Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again?

[Nemo1024]

I just raed the article 3 times.
It is ****amazing !!!!!! You claim modern russia has no ties with the former red plague but yet:

Russia has as much ties to the red plague, as Georgia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Belarus and later Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, etc. As a matter of fact, Russia had less statehood and less say in the running of its own affairs under the Soviet yoke, than the other republics. Notably Ukraine was one of the most influential republics in the post-Stalin time.

The map: Yes, proving my point and the current wording coming from Lithuania - Lithuania was always the warring, conquering, aggressive type. Maybe you should check the map of Kievan Rus?

As for Norway... and being in YOUR side... I'll be on the side of reason. In Hitler's Germany, there was a large portion of population that did not succumb to the madness and were working against Nazism. Elder Norwegians still remember Soviet Union liberating them town-for-town from the North and to Oslo and are thankful.

Now. An interesting aside on-topic.

Just read in the PS in this article:
http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/08/30/war-or-peace-damning-eye-witness-video-of-mh17-false-flag-plus-strange-failures-of-russian-rockets/

US congress (lc deliberate -LR) just adopted a new, extremely provocative and bellicose law called “The Russian Aggression Prevention Act” or RAPA. I am wondering, when will the world adopt “The US Aggression Prevention Act”? I have been saying all along that it is up to us to tip the scale towards peace. I wouldn’t hope that Washington would choose peace of its own free will.

PS: It you won't allow yourself to be swayed by propaganda and be sent to the Eastern Front as cannon fodder on a trumped-up pretext of stopping "Russian aggression" (and liberating Moscow from Russians in much the same way as West-Ukrainians are being sent to "liberate" Donetsk and Lugansk from the Russian population), then I will be on your side...

[powganima]

get a life.  ebola aint shitt.  get somehting real about which to worry,  you with no life.  get a life.

crazy dubm

I just raed the article 3 times.
It is ****amazing !!!!!! You claim modern russia has no ties with the former red plague but yet:

NATO has been deploying its forces to its closest territories to the Russian border to counter the alleged threat posed by Russia to the former Soviet Baltic republics.

Should I highlight it in bold and red to see the communist propaganda there?
They haven't used the name of the countries even once , they stated ... those were russian territories that are supposed to be ours.

Who is bringing back the past? Seems like the the Soviet Union is back at full power.

No they haven't - they stated the facts - those countries ARE former Soviet Republics. The keyword here is: former. By the way, politicians from those particular republics were pretty high up in the Soviet hierarchy, deciding the fate of both SU and Russia. So?

If we talk about former.....
Where is the Lithuanian border?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/LithuaniaHistory.png/800px-LithuaniaHistory.png


Clinging to the past too much ?  Why not revert to this past ?

ps.
Would love to see your answer on the living in Norway question...

[unpure]

First, economic sanction.

If that doesn't work, which doesn't work based on Russia responds, then military confrontation.

[moonlight14]

if western Russia, the Russian embargo will stop supplying gas to western

[niothor]

if western Russia, the Russian embargo will stop supplying gas to western

And in 3 months Russians will starve to death as oil and gas make 60% of their economy.
90% of medicine comes from the west , 70% of cars come from the west. 90% of passengers planes come from the west.
Half of the drilling equipment comes from the Netherlands and Germany.

[fsb4000]

if western Russia, the Russian embargo will stop supplying gas to western

And in 3 months Russians will starve to death as oil and gas make 60% of their economy.
90% of medicine comes from the west , 70% of cars come from the west. 90% of passengers planes come from the west.
Half of the drilling equipment comes from the Netherlands and Germany.

so unrealistic

[niothor]

if western Russia, the Russian embargo will stop supplying gas to western

And in 3 months Russians will starve to death as oil and gas make 60% of their economy.
90% of medicine comes from the west , 70% of cars come from the west. 90% of passengers planes come from the west.
Half of the drilling equipment comes from the Netherlands and Germany.

so unrealistic

Barneycoin in at 37
Price have gone up to 30% in some parts of Russia.
Inflation is at 8% from the 4% anticipated
Economic growth predictions have gone to 0.5-1 from 2.5 percent last year.
Russian budget was made considering 115$ price of oil which is currently below 100.
Rosneft asks for 40 billion loan from the government.
Aeroflot is asking for government help after losing 52 millions $ in the first semester.


Wait till the news about the SWIFT will take their toll on the markets.

[fsb4000]

We lived almost 10 years with 215% refinancing rate. This is nothing compared with the current sanctions. We got such an experience of survival in 199x years that current sanctions are simply laugh. And we now have the BRICS among friends. Isolating Russia equal  isolating more than 50% of the world. Good luck with it 

[niothor]

We lived almost 10 years with 215% refinancing rate. This is nothing compared with the current sanctions. We got such an experience of survival in 199x years that current sanctions are simply laugh. And we now have the BRICS among friends. Isolating Russia equal  isolating more than 50% of the world. Good luck with it 

Be careful when choosing your friends.
Brics.... with the 25% hiv infected South Africa , Brazil who had had to take money out of the health budget to host the world cup , India which is a mess of it's own right now and China who depends so much on the west that might come to back stab you.

[Nemo1024]

I think it best we let niothor live in his illusions. Russia can make its all, well, everything, but it best operates under stress. So these sanctions are to be thanked for kick-starting that dormant potential and waking Russia from its false state of security as an "equal partner" to the West, than now shows its true colours.

[Balthazar]

And in 3 months Russians will starve to death as oil and gas make 60% of their economy.

Really?

[Nemo1024]

if western Russia, the Russian embargo will stop supplying gas to western

And in 3 months Russians will starve to death as oil and gas make 60% of their economy.
90% of medicine comes from the west , 70% of cars come from the west. 90% of passengers planes come from the west.
Half of the drilling equipment comes from the Netherlands and Germany.

Btw, I am not disputing your numbers outright - they might be close to the mark. I am calling for illusion your view that this is going to stay like this forever. The reason for these numbers lies in the "wild" 90s, when, thanks to the American minders, Yeltsin-headed bureaucracy was passing law after law hampering and closing Russian agriculture and industry - after all it was cheaper to by from the West, the US advisors said. This needs to change.

[niothor]

I think it best we let niothor live in his illusions. Russia can make its all, well, everything, but it best operates under stress. So these sanctions are to be thanked for kick-starting that dormant potential and waking Russia from its false state of security as an "equal partner" to the West, than now shows its true colours.

niothor is looking for personal vendetta   he soon will be joining his Romanian Panzer tank division and will liberate Moldova and Ukraine it is probably a good thing they keep him in Romania  

the problem with sanctions is that they will most certainly affect Russian economy, you can't be isolated and prosper, it is a global market

Love how you twist my posts.

Nemo can confirm that I have said at least three times I'm against the unification between Moldova and Romania in the current state both countries are.

Second , I Told you I don't care about who gets killed in Ukraine , the whole thing is so stupid and the guys holding the power there are beyond psychiatric help. Both rebels and Ukrainians.

And about my decision of joining the army if another russian invasion comes , don't you think it's normal? What will you do if your country gets invaded? Hide under you bed with your bitcoin wallet?

[Nemo1024]

I think it best we let niothor live in his illusions. Russia can make its all, well, everything, but it best operates under stress. So these sanctions are to be thanked for kick-starting that dormant potential and waking Russia from its false state of security as an "equal partner" to the West, than now shows its true colours.

niothor is looking for personal vendetta   he soon will be joining his Romanian Panzer tank division and will liberate Moldova and Ukraine it is probably a good thing they keep him in Romania  

the problem with sanctions is that they will most certainly affect Russian economy, you can't be isolated and prosper, it is a global market

Love how you twist my posts.

Nemo can confirm that I have said at least three times I'm against the unification between Moldova and Romania in the current state both countries are.

Second , I Told you I don't care about who gets killed in Ukraine , the whole thing is so stupid and the guys holding the power there are beyond psychiatric help. Both rebels and Ukrainians.

And about my decision of joining the army if another russian invasion comes , don't you think it's normal? What will you do if your country gets invaded? Hide under you bed with your bitcoin wallet?

1. Yes, can confirm that.  

2. Agree with you there, though the freedom fighters are more sane - they are defending their land.

3. If Russia invaded Romania, you'd be fully correct in joining the resistance, and I'd be the first saying to you to do it. However, as long as Putin in in power, you'd be waiting long for Russia to invade anything.

PS: Niothor, my return question, which is more likely to need answering in the current climate is: will you be joining forces when/if Brussels and the Belgians ask you to invaded Ukraine and possibly Russia under the pretext of preventing "Russian aggression" by the means of pre-emptive aggression? During WWII Romanian forces already invaded Ukraine, then part of the Soviet Union, and were rather brutal in Odessa and around doing public executions of civilians in retaliation for partisan resistance, without much prompting from Germany. If we forget for a moment that Odessa was founded by Ekaterina, by Russia, and say it's Ukraine, will you (meaning Romanians) be again invading Ukraine and going to Odessa in tanks?

[mladen00]

We lived almost 10 years with 215% refinancing rate. This is nothing compared with the current sanctions. We got such an experience of survival in 199x years that current sanctions are simply laugh. And we now have the BRICS among friends. Isolating Russia equal  isolating more than 50% of the world. Good luck with it 

Be careful when choosing your friends.
Brics.... with the 25% hiv infected South Africa , Brazil who had had to take money out of the health budget to host the world cup , India which is a mess of it's own right now and China who depends so much on the west that might come to back stab you.

Qatar, Saudi Arabia are better friends countries?

[mladen00]

The problem with USA is that USA (politics) think's they are some kind of superior nation.
Who are they (exporter' of demokracy to Syria, Lybia, Irak, Afganistan, Sudan, Palstina, Cuba,
Venezuela...........etc)?

Hungry peoples from europe, and asia who came like imperators on N/S america and kill
native peoples, bring slaves............
Now they have peoples who lives in reservations!!!!
Usa doesn't have democracy; they have 2 ''communist'' party.
They does't have social medical care
but they have petrodollars, and their imperialism,nwo,chemtrails, gmo junk food...

I hope BRICS countries will leave USD, ant that is the key to multipolar world

[WhatTheGox]

russia alone would get owned by the west

[mladen00]

Meanwhile, and despite Russia repeatedly saying that the conflict in Ukraine is an internal civil war, the president of... Lithuania stated today that there is a war between Russia and Ukraine and by extension with the whole of Europe.

Quote: "Because Russia is at war with Ukraine, it is at war with a country that badly wants a tight integration with EU and thus Russia is at war with EU. Europe must help Ukraine in defending its land and its people. Ukraine is fighting today in the name of all Europeans."

http://www.bfm.ru/news/270986

Never mind 820.000 refugees and Ukrainian military that fled to Russia. Can you imagine British fleeing to Germany during WWII?

This is very dangerous rhetoric: she de-facto declares war on Russia on behalf of the whole Europe. What is ironic, is that both Russia, Lithuania and Ukraine are par of Europe, Eastern Europe, but still - so Europe declares a war on itself, while the only one leaning back with the pop-corn will be the US...

WWIII, here we come. The next step: EU/NATO launching a pre-emptive attack against Russia under the above pretext.

So, any Europeans on this forum - did you know that you are already at war with Russia, according to Lithuania (who are firmly under the US thumb)? Are you ready to die for Ukraine, for Poroshenko and his US-given right to decide which people are first-class, and which can be genocided to make space for the interests Dutch Shell and American oil magnates?

WWI was started under the pretext of Serbia.
WWII was started under the pretext of Poland.
WWIII is being started under the pretext of Ukraine.

It seems that Russia once again will be called upon to perform the thankless task of ending yet another war, imposed on it from the West...  

true
USA need's III WW;

+1

[deisik]

if western Russia, the Russian embargo will stop supplying gas to western

And in 3 months Russians will starve to death as oil and gas make 60% of their economy.
90% of medicine comes from the west , 70% of cars come from the west. 90% of passengers planes come from the west.
Half of the drilling equipment comes from the Netherlands and Germany.

Do they eat medicine, cars and passenger planes (regarding your words that Russians will starve to death)? You also seem to be forgetting that Europe would be freezing but for Russian gas (and the winter is coming, yeah). So it cuts both ways, and you don't know which side would cut sharper and deeper...

[Nemo1024]

Looks like Russia is going to make a symmetric response to the US' "Russian aggression prevention act 2266".

It is suggested to include USA as the main adversary in Russia's military doctrine, designating it as the target for delivery of a preventive nuclear strike:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1409743376