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May 05, 2014, 04:43:19 PM |
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Hey all,
total noob here...
I just got a couple of ants on ebay and they have already been shipped. (yay)
I'm looking to have them both oc'd and powered by a single psu.
What's the best psu option for me?
I looked at some of the guides here and while the server psu's look cool and all, I'd prefer a more of a plug n' play approach with a regular psu.
(both ants are the newer model with the pci-e connectors)
What are my options? what's the min wattage for a psu to run 2 oc'd ants somewhat safely?
ty in advance and have a great day
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ChuckBuck
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May 05, 2014, 05:11:02 PM |
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Hey all,
total noob here...
I just got a couple of ants on ebay and they have already been shipped. (yay)
I'm looking to have them both oc'd and powered by a single psu.
What's the best psu option for me?
I looked at some of the guides here and while the server psu's look cool and all, I'd prefer a more of a plug n' play approach with a regular psu.
(both ants are the newer model with the pci-e connectors)
What are my options? what's the min wattage for a psu to run 2 oc'd ants somewhat safely?
ty in advance and have a great day
If you're on a budget, I'd just go with 2 500 or 600 W PSU's. Much cheaper. If budget doesn't matter, and you like to just connect 2 Ants to a single PSU, something like this would do: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139057 |
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bjalbert
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May 05, 2014, 05:22:01 PM |
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just get an 850w PSU and you will be fine. I have 860w corsair plat, 850 thermaltake gold and both have been running for many months without issue. Watts at the wall is around 810. Say 10% loss (conservative) it is only at 730watts.
PSU's are not rated for what they draw at the wall!!!!!!! They are rated for what they can deliver to the device.
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May 05, 2014, 05:33:10 PM |
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just get an 850w PSU and you will be fine. I have 860w corsair plat, 850 thermaltake gold and both have been running for many months without issue. Watts at the wall is around 810. Say 10% loss (conservative) it is only at 730watts.
PSU's are not rated for what they draw at the wall!!!!!!! They are rated for what they can deliver to the device.
would that work for 2 oc'd ants though?  I've read some guides here that say 850W would be just fine for running them @180g/h (stock) are yours oc'd and both running on the 860w corsair? thx so much for your fast replies guys |
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Hey gamersglory, thanks for your input. I did see that on ebay and the guy selling it states that it runs great for 2 non oc'd ants. I just wanna make sure that I find something that is capable of running both of em oc'd... Also, the noise is supposedly a bit high on them... Found this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028Would this be capable of powering 1 oc'd ant safely?? The price on these is just unbeatable. 2 of them are still less than the 1000w one and have some change left to buy smokes  . So yes, budget does matter a lil bit. Also would this be super easy to just plug n play? As in connect the pci-e cables, jump the psu and be done with it? Or does it still require soldering/cutting wires etc...? Is there a guide on how to jumper this specific unit? Corsair cx600? or do you just connect the green with any black? again, thanks for your patience and for your quick replies |
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May 05, 2014, 07:08:29 PM |
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ChuckBuck
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May 05, 2014, 07:38:18 PM |
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Hey gamersglory, thanks for your input. I did see that on ebay and the guy selling it states that it runs great for 2 non oc'd ants. I just wanna make sure that I find something that is capable of running both of em oc'd... Also, the noise is supposedly a bit high on them... Found this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028Would this be capable of powering 1 oc'd ant safely?? The price on these is just unbeatable. 2 of them are still less than the 1000w one and have some change left to buy smokes . So yes, budget does matter a lil bit. Also would this be super easy to just plug n play? As in connect the pci-e cables, jump the psu and be done with it? Or does it still require soldering/cutting wires etc...? Is there a guide on how to jumper this specific unit? Corsair cx600? or do you just connect the green with any black? again, thanks for your patience and for your quick replies Pay a little more for modular so you don't have a wiry mess: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139048Modular is as easy as it gets. Paper clip trick the PSU, plug in the ethernet, power on PSU, and configure your Ant. |
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May 05, 2014, 10:17:38 PM |
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Only 88% efficient, if you OC Ants they'll be around 400 Watts maybe more. 800 Watts/850 Watt PSU is 94% so mathematically exceeding the theoretical limit. Stock clock, 360 Watts *2 = 760 Watts/850 PSU = 85% = no worries. Basically you want 1000 Watts or more to be safe, without worrying about tripping the PSU. |
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May 05, 2014, 10:54:33 PM |
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Just got back home.
got 2x Corsair CX600M (modular) for $69 each from a local shop... can't wait for my ants to arrive now
thx a bunch chuckbuck, you're the man
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May 05, 2014, 10:59:52 PM |
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Only 88% efficient, if you OC Ants they'll be around 400 Watts maybe more. 800 Watts/850 Watt PSU is 94% so mathematically exceeding the theoretical limit. Stock clock, 360 Watts *2 = 760 Watts/850 PSU = 85% = no worries. Basically you want 1000 Watts or more to be safe, without worrying about tripping the PSU. do these ant's get super loud when you OC them? going to be running them under my cubicle desk at work.. so maybe I shouldnt be overclocking? lol |
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May 05, 2014, 11:03:44 PM |
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Only 88% efficient, if you OC Ants they'll be around 400 Watts maybe more. 800 Watts/850 Watt PSU is 94% so mathematically exceeding the theoretical limit. Stock clock, 360 Watts *2 = 760 Watts/850 PSU = 85% = no worries. Basically you want 1000 Watts or more to be safe, without worrying about tripping the PSU. do these ant's get super loud when you OC them? going to be running them under my cubicle desk at work.. so maybe I shouldnt be overclocking? lol They can get loud, overclocked. Not Avalon, BFL, or Spondoolie loud, but the fans are pretty audible. Also, underneath the desk might not get hit by your office AC vents or units. Just in case it gets hot down there, maybe throw a small desk fan just blow some air on it. Of course I don't condone running anything at work or office, could be considered stealing in some circles, but if you're going to do it, make sure it doesn't overheat.  |
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May 05, 2014, 11:05:22 PM |
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Just got back home.
got 2x Corsair CX600M (modular) for $69 each from a local shop... can't wait for my ants to arrive now
thx a bunch chuckbuck, you're the man
You're welcome, glad I could help. Good luck with your ants and welcome to mining. |
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May 06, 2014, 01:29:02 AM |
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Only 88% efficient, if you OC Ants they'll be around 400 Watts maybe more. 800 Watts/850 Watt PSU is 94% so mathematically exceeding the theoretical limit. Stock clock, 360 Watts *2 = 760 Watts/850 PSU = 85% = no worries. Basically you want 1000 Watts or more to be safe, without worrying about tripping the PSU. do these ant's get super loud when you OC them? going to be running them under my cubicle desk at work.. so maybe I shouldnt be overclocking? lol it won't work, unless you are in the southern hemisphere (where winter is coming): too much heat. Some units like to squeal when fans are accelerating to 2800 rpm. |
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May 07, 2014, 05:29:09 PM |
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Just got my 2 ants... YAY need some help with setting the jumper/payperclip for the psu. is there a diagram on which pins need to be connected? I understand how and why it is done but not sure which 2 also, once it is powered on and hooked up to the network, do I just access it by the IP that's listed on the sticker or is there anything else I need to do to configure it? install any mining software? Also I have my wallet set up locally with the Armory. I'm assuming that should not be a problem... Or do I need to set up a web wallet? So new to all this... thank you so much for all your help guys |
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May 07, 2014, 05:35:13 PM |
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plz disregard the last post. I was able to figure it out.
bridge green to any of the black wires and it works beautifully
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May 07, 2014, 05:47:56 PM |
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Only 88% efficient, if you OC Ants they'll be around 400 Watts maybe more. 800 Watts/850 Watt PSU is 94% so mathematically exceeding the theoretical limit. Stock clock, 360 Watts *2 = 760 Watts/850 PSU = 85% = no worries. Basically you want 1000 Watts or more to be safe, without worrying about tripping the PSU. do these ant's get super loud when you OC them? going to be running them under my cubicle desk at work.. so maybe I shouldnt be overclocking? lol it won't work, unless you are in the southern hemisphere (where winter is coming): too much heat. Some units like to squeal when fans are accelerating to 2800 rpm. Too hot to run under an office desk? |
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May 07, 2014, 07:26:52 PM |
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So I'm having a bit of an issue trying to power it up.
psu Corsair CX600M
On the psu there are several ports but only 1 6+2 pci-e
and it has only one cable with 2 pci-e ports on it.
So half way it splits in 2 pci-e.
I plugged each of that into each of the s1 boards and tried powering it up.
the psu does come on and runs super quietly.
however the ant has 3 leds 1 flashing green 1 red and 1 amber for the network.
the ant fan is off and it does not seem to be fully powered.
any ideas???
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May 07, 2014, 07:38:15 PM |
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OC'd ants draw 400 watts at the wall so at 85% eff that is only 340 per ant. A lower rated PSU just means that it will draw more at the wall and has nothing to do with what the PSU is rated for. the only advantage of running 75% is a PSU is typically more efficient but I digress. I run many ants 2xOCd on 850w PSUs without issue. Don't waste money if you don't have to. You are fine what you describe is normal. Just do the following: 1. The IP sticker on your Ant is probably 192.168.1.99 so chances are you can just open a browser and type that ip address to access the ant. user root pw root 2. if not follow the guid it is very easy just plug ethernet from your comp into Ant change you ipv4 settings to match the subnet and you are good to go. Read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355387then this to OC to 393 http://cryptomining-blog.com/366-how-to-overclock-your-bitmain-antminer-s1-to-200-ghs/Every new Ant I buy I just need to change the ip address under WAN settings and before that I make sure IP 192.168.1.99 is not set so I just plug and play. |
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May 07, 2014, 07:55:42 PM |
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yay it works. the fan on the ant did not turn on immediately and that's what threw me off... so how do I set a mining pool in here? do I have to set all 3 pools, or are the next 2 just for back up? Also, it seems that the guy that sold me the ants left his settings in there. Is there a way to reset it... seems like this ant is already hashing for him  |
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May 07, 2014, 08:09:43 PM |
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yay it works. the fan on the ant did not turn on immediately and that's what threw me off... so how do I set a mining pool in here? do I have to set all 3 pools, or are the next 2 just for back up? Also, it seems that the guy that sold me the ants left his settings in there. Is there a way to reset it... seems like this ant is already hashing for him you only need set one ,but you should have two or three just in case. one miner set with 3 pools  this is where you can change the settings for the pools  |
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May 07, 2014, 09:08:02 PM |
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cool. ty so much. Guess this one is set up and hashing away... will set up the 2nd one when I get back home. Is there anything I need to look out for when setting the 2nd ant??? have not opened it yet but I'm assuming it has a different ip on the sticker? |
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May 07, 2014, 09:26:35 PM |
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cool. ty so much. Guess this one is set up and hashing away... will set up the 2nd one when I get back home. Is there anything I need to look out for when setting the 2nd ant??? have not opened it yet but I'm assuming it has a different ip on the sticker? No, if it is a new one it will probably have the same fixed IP (192.168.1.99). The easiest way is to modify the one that you already have running (login to the web gui, Network tab, Interfaces tab (comes up first) then edit the WAN interface IP (IPv4 address box, change value from 192.168.1.99 to for example 192.168.1.98), click 'save & apply', then be patient as it takes a few minutes (if stuck do a System reset). If you try to run both S1's on the same WAN IP address you are looking for trouble. You also need to make sure that there are no IP address clashes with existing devices on your network (if your router has a feature to assign specific IP addresses, then use that to assign the S1's the same addresses as the fixed ones that you selected, this will prevent future clashes). Cheers |
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May 07, 2014, 09:36:22 PM |
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cool. ty so much. Guess this one is set up and hashing away... will set up the 2nd one when I get back home. Is there anything I need to look out for when setting the 2nd ant??? have not opened it yet but I'm assuming it has a different ip on the sticker? No, if it is a new one it will probably have the same fixed IP (192.168.1.99). The easiest way is to modify the one that you already have running (login to the web gui, Network tab, Interfaces tab (comes up first) then edit the WAN interface IP (IPv4 address box, change value from 192.168.1.99 to for example 192.168.1.98), click 'save & apply', then be patient as it takes a few minutes (if stuck do a System reset). If you try to run both S1's on the same WAN IP address you are looking for trouble. You also need to make sure that there are no IP address clashes with existing devices on your network (if your router has a feature to assign specific IP addresses, then use that to assign the S1's the same addresses as the fixed ones that you selected, this will prevent future clashes). Cheers there is a free ip scan link somewhere for windows maybe someone can post it. |
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May 07, 2014, 10:07:42 PM |
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cool. ty so much. Guess this one is set up and hashing away... will set up the 2nd one when I get back home. Is there anything I need to look out for when setting the 2nd ant??? have not opened it yet but I'm assuming it has a different ip on the sticker? No, if it is a new one it will probably have the same fixed IP (192.168.1.99). The easiest way is to modify the one that you already have running (login to the web gui, Network tab, Interfaces tab (comes up first) then edit the WAN interface IP (IPv4 address box, change value from 192.168.1.99 to for example 192.168.1.98), click 'save & apply', then be patient as it takes a few minutes (if stuck do a System reset). If you try to run both S1's on the same WAN IP address you are looking for trouble. You also need to make sure that there are no IP address clashes with existing devices on your network (if your router has a feature to assign specific IP addresses, then use that to assign the S1's the same addresses as the fixed ones that you selected, this will prevent future clashes). Cheers there is a free ip scan link somewhere for windows maybe someone can post it. This is one. Advamced Ip Scanner: http://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/ |
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May 08, 2014, 07:13:26 PM |
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cool. ty so much. Guess this one is set up and hashing away... will set up the 2nd one when I get back home. Is there anything I need to look out for when setting the 2nd ant??? have not opened it yet but I'm assuming it has a different ip on the sticker? No, if it is a new one it will probably have the same fixed IP (192.168.1.99). The easiest way is to modify the one that you already have running (login to the web gui, Network tab, Interfaces tab (comes up first) then edit the WAN interface IP (IPv4 address box, change value from 192.168.1.99 to for example 192.168.1.98), click 'save & apply', then be patient as it takes a few minutes (if stuck do a System reset). If you try to run both S1's on the same WAN IP address you are looking for trouble. You also need to make sure that there are no IP address clashes with existing devices on your network (if your router has a feature to assign specific IP addresses, then use that to assign the S1's the same addresses as the fixed ones that you selected, this will prevent future clashes). Cheers there is a free ip scan link somewhere for windows maybe someone can post it. This is one. Advamced Ip Scanner: http://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/ yes that is the one thank you for posting the link. |
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May 08, 2014, 08:17:56 PM |
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Hey all,
total noob here...
I just got a couple of ants on ebay and they have already been shipped. (yay)
I'm looking to have them both oc'd and powered by a single psu.
What's the best psu option for me?
I looked at some of the guides here and while the server psu's look cool and all, I'd prefer a more of a plug n' play approach with a regular psu.
(both ants are the newer model with the pci-e connectors)
What are my options? what's the min wattage for a psu to run 2 oc'd ants somewhat safely?
ty in advance and have a great day
If you're on a budget, I'd just go with 2 500 or 600 W PSU's. Much cheaper. If budget doesn't matter, and you like to just connect 2 Ants to a single PSU, something like this would do: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139057yep i just bought another one of these rm1000's today .. i have an entire fleet of these now. |
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