I give up

[freebit13]

Well Veronica obviously isn't that poor, considering:

This was my sure thing so I could stay at home with my daughter

If anyone's going to go around donating bitcoin, or anything for that matter, I'm sure there are a lot of other people who need it more.

[dreamspark]

Well Veronica obviously isn't that poor, considering:

This was my sure thing so I could stay at home with my daughter

If anyone's going to go around donating bitcoin, or anything for that matter, I'm sure there are a lot of other people who need it more.

How do you know that she doesn't live in a poor country and needs say $20,000 to stay at home with her daughter for a few years? She then bought a few coins with her life savings because people kept saying its going straight to $5k. Some objectivity helps.

[oda.krell]

Well Veronica obviously isn't that poor, considering:

This was my sure thing so I could stay at home with my daughter

If anyone's going to go around donating bitcoin, or anything for that matter, I'm sure there are a lot of other people who need it more.

I'm sure there are. I humbly suggest you start looking into what you can do for them.

[Raystonn]

I'm willing to bet she's more than a little ashamed, and probably upset by some of the words and ideas thrown at her.  If she were to reply, someone would probably accuse her of being a panhandler or a fraud.  The only way to verify the latter is not the case would be to ask for personal information.  Do you expect her to give that out, especially considering the treatment here?  I'd be rather paranoid myself.

[freebit13]

Well Veronica obviously isn't that poor, considering:

This was my sure thing so I could stay at home with my daughter

If anyone's going to go around donating bitcoin, or anything for that matter, I'm sure there are a lot of other people who need it more.

I'm sure there are. I humbly suggest you start looking into what you can do for them.

Not to worry, I already am.

[oda.krell]

I'm willing to bet she's more than a little ashamed, and probably upset by some of the words and ideas thrown at her.  If she were to reply, someone would probably accuse her of being a panhandler or a fraud.  The only way to verify the latter is not the case would be to ask for personal information.  Do you expect her to give that out, especially considering the treatment here?  I'd be rather paranoid myself.

I thought of that, that's why I asked her to PM me, so it's at least not going to happen "on stage". But, yes, if she contacts me, I will ask for some personal information to at least make sure the story checks out by and large. I understand that's not ideal, but necessary I believe.

I want to help her out because she sounded seriously distraught, but I'm not allowing myself to be taken advantage of either. In fact, one could argue that preventing the latter is what enables the former.

[bitcoinsrus]

I'm willing to bet she's more than a little ashamed, and probably upset by some of the words and ideas thrown at her.  If she were to reply, someone would probably accuse her of being a panhandler or a fraud.  The only way to verify the latter is not the case would be to ask for personal information.  Do you expect her to give that out, especially considering the treatment here?  I'd be rather paranoid myself.

I thought of that, that's why I asked her to PM me, so it's at least not going to happen "on stage". But, yes, if she contacts me, I will ask for some personal information to at least make sure the story checks out by and large. I understand that's not ideal, but necessary I believe.

I want to help her out because she sounded seriously distraught, but I'm not allowing myself to be taken advantage of either. In fact, one could argue that preventing the latter is what enables the former.

She never logged back on to bitcoin talk since she first posted this.  She might or might not log back on.  All the best veronica

[kireinaha]

I wonder if everyone would make such an effort to reach out if we didn't perceive Veronica to be a female. It's very big hearted of everyone to look out for the newbie, but I see this kind of sad tale on a pretty regular basis in the world of bitcoin and the typical response is, "well, dude, you shouldn't have invested more than you were willing to lose." But in those cases, they didn't have feminine names or give a sob story about wanting to stay home with their daughter.

Just saying guys, you could be getting manipulated here by your natural sense of chivalry.

[bitcoinsrus]

I wonder if everyone would make such an effort to reach out if we didn't perceive Veronica to be a female. It's very big hearted of everyone to look out for the newbie, but I see this kind of sad tale on a pretty regular basis in the world of bitcoin and the typical response is, "well, dude, you shouldn't have invested more than you were willing to lose." But in those cases, they didn't have feminine names or give a sob story about wanting to stay home with their daughter.

Just saying guys, you could be getting manipulated here by your natural sense of chivalry.

When this post first came out, everyone (including me) was thinking that she should have held (which will probably come to fruition).

Later on in the post, people just replied back and forth to each other (this post caught fire for some reason)

It wasn't until the last few pages that I noticed people start to feel bad for her (as well as I).

I do not think it has to do with her being a woman (which might not even be true = g.i.r.l - guy in real life)

This could be manipulation but I do not think it is.  She has not logged on since this post and has not solicited (which most would not give more than a small tip anyway - after asking for blockchain proof or something)

[dreamspark]

I wonder if everyone would make such an effort to reach out if we didn't perceive Veronica to be a female. It's very big hearted of everyone to look out for the newbie, but I see this kind of sad tale on a pretty regular basis in the world of bitcoin and the typical response is, "well, dude, you shouldn't have invested more than you were willing to lose." But in those cases, they didn't have feminine names or give a sob story about wanting to stay home with their daughter.

Just saying guys, you could be getting manipulated here by your natural sense of chivalry.

How do you know the people feeling sorry for her aren't females themselves ?

[Raystonn]

I'm willing to bet she's more than a little ashamed, and probably upset by some of the words and ideas thrown at her.  If she were to reply, someone would probably accuse her of being a panhandler or a fraud.  The only way to verify the latter is not the case would be to ask for personal information.  Do you expect her to give that out, especially considering the treatment here?  I'd be rather paranoid myself.

I thought of that, that's why I asked her to PM me, so it's at least not going to happen "on stage". But, yes, if she contacts me, I will ask for some personal information to at least make sure the story checks out by and large. I understand that's not ideal, but necessary I believe.

I want to help her out because she sounded seriously distraught, but I'm not allowing myself to be taken advantage of either. In fact, one could argue that preventing the latter is what enables the former.

Noble, but I don't know what kind of proof you could ask for that cannot be manipulated.  Even if she showed up at your front door, there's no way to prove her story.  It requires some amount of trust in her.  Alternatively, you could poll everyone here to get distributed consensus on her validity.

[oda.krell]

I wonder if everyone would make such an effort to reach out if we didn't perceive Veronica to be a female. It's very big hearted of everyone to look out for the newbie, but I see this kind of sad tale on a pretty regular basis in the world of bitcoin and the typical response is, "well, dude, you shouldn't have invested more than you were willing to lose." But in those cases, they didn't have feminine names or give a sob story about wanting to stay home with their daughter.

Just saying guys, you could be getting manipulated here by your natural sense of chivalry.

For me at least, little to do with the fact that she's a woman, but a lot to do with the fact that she seems to take care of a child. Makes some sense, no?

I'm willing to bet she's more than a little ashamed, and probably upset by some of the words and ideas thrown at her.  If she were to reply, someone would probably accuse her of being a panhandler or a fraud.  The only way to verify the latter is not the case would be to ask for personal information.  Do you expect her to give that out, especially considering the treatment here?  I'd be rather paranoid myself.

I thought of that, that's why I asked her to PM me, so it's at least not going to happen "on stage". But, yes, if she contacts me, I will ask for some personal information to at least make sure the story checks out by and large. I understand that's not ideal, but necessary I believe.

I want to help her out because she sounded seriously distraught, but I'm not allowing myself to be taken advantage of either. In fact, one could argue that preventing the latter is what enables the former.

Noble, but I don't know what kind of proof you could ask for that cannot be manipulated.  Even if she showed up at your front door, there's no way to prove her story.  It requires some amount of trust in her.  Alternatively, you could poll everyone here to get distributed consensus on her validity. ;)

You're not a 4chan (or, more benign, randomactsofpizza) regular, are you :D A picture of her and her daughter in their living room. For all I care, with her faces blurred out. For all I care, sent to the board mod, not myself. That's all. I'm not mortally afraid to be taken advantage of, I just don't want to be the easiest kind of target.

[nickenburg]

My friends called me crazy when I told them it's a sure thing.  The shame is just as bad as the lost money.  So I quit.  You guys win.  Coins sold. 

Dont listen to your friends, if I wouldnt have listened to them, I wouldve still tought that bitcoin would never go higher then 50$ back in the days.
And i would proberly bought some back then, If you believe in bitcoin you should keep it for a few more years, and then see what the price is.
Now you sold them and maybe in a few months they are back up at 1000 then you will feel stupid for sure!

[balu2]

the true moral of the story is: Bitcoin is not for women/girls

tell your wife to catch a falling knive in a flashcrash (really profitable trade). She will scream at you 'SELL' at those occasions. True story. Don't let women influence your trades, they generally suck at trading. Only very few women maybe can do well with btc. I know women. It's true. Too emotional, bad at math, no patience - really not good for trading volatile stuff like crypto. They are better with the shopping  

[Spaceman_Spiff]

the true moral of the story is: Bitcoin is not for women/girls

tell your wife to catch a falling knive in a flashcrash (really profitable trade). She will scream at you 'SELL' at those occasions. True story. Don't let women influence your trades, they generally suck at trading. Only very few women maybe can do well with btc. I know women. It's true. Too emotional, bad at math, no patience - really not good for trading volatile stuff like crypto. They are better with the shopping  

I think this post made you the favorite poster of every woman on this forum.  I expect medals will be awarded.

[Skele]

Weak hands + investing more than he can afford to lose + noob at trading.

First i have never bought at 900 with such a bear market sentiment, many people bought at that price but to hold into them for months not to regret just because the price go ro 400.

But buy now again! If not you will feel even more stupid

[Shallow]

Should have held on Veronica We are heading all the way up now

[Swordsoffreedom]

Should have held on Veronica We are heading all the way up now

Yep looks like we are now emerging from the bottom so I guess we can say this was the bellwater of the lows
Also meaning that if she waited one more month she would have been fine
Two more and she would have made more
Three and who knows

[bitleif]

I wonder if everyone would make such an effort to reach out if we didn't perceive Veronica to be a female. It's very big hearted of everyone to look out for the newbie, but I see this kind of sad tale on a pretty regular basis in the world of bitcoin and the typical response is, "well, dude, you shouldn't have invested more than you were willing to lose." But in those cases, they didn't have feminine names or give a sob story about wanting to stay home with their daughter.

That's probably true, but it swings both ways. Women typically also get a lot more flak when they mess up, especially in guy-dominated environments. Our reactions to gender (and race/age/looks/social status) are on the whole extremely irrational.

(My original rather harsh, pre-caffeinated comment OTOH was an allergic reaction to people who don't take responsibility for their own faults and instead blame others. Reading the OP again though I think I read too much into it, so if Veronica ever reads this I apologize. It's always a shame when someone gives up on bitcoin because of a short-term loss.)

[bitleif]

the true moral of the story is: Bitcoin is not for women/girls

tell your wife to catch a falling knive in a flashcrash (really profitable trade). She will scream at you 'SELL' at those occasions. True story. Don't let women influence your trades, they generally suck at trading. Only very few women maybe can do well with btc. I know women. It's true. Too emotional, bad at math, no patience - really not good for trading volatile stuff like crypto. They are better with the shopping  

True, trading is not for (most) women. It's not for most guys either. Guys on average tend to like risk and gambling a lot more, but that doesn't mean they are actually any good at it. Also, people who argue guys aren't emotional haven't seen the average sports fan.

Most people who are good at trading get so from experience, not from inborn talent.