I don't get it, which scrypt ASIC can you buy right now?

[jjj0923]

Can someone tell me how long do those ASICs last? and why?

perhaps years - depends on quality of manufacturing...

http://iroi.seu.edu.cn/books/asics/Book2/CH01/CH01.htm

[gilad215]

Can someone tell me how long do those ASICs last? and why?

perhaps years - depends on quality of manufacturing...

http://iroi.seu.edu.cn/books/asics/Book2/CH01/CH01.htm

but i heard a lot of the BTC asics last for a couple of months, why isn't it the same here?

[-droid-]

Can someone tell me how long do those ASICs last? and why?

perhaps years - depends on quality of manufacturing...

http://iroi.seu.edu.cn/books/asics/Book2/CH01/CH01.htm

but i heard a lot of the BTC asics last for a couple of months, why isn't it the same here?

its just all about ROI... these asic's lose value quick after they are released and in the market

[Equate]

It's all about number game right now .Lightning asic sold 75 MH for 12K and now they are selling 90 MH for same price .

[-droid-]

It's all about number game right now .Lightning asic sold 75 MH for 12K and now they are selling 90 MH for same price .

I dont think theyve shipped any yet. they just have prototypes and claiming they are in stock

[cryptodevil]

Which is the best one that will ship immediately, as in today.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=578875.msg6491085#msg6491085 is taking delivery of Innosilicon units over the next few days. They work out per Mh very slightly cheaper than Zeus too.

Not exactly shipping *today* to customers, but as close as you'll get at this time.

[Equate]

It's all about number game right now .Lightning asic sold 75 MH for 12K and now they are selling 90 MH for same price .

I dont think theyve shipped any yet. they just have prototypes and claiming they are in stock

If you check their official thread , they have already shipped about 86 MH miners already .

[-droid-]

It's all about number game right now .Lightning asic sold 75 MH for 12K and now they are selling 90 MH for same price .

I dont think theyve shipped any yet. they just have prototypes and claiming they are in stock

If you check their official thread , they have already shipped about 86 MH miners already .

forum members have already received them?

[Equate]

It's all about number game right now .Lightning asic sold 75 MH for 12K and now they are selling 90 MH for same price .

I dont think theyve shipped any yet. they just have prototypes and claiming they are in stock

If you check their official thread , they have already shipped about 86 MH miners already .

forum members have already received them?

asiabtc , the owner of Lightning asic has good reputation and has always delivered the  product .He posted that he shipped 86 MH miners as of today , so I believe pictures and videos of working miner will be posted soon as soon as they are received .

[jjj0923]

the zeusminer seems like a better deal

18mh for 3k with 100% (now80%) free cloud hashing upgrade and shipping May31

is there thread someone online where people who have placed orders are talking about this? I'd like to follow it.

there's also no explanation on their website of how long you get the extra 80% from their hosting service.

it's a toss up for me...

I have faith in hashra at this point and they're offering a 10% discount right now which brings the price per mh to $166 for their 15mhs unit and the zeusminer also turns out to be $166/mhs. They've been in business a while and are offering a full refund is they don't meet their delivery date - zeusminer on the other hand says they're ahead of schedule but dance around the delivery date if you read their progress report.

in any event - information at this point is good information. - thanks

[jjj0923]

by the way - Zeusminer is non committal on the timeframe for the extra 80%

just an fyi:

Our data center is under construction now. For the timeline, as soon as something comes, we will put updates on our website. Stay tuned.

Best Regards,

--
ZeusMiner Customer Service Team
http://zeusminer.com

[jjj0923]

Which is the best one that will ship immediately, as in today.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=578875.msg6491085#msg6491085 is taking delivery of Innosilicon units over the next few days. They work out per Mh very slightly cheaper than Zeus too.

Not exactly shipping *today* to customers, but as close as you'll get at this time.

I've negotiated with that guy in the past - he's screwed a few people in the past but it appears as though someone else is involved in that deal also who may be a little more legitimate.

if you check that guys history on the forum pcfli you'll find it's fairly tarnished.... people not getting equipment they paid for - although I have no doubt the machine their talking about is real. It's seem pretty 'cobbled' from what I could see in the video and it's priced awefully high when uou compare it with Mining Asics Units which granted ar two months away from you get 3 times the hashing power for the same price.

their 90 mhs unit is : $133 per mhs

Maining Asics : $48 per mhs

I think i'll wait

[jjj0923]

It's all about number game right now .Lightning asic sold 75 MH for 12K and now they are selling 90 MH for same price .

I dont think theyve shipped any yet. they just have prototypes and claiming they are in stock

If you check their official thread , they have already shipped about 86 MH miners already .

forum members have already received them?

if you read the thread no one has receive them - but I have no doubt they're real - they're just not a GREAT DEAL

Until someone comes out with a unit that's under $50/mhs for the smaller miners who can't afford the $8K, $10k or $12k unit we are stuck with having to pay about $150/Mhs and no one has an answer yet.

[cryptodevil]

If you check that guys history on the forum pcfli you'll find it's fairly tarnished.... people not getting equipment they paid for -

Really, do you have a link to anything concrete? All I can find are minor issues that are resolved fairly quickly.

[jjj0923]

If you check that guys history on the forum pcfli you'll find it's fairly tarnished.... people not getting equipment they paid for -

Really, do you have a link to anything concrete? All I can find are minor issues that are resolved fairly quickly.

get in touch with forum member: nitehawk

I can see from the thread they you're spending money - but it appears as though you're going through the other guy Mr. Li - so that's good. My recommendation is that your squeeze pcfli for every penny because he will negotiate and negotiate BIG TIME - he's got a lot of room in his pricing. I know that from experience. Squeeze all these guys - their markup is HUGE!!!

make a rediculously low offer and see what happens - the worst that can happen is that you get turned down, but at least it's a starting point for negotiations.

best of luck to you

ps: if you need a contact in china that can deal direct with the factory that builds these things I have one there. I had an intern from U of P Wharton School working for me a few years ago and he lives in China and told me that he'd be happy to contact any of the factories that build these things are get the bottom line price. I'll connect you with him on Facebook if you're interested - just PM me - I want to make sure my forum brethren are not being taken advantage of.

[cryptodevil]

Thanks, I'll take that into consideration.

Without wanting to steer this thread too off-topic, I'd have to say that the question is not necessarily about who is going to deliver first, but what is going to be the response of these smaller Chinese vendors to the eventual release of Zeus, Alpha, Fib, KnC and any others that might be delivering in the next few months.

Those companies tend to have a more 'Western' client base because their marketing image is more developed and, therefore, their customers feel a little more comfortable dealing with them than the less-than-well-known Chinese vendors.

The Innosilicon devices are 28nm, they've done a pretty impressive job in bringing that to market so soon. The price of their devices can only go down over time, if they get a good reputation for reliability we may see people dropping their pre-orders from the other companies as the comfort-level with the Chinese distributors increases.

[jjj0923]

Thanks, I'll take that into consideration.

Without wanting to steer this thread too off-topic, I'd have to say that the question is not necessarily about who is going to deliver first, but what is going to be the response of these smaller Chinese vendors to the eventual release of Zeus, Alpha, Fib, KnC and any others that might be delivering in the next few months.

Those companies tend to have a more 'Western' client base because their marketing image is more developed and, therefore, their customers feel a little more comfortable dealing with them than the less-than-well-known Chinese vendors.

The Innosilicon devices are 28nm, they've done a pretty impressive job in bringing that to market so soon. The price of their devices can only go down over time, if they get a good reputation for reliability we may see people dropping their pre-orders from the other companies as the comfort-level with the Chinese distributors increases.

oh - the Chinese will never be left behind in the dust - they'll drop their prices and be competitive - no doubt - hey - competition is good for all of us.

The Innosilicon devices are 28nm, they've done a pretty impressive job in bringing that to market so soon

I absolutely agree and I am sure the guys at KNC Miner and Mining Asics have taken notice.

what gives me a lot of satisfaction is NOW I really know what a unit that can hash this high CAN ACTUALLY BE BUILT! I am sure you feel the same way!

Jeff

[stacksmasher]

Whats wrong with you people? Don't you realize when 100,000Mh/s hits the alt pools it will cause the price of all the alts to crash?

I bet 99% of the alts Fork to SCRYPT-N just to keep from getting destroyed.

I'm looking at their site now.

I'm a little impressed but not super impressed.

I have two Mining Asic Units on order which will give me 250 Mh/s and I expect them by the 2nd week in august. I'm in the first batch and I spent about $11k

so let's divide Cost/Mhs

Mining Asics : $11,000/250 : $44/Mhs

Now I look at these units and their top of the line is $15000 for 90+ MH - let's assume it's 100 MHs for arguments sake - : $15,000/100 : $150/mh

I'll wait the extra 8 weeks for such a huge advantage

Now - let's look at the Gridseed Blades VS their Lunar Lander Warp 2 @ 15 MHs

Blades 6 X $1,400 to get 30 MHs = $8,400 : 8400/30 = $280/Mhs
Lunar Lander Warp 2 : $5,350 : 5350/30 : $178/Mhs

Their Lunar Lander Warp 2 is a good deal and their Lander 1 is a good deal compared to Blades

so for what's available today - their Lander 1 & 2 are good deal - their higher end units are not worth the money when you could wait an extra 6 to 8 weeks and get three times the hashing power for the same money.

I've been in touch with Marc at Mining Asics and the beginning of August is realistic for their first batch of units.

But I think it's cool they've upped the ante - because it's good for all of us who mine scrypt coins and want the best bang for their buck.

[KimNam]

Whats wrong with you people? Don't you realize when 100,000Mh/s hits the alt pools it will cause the price of all the alts to crash?

I bet 99% of the alts Fork to SCRYPT-N just to keep from getting destroyed.

+1 agree
asic scrypt will make ALT price crash
too much asic monster will destroy alt 
need Fork to SCRYPT-N ASAP

[jjj0923]

Whats wrong with you people? Don't you realize when 100,000Mh/s hits the alt pools it will cause the price of all the alts to crash?

I bet 99% of the alts Fork to SCRYPT-N just to keep from getting destroyed.

+1 agree
asic scrypt will make ALT price crash
too much asic monster will destroy alt 
need Fork to SCRYPT-N ASAP

I'm wiling to lay odds that you're wrong...

mining farms didn't crash bitcoin....