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May 02, 2014, 08:06:46 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-foundation-vote-yields-no-new-board-members/

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Bobby Lee, 44
Brock Pierce, 34
Vinny Lingham, 21
Luke Dashjr, 13
Frank Schuil, 12
Jon Holmquist, 12
Jason Tyra, 9
None of the above, 7
Andres Bzurovski, 7
John McDonnell, 6
Clint Ditto, 3
Vytautas Karalevičius, 3
Leon Li, 3
Mohammad Mufti, 2
Henryk Dabrowski, 2
Jay Yeom, 1

...or have they opted to not do their due diligence when they included Brock Pierce on the list?

They already lost two members due to scandals, one of which I love, while the other is French. Now, they're buckin' for adding another to their venerable org covered with taint (double-entendre intended).
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May 02, 2014, 08:11:34 PM
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I don't know who is Brock Pierce, but having Bobby Lee leading the list, I tend to agree with you
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May 02, 2014, 09:03:17 PM
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As far as I'm concerned the Bitcoin Foundation is irrelevant, they only have their name to make people think they are something to do with Bitcoin, it's a bit like how the Federal Reserve uses the word 'Federal' to make people think they're part of the government. Speaking as someone who holds to mainly Anarchist beliefs, they can fuck off, I can see exactly what they're trying to do and they're trying to make some kind of centralised company or group for Bitcoin itself, I'm grateful the devs don't really seem to give a shit and continue to release the code open source.
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May 02, 2014, 09:11:15 PM
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^what he said.
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May 02, 2014, 10:13:08 PM
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Brock Pierce....

-> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590970.0

thanks phinnaeus for putting the links together.
worked through sources for two hours and after doing more research on pierce's past (esp DEN case)
i really despise seeing bitcoin foundation in any way related to this guy.

also found this:
http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/01/30/ige-pierce-debonneville-complaint/

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Lawsuit Against IGE Founder Brock Pierce Alleges Underhanded Dealing at Virtual Property Company

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May 02, 2014, 10:22:18 PM
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dont care really about this foundation, it doesnt matter what they do
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May 02, 2014, 10:53:07 PM
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who gives a shit what they do? dont ever think about this foundation
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May 02, 2014, 10:59:46 PM
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Phinnaeus, wasnt it you that said you would quit from this forum, or am I wrong?

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May 03, 2014, 12:29:54 AM
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Maybe Brock Pierce could give his side of the story (as well as all the other stories) to a budding investigative reporter at bitcoin2014 in Amsterdam, he will be there apparently. Gotta say, it looks pretty bad from where I'm sitting.

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May 03, 2014, 12:35:12 AM
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I really think that the BF should ask prospective board members to disclose any lawsuits they are defending. Unless it is for something like an unpaid speeding ticket then the candidate should be asked to withdraw until their legal matters are settled.

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May 03, 2014, 12:37:22 AM
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What is the situation regarding Mr. Pierce?
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May 03, 2014, 02:32:13 AM
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As chair of the election committee, I can assure you the "foundation" had nothing to do with the results. The results are soley a product of the desires of the 102 industry members that voted. But, you don't need to trust me. Everyone who voted has proof that their ballot wasn't modified...the voters could fully audit the election themselves...by design.

I don't know Brock Pierce, but of course I know _of_ him. You'd have to have had your head in the sand not to.

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May 03, 2014, 02:58:45 AM
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It's funny I've always heard of this foundation but I assumed they Had something to do with bitcoin in terms of PR but I had no idea what they did. And I still don't know. I take it that the debs can do their own thing so I guess prior posters are right maybe we can just ignore them?  Sounds like the members can just bribe voters to get elected.



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May 03, 2014, 03:02:53 AM
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Why do we need a foundation?
We need a distributed organization in front of a distributed enterprise.
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May 03, 2014, 03:50:10 AM
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What is the situation regarding Mr. Pierce?

first have some tabloid articles around the whole DEN case:
http://boingboing.net/2007/11/15/goldfarming-empire-l.html

a capture of the mentioned radar magazine article Nov 2007 covering the connection between Collins-Rector and Pierce's former company IGE:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080418073324/http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2007/11/den_chads_world_marc_collins_rector_1-print.php

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hunterschwarz/mystery-man-at-center-of-alleged-hollywood-sex-ring-has-vani
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bryan-singer-sex-abuse-case-699828

two wired articles on Pierce's career as a whole, DEN case is only briefly touched:
Part 1 "A Drive Through Laurel Canyon With Brock Pierce"
http://archive.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-12/ff_ige_pierce
Part 2 "The Decline and Fall of an Ultra Rich Online Gaming Empire"
http://archive.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-12/ff_ige?currentPage=all
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Debonneville's court filings, meanwhile, revealed that the year before, Pierce had told him that Collins-Rector was blackmailing him, threatening to snarl IGE in litigation that would make it unattractive to investors.

as always take all of this with a grain of salt.

On a second thought i'm not sure what to make of this and if Pierce is still connected with Marc Collins-Rector today.
Regarding the fact that he began working for him at the age of 17 i have to say that i've seen a lot of people bumping into the wrong person during their early lifes.
One has to consider it often takes a long time to shake off the aftermath of these bad influences.
I'm still undecided if this is the case here.
Nevertheless Pierce seems like a dodgy character to me (as many other people involved in btc economy).

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May 03, 2014, 04:34:27 AM
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As chair of the election committee, I can assure you the "foundation" had nothing to do with the results. The results are soley a product of the desires of the 102 industry members that voted. But, you don't need to trust me. Everyone who voted has proof that their ballot wasn't modified...the voters could fully audit the election themselves...by design.

I don't know Brock Pierce, but of course I know _of_ him. You'd have to have had your head in the sand not to.

I'm not questioning the results. I'm questioning as to why he was on the ballot in the first place. As far the latter comment is concern, prior to me posting about Brock Pierce, there were less than a half dozen mentions of his name on this forum, chiefly in mundane posts.
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May 03, 2014, 04:48:39 AM
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What is the situation regarding Mr. Pierce?

first have some tabloid articles around the whole DEN case:
http://boingboing.net/2007/11/15/goldfarming-empire-l.html

a capture of the mentioned radar magazine article Nov 2007 covering the connection between Collins-Rector and Pierce's former company IGE:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080418073324/http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2007/11/den_chads_world_marc_collins_rector_1-print.php

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hunterschwarz/mystery-man-at-center-of-alleged-hollywood-sex-ring-has-vani
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bryan-singer-sex-abuse-case-699828

two wired articles on Pierce's career as a whole, DEN case is only briefly touched:
Part 1 "A Drive Through Laurel Canyon With Brock Pierce"
http://archive.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-12/ff_ige_pierce
Part 2 "The Decline and Fall of an Ultra Rich Online Gaming Empire"
http://archive.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-12/ff_ige?currentPage=all
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Debonneville's court filings, meanwhile, revealed that the year before, Pierce had told him that Collins-Rector was blackmailing him, threatening to snarl IGE in litigation that would make it unattractive to investors.

as always take all of this with a grain of salt.

On a second thought i'm not sure what to make of this and if Pierce is still connected with Marc Collins-Rector today.
Regarding the fact that he began working for him at the age of 17 i have to say that i've seen a lot of people bumping into the wrong person during their early lifes.
One has to consider it often takes a long time to shake off the aftermath of these bad influences.
I'm still undecided if this is the case here.
Nevertheless Pierce seems like a dodgy character to me (as many other people involved in btc economy).

Would it surprise you to learnt he took on Marc Collins-Rector's last name?



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What is the situation regarding Mr. Pierce?

first have some tabloid articles around the whole DEN case:
http://boingboing.net/2007/11/15/goldfarming-empire-l.html

a capture of the mentioned radar magazine article Nov 2007 covering the connection between Collins-Rector and Pierce's former company IGE:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080418073324/http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2007/11/den_chads_world_marc_collins_rector_1-print.php

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hunterschwarz/mystery-man-at-center-of-alleged-hollywood-sex-ring-has-vani
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bryan-singer-sex-abuse-case-699828

two wired articles on Pierce's career as a whole, DEN case is only briefly touched:
Part 1 "A Drive Through Laurel Canyon With Brock Pierce"
http://archive.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-12/ff_ige_pierce
Part 2 "The Decline and Fall of an Ultra Rich Online Gaming Empire"
http://archive.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-12/ff_ige?currentPage=all
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Debonneville's court filings, meanwhile, revealed that the year before, Pierce had told him that Collins-Rector was blackmailing him, threatening to snarl IGE in litigation that would make it unattractive to investors.

as always take all of this with a grain of salt.

On a second thought i'm not sure what to make of this and if Pierce is still connected with Marc Collins-Rector today.
Regarding the fact that he began working for him at the age of 17 i have to say that i've seen a lot of people bumping into the wrong person during their early lifes.
One has to consider it often takes a long time to shake off the aftermath of these bad influences.
I'm still undecided if this is the case here.
Nevertheless Pierce seems like a dodgy character to me (as many other people involved in btc economy).

Would it surprise to learn he took on Marc Collins-Rector's last name?




yea after rereading your other thread, esp. the timestamps of both facebook profiles it's obvious now. (7am here, fatigue starting to get me)

i still don't understand why they would even publicly communicate via fb.
Just imagining someone like Collins-Rector having direct/indirect influence in bitcoin gives me the creeps.

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May 03, 2014, 07:02:59 AM
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Bitcoin Foundation is not relevant

whats relevant is the wallets and mining software that runs the bitcoin nodes

those are the real votes on the bitcoin network

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May 03, 2014, 07:05:01 AM
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Bitcoin Foundation is not relevant

whats relevant is the wallets and mining software that runs the bitcoin nodes

those are the real votes on the bitcoin network

Mining software? Isn't the mining hardware (hashrate) way more important?

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