining.  I started using btc over a year ago.  I have never downloaded the blockchain as I have only used the electrum wallet.  I have considered purchasing XMR but the process of downloading, setting up, and transferring is daunting.  I don't want use an exchange for storage.  I see that an attempt is being made to make a deterministic wallet.  Will this mean no downloading of the blockchain like electrum?  

Any advice on how to get started with Monero would be appreciated.

Thanks I'll give it a go when I have some time.  Just to reinforce how clueless I am, in 13 years of owning a computer I have never backed up anything Embarrassed  This is another joy with using the electrum wallet, never a need to back it up.  My seeds are safely stored in several secure locations and my btc will live on when I die.

If you do not have computer skills, for this you should GNU/Linux as it work out of the box (see monero.cc Getting started - for install_monero.sh). Firstly, you can try it from USB bootable stick (see e.g. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows) on which changes will be saved if you set up persistence.

I found out about BTC 6 month ago, and I never actually used Electrum, but I'we been reading about best practices for deterministic wallets and I'we been running bitmonero daemon for a few weeks now. And, for what I understand, if you just wish to create a seed you may not use persistence and can skip installing cpuminer - the script will guide you through the process. Then you would disconnect from the network and generate a wallet, after which should be the same as with your other seeds. I suppose that there are no watching only option for simplewallet, at least at the moment.

One of things that I like about Monero is egalitarian idea behind it (which seems to be working) so if you put to work even old computer, and you let it mine within the daemon, you actually have a chance of finding a block.
You NEED to start mining.  Don:t use a pool. Just be patient.
It would be nice if Monero GNU/Linux distro comes to life, after i2p is reimplemented in c++ Smiley



I must have less than no computer skills.  I downloaded Monero as all I needed to do was click.  I was following the MoneroTalk tutorial where it said after downloadimg (one of the 5 files they show is a zip file which I don't have, just the other 4) I am instructed to SIMPLY move the file to %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming.  After googling and searching for what would be the correct name of my USERPROFILE I came  up empty handed.  One hour gone.

On the Monereo site it basically says their installation instruction only work for Linux.  I had recently saved a link that explains dual boot with linux.  I just read it and stopped when they talk about partitioning my hard drive.  Am I to assume that using a bootable USB stick is easier?  If I am running Monero with linux can I use my computer in Windows as well?  I use my computer a lot during the day and must use windows.

First go to your  control panel and click folder  options
Click on view hidden files

Now go to start (win 7)  and perform search for %appdata%
Folder option will appear Double click on roaming folder
Creat bitmonero folder
Double click bitmonero  folder and save the block chain in there

For Windows eight use the magnifying glass to search for %appdata%
And a roaming folder option will appear.  First you must set folders to view hidden in control panel

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June 12, 2014, 02:33:14 AM
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June 12, 2014, 02:41:36 AM
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Update on the mining instructions:
Addition of the newest parameters for Wolf's cpuminer:

Code:
sudo sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=X
where X=number_of_threads * 3

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Basic setup complete. Stuck on: "1. Open a shell." where do i do this?
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June 12, 2014, 02:47:57 AM
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Update on the mining instructions:
Addition of the newest parameters for Wolf's cpuminer:

Code:
sudo sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=X
where X=number_of_threads * 3

updated by David Latapie


Basic setup complete. Stuck on: "1. Open a shell." where do i do this?

Depends, I'm guessing you are running Ubuntu with the standard desktop to get this far and be stuck, in which case click the top most icon on the lefthand side of screen and type "terminal" in the search box - shell is the terminal. If you dont have a desktop and are already typing everything then you are already there Smiley

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