Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode?

[devphp]

Like I said, check the numbers, then come back, 100 nxt nodes was many moons ago.

[atoni]

Like I said, check the numbers, then come back, 100 nxt nodes was many moons ago.

Yeah, I said now is probably 150.

[devphp]

Don't make guesses The only way to find out is to set up a node, set allowed max. connections to a very high number and then leave it running for a few days, you will see a lot more peers than that or than Ripple, but I won't tell you how many, you must do the homework yourself

[atoni]

Now Ripple introduced Smart Contracts https://ripple.com/blog/smart-oracles-building-business-logic-with-smart-contracts/ wait till Nxt copies that and gives it some fancy name like "von Clevernous of Contractorous" lol

Yes, while Ripple is still talking about the concept of Smart Contracts, Nxt has done the coding and is implementing the Smart Contracts - https://nxtforum.org/smart-contracts/express-your-wish-(smart-contracts)/

Actually ripple was in smart contracts talk 2 years ago (you can probably still find articles with jed about it). What they did is made it user friends for any developer to use on ripple.

[U]

Ripple and BitShares networks are:
servers (called validators in Ripple and delegates in BitShares) + clients.

NXT is a peer-to-peer network, that means every node is both a server and a client.

Two different approaches.
Ripple and BitShares are distributed networks.
NXT is a truely decentralized p2p network.

That's the point.

[atoni]

Don't make guesses The only way to find out is to set up a node, set allowed max. connections to a very high number and then leave it running for a few days, you will see a lot more peers than that or than Ripple, but I won't tell you how many, you must do the homework yourself

Haha, so its not true then? how many peers are running it? you know I wont set up nxt node, I bought next at 20 mil mkcap and sold at 80, and will maybe buy again but even then I will probably keep them on exchange like I did before.

[U]

Now Ripple introduced Smart Contracts https://ripple.com/blog/smart-oracles-building-business-logic-with-smart-contracts/ wait till Nxt copies that and gives it some fancy name like "von Clevernous of Contractorous" lol

Yes, while Ripple is still talking about the concept of Smart Contracts, Nxt has done the coding and is implementing the Smart Contracts - https://nxtforum.org/smart-contracts/express-your-wish-(smart-contracts)/

Actually ripple was in smart contracts talk 2 years ago (you can probably still find articles with jed about it). What they did is made it user friends for any developer to use on ripple.

Do you understand centralized,distributed,and decentralized?

[strspeed]

Thanks for the help guys. Both coins look awesome! I think I will invest in both.

Here is where I got the idea from the copyright thing mate

https://ripple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2023

Let me know if FUD or no.

[EvilDave]

Don't make guesses The only way to find out is to set up a node, set allowed max. connections to a very high number and then leave it running for a few days, you will see a lot more peers than that or than Ripple, but I won't tell you how many, you must do the homework yourself

Haha, so its not true then? how many peers are running it? you know I wont set up nxt node, I bought next at 20 mil mkcap and sold at 80, and will maybe buy again but even then I will probably keep them on exchange like I did before.

Max number of peers I've ever seen has been around the 1200 mark......

@strspeed...probably a good idea, diversity in your portfolio is a good thing, and apart from Ripples unfortunate tendency to employ dodgy aristocrats, they are probably a sound investment.
(But NXT is better.... )

[Tobo]

Now Ripple introduced Smart Contracts https://ripple.com/blog/smart-oracles-building-business-logic-with-smart-contracts/ wait till Nxt copies that and gives it some fancy name like "von Clevernous of Contractorous" lol

Yes, while Ripple is still talking about the concept of Smart Contracts, Nxt has done the coding and is implementing the Smart Contracts - https://nxtforum.org/smart-contracts/express-your-wish-(smart-contracts)/

Actually ripple was in smart contracts talk 2 years ago (you can probably still find articles with jed about it). What they did is made it user friends for any developer to use on ripple.

Ripple did not invent smart contracts either - http://szabo.best.vwh.net/smart_contracts_idea.html

Nxt did not claim that they invented all the features they have except Transparent Forge consensus mechanism. They are innovative in term of the Transparent Forge and the overall architecture of a new crypto.

[atoni]

Now Ripple introduced Smart Contracts https://ripple.com/blog/smart-oracles-building-business-logic-with-smart-contracts/ wait till Nxt copies that and gives it some fancy name like "von Clevernous of Contractorous" lol

Yes, while Ripple is still talking about the concept of Smart Contracts, Nxt has done the coding and is implementing the Smart Contracts - https://nxtforum.org/smart-contracts/express-your-wish-(smart-contracts)/

Actually ripple was in smart contracts talk 2 years ago (you can probably still find articles with jed about it). What they did is made it user friends for any developer to use on ripple.

Ripple did not invent smart contracts either - http://szabo.best.vwh.net/smart_contracts_idea.html

Nxt did not claim that they invented all the features they have except Transparent Forge consensus mechanism. They are innovative in term of the Transparent Forge and the overall architecture of a new crypto.

I didnt say ripple invented smart contracts, I said introduced. Smart contracts are used in numerous applications already for a several years now.

[atoni]

Thanks for the help guys. Both coins look awesome! I think I will invest in both.

Here is where I got the idea from the copyright thing mate

https://ripple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2023

Let me know if FUD or no.

I see, I dont know if its fud or not but I dont think you can copyright words. Although I dont know what can be trade marked or copyrighted, like in case of apple a couple of posts ago I dont think its possible to trade mark a word. Then apple would sue every cook book But I am not expert in that field (I am not expert in ripple either, I just started to use it when bitinstant got closed) but to me common sense says that you can use word apple freely. Maybe problem becomes if you use word apple with their logo on products? I dont know much about that sorry, if its possible to trade mark or copyright words I will copyright all words and sue anyone that writes anything lol

[atoni]

Now Ripple introduced Smart Contracts https://ripple.com/blog/smart-oracles-building-business-logic-with-smart-contracts/ wait till Nxt copies that and gives it some fancy name like "von Clevernous of Contractorous" lol

Yes, while Ripple is still talking about the concept of Smart Contracts, Nxt has done the coding and is implementing the Smart Contracts - https://nxtforum.org/smart-contracts/express-your-wish-(smart-contracts)/

Actually ripple was in smart contracts talk 2 years ago (you can probably still find articles with jed about it). What they did is made it user friends for any developer to use on ripple.

Do you understand centralized,distributed,and decentralized?

I do, there is picture a couple of posts before that is pretty much self explanatory. It shows exactly that ripple is not centralized.

EDIT: just saw that picture is from you, so its self explanatory.

[atoni]

Don't make guesses The only way to find out is to set up a node, set allowed max. connections to a very high number and then leave it running for a few days, you will see a lot more peers than that or than Ripple, but I won't tell you how many, you must do the homework yourself

Haha, so its not true then? how many peers are running it? you know I wont set up nxt node, I bought next at 20 mil mkcap and sold at 80, and will maybe buy again but even then I will probably keep them on exchange like I did before.

Max number of peers I've ever seen has been around the 1200 mark......

@strspeed...probably a good idea, diversity in your portfolio is a good thing, and apart from Ripples unfortunate tendency to employ dodgy aristocrats, they are probably a sound investment.
(But NXT is better.... )

I hope all cryptos increase, entire crpyto world including bitcoin is still in speculation mode and far from any usage, so if people dont make money but lose they go out telling extremely bad stories which hurts crypto a lot. I remember when bitcoin dropped from 32 to 2, then it was not such a big deal because this forum was pretty much only place with any bitcoin talk, but now if it falls from 620 to 10 it will probably cause significant losses and extremely bad publicity.

Although in reality, for crypto to be used for transfer of value (and going around the middle man), price doesnt matter that much because you only care for it for 30 minutes while bitcoins get transfered. But since we are far from that usage and speculation is still main growth vehicle it matters a lot when people lose.

[EvilDave]

I think some of us are missing the point here: all of the features of both NXT and Ripple are open-source concepts, anyone can implement them and in many cases it's kind of difficult to figure out who originally came up with a particular concept. So to say that x is copying y is a fairly pointless game, like saying that Ford are copying Nissan by putting wheels on their cars......

NXT is revolutionary not because of any specific feature set, but because NXT has been designed from the ground up to be a platform for other applications, not just a currency.
This means that if you can come up with a concept, you can probably figure out a way to implement it on NXT.
 
Just take a quick look at the list of projects that NXT is already supporting:
https://nxtforum.org/nxt-projects/

And we haven't even got on to the features list/road-map yet....

[nutildah]

I think some of us are missing the point here: all of the features of both NXT and Ripple are open-source concepts, anyone can implement them and in many cases it's kind of difficult to figure out who originally came up with a particular concept. So to say that x is copying y is a fairly pointless game, like saying that Ford are copying Nissan by putting wheels on their cars......

NXT is revolutionary not because of any specific feature set, but because NXT has been designed from the ground up to be a platform for other applications, not just a currency.
This means that if you can come up with a concept, you can probably figure out a way to implement it on NXT.
 
Just take a quick look at the list of projects that NXT is already supporting:
https://nxtforum.org/nxt-projects/

And we haven't even got on to the features list/road-map yet....

You guys are letting BlueMeanie be a moderator? Why?

[EvilDave]

BM was to be the lead dev on Virtual Corporations, (afaik), before he went off his meds and decided that NXT was the work of Satan.

[nutildah]

BM was to be the lead dev on Virtual Corporations, (afaik), before he went off his meds and decided that NXT was the work of Satan.

He didn't have a change of heart and come back? Its good to know he's still gone, forum makes it look like he currently has a role there.

I'm pretty certain he was behind that cheesy, mildly successful DDoS attack a month or so back.

[EvilDave]

Nope. he's still out...and staying out. Don't think anyone will have him, given his track record.

[nutildah]

Well NXT just cracked the 8 so it hasn't gone down. Hope I didn't just jinx it.