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June 12, 2014, 05:35:45 PM
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the ego again... omg.... when theres nothing more to FUD, so lets talk about some EGOshit........ sincerely??? .......

The attempts at FUDing VRC are terrible. So far we've had people trying to say it's a scam for no logical reason, and others complaining that the developer is too passionate.

It's actually pretty hilarious :-D
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June 12, 2014, 05:50:44 PM
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the ego again... omg.... when theres nothing more to FUD, so lets talk about some EGOshit........ sincerely??? .......

The attempts at FUDing VRC are terrible. So far we've had people trying to say it's a scam for no logical reason, and others complaining that the developer is too passionate.

It's actually pretty hilarious :-D

+1!

I just see all of it as more reason to assume this coin has something that intimidates these folks.
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I'm listening (as usual) the last podcast of letstalkbitcoin (about TruthCoin) and I was thinking that would be very good for the VeriCoin Project to go there and talk about what has been done and whats to come. More people need to know this project and letstalkbitcoin is a great kickstarter. Anyone agree with me? What do you thing Patrick?
http://letstalkbitcoin.com/contact-us

http://www.reddit.com/r/vericoin/comments/27zdjb/vericoin_letstalkbitcoin/

Just posted on reddit and I AGREE! I would be great!  Cool

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June 12, 2014, 06:05:58 PM
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I have a question, I just xfered some VRC from exchange back to wallet, I'm not very versed in stake coins, however I have now held these coins for roughly 2 hours, and when I mouse hover over the Blue Icon in the wallet, it says my time to earn interest  is 2 days , is this normal? I had thought I had read earlier, some one has said 8 hours?
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June 12, 2014, 06:06:56 PM
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when there is nothing to troll, FUDster will begin to troll something like "ego"

i know those fanboys will come sooner or later.
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June 12, 2014, 06:07:43 PM
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I have a question, I just xfered some VRC from exchange back to wallet, I'm not very versed in stake coins, however I have now held these coins for roughly 2 hours, and when I mouse hover over the Blue Icon in the wallet, it says my time to earn interest  is 2 days , is this normal? I had thought I had read earlier, some one has said 8 hours?

coins need to mature in your wallet for 8 hours before you can stake them

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June 12, 2014, 06:09:26 PM
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I have a question, I just xfered some VRC from exchange back to wallet, I'm not very versed in stake coins, however I have now held these coins for roughly 2 hours, and when I mouse hover over the Blue Icon in the wallet, it says my time to earn interest  is 2 days , is this normal? I had thought I had read earlier, some one has said 8 hours?

coins need to mature in your wallet for 8 hours before you can stake them

Also, when you get a payment depends on how many coins you have as well, it works out at the end of a year to be the average interest rate for that year earned.
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June 12, 2014, 06:10:18 PM
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I have a question, I just xfered some VRC from exchange back to wallet, I'm not very versed in stake coins, however I have now held these coins for roughly 2 hours, and when I mouse hover over the Blue Icon in the wallet, it says my time to earn interest  is 2 days , is this normal? I had thought I had read earlier, some one has said 8 hours?

coins need to mature in your wallet for 8 hours before you can stake them

And you have to leave your wallet open for permanent connections to the vericoin network (to gain interest).

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June 12, 2014, 06:11:32 PM
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I have a question, I just xfered some VRC from exchange back to wallet, I'm not very versed in stake coins, however I have now held these coins for roughly 2 hours, and when I mouse hover over the Blue Icon in the wallet, it says my time to earn interest  is 2 days , is this normal? I had thought I had read earlier, some one has said 8 hours?

coins need to mature in your wallet for 8 hours before you can stake them

Also, when you get a payment depends on how many coins you have as well, it works out at the end of a year to be the average interest rate for that year earned.

Okie dokie, sounds good, so even if its just a small fraction of a VRC, I should see some thing change after holding for 8 hrs within wallet..that answers my question perfectly, thanks again.. have a good one.
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June 12, 2014, 06:12:32 PM
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People were inquiring.  Though we no longer give ETA's because they can be used against the community in temporary delays, the next wallet update to be released will implement the first version of the ANON #VeriSend feature.

Thanks guys and gals.
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June 12, 2014, 06:14:00 PM
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People were inquiring.  Though we no longer give ETA's because they can be used against the community in temporary delays, the next wallet update to be released will implement the first version of the ANON #VeriSend feature.

Thanks guys and gals.
Thats some great news! Also the intrest is now @ 2.119 almost half of the coins total amount are staking!

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June 12, 2014, 06:14:33 PM
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the ego again... omg.... when theres nothing more to FUD, so lets talk about some EGOshit........ sincerely??? .......

The attempts at FUDing VRC are terrible. So far we've had people trying to say it's a scam for no logical reason, and others complaining that the developer is too passionate.

It's actually pretty hilarious :-D

+1!

I just see all of it as more reason to assume this coin has something that intimidates these folks.

As long as the developers don't delete any post and allow people to express their opinions, I'm good. The dev has an ego problem but it could be much MUCH worse. Hoping you guys deliver.

Cheers,
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June 12, 2014, 06:17:37 PM
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I'm not making a stance if this coin is going up or down. I just don't like the huge head the dev has on himself so I don't support it. I am not here to get rich, I have enough and support advances to cryptotechnology. Hence why I used to really like this coin.

Anyone else notice the announcements about futures developments constantly? How about just wait a few days and announce it when it's done rather than hyping it up? Too much hype means price inflation. Let the code speak for itself. These guys think they are the smartest people in the world, I have yet to see anything to back that up.

Hey, it's cool that I've got someone who trolls me already. I guess that's good news. I'm not sure if you've been paying attention, but VeriCoin was attacked by both CRY and CLOAK first (the CRY dev and Iconic Expert). So of course it was fun telling the Cloak guys they could buy some cheap VRC.

We don't think we're smarter than everyone else in the world though we do have one of the most elite programmers on our team (Dev3) in the world. Whatever code Effects and I can't get working our wonderful Dev3 can. Also, if you haven't noticed we announced and launched VeriSMS within a week of its announcement.

We pride ourselves on our openness and our ability to follow through. My primary issue with your statement is that you think I want attention, etc. but in reality the other VRC devs asked me to be the frontman because I'm the most adept with social media.

Anyway, just watch. You can think I'm full of myself. I think if I were highly egotistical I would have used twitter before we launched VeriCoin.

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June 12, 2014, 06:25:05 PM
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I'm not making a stance if this coin is going up or down. I just don't like the huge head the dev has on himself so I don't support it. I am not here to get rich, I have enough and support advances to cryptotechnology. Hence why I used to really like this coin.

Anyone else notice the announcements about futures developments constantly? How about just wait a few days and announce it when it's done rather than hyping it up? Too much hype means price inflation. Let the code speak for itself. These guys think they are the smartest people in the world, I have yet to see anything to back that up.

Hey, it's cool that I've got someone who trolls me already. I guess that's good news. I'm not sure if you've been paying attention, but VeriCoin was attacked by both CRY and CLOAK first (the CRY dev and Iconic Expert). So of course it was fun telling the Cloak guys they could buy some cheap VRC.

We don't think we're smarter than everyone else in the world though we do have one of the most elite programmers on our team (Dev3) in the world. Whatever code Effects and I can't get working our wonderful Dev3 can. Also, if you haven't noticed we announced and launched VeriSMS within a week of its announcement.

We pride ourselves on our openness and our ability to follow through. My primary issue with your statement is that you think I want attention, etc. but in reality the other VRC devs asked me to be the frontman because I'm the most adept with social media.

Anyway, just watch. You can think I'm full of myself. I think if I were highly egotistical I would have used twitter before we launched VeriCoin.

I saw you say on twitter that you guarantee your code is better than everyone else's. That is extremely egotistical and false. It is something that is not possible for you to know.

Claiming to have on of the most elite programmers in the world is just your opinion and comes across as egotistical. I am not here to argue with you but just stating my opinion. Let's stay away from calling people names, etc.?

I never said you wanted attention, that is a false assumption that you made. I said you had a huge ego and I am doing this to help you improve your situation.

cheers,
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June 12, 2014, 06:31:05 PM
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People were inquiring.  Though we no longer give ETA's because they can be used against the community in temporary delays, the next wallet update to be released will implement the first version of the ANON #VeriSend feature.

Thanks guys and gals.

MOON!

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June 12, 2014, 06:43:17 PM
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I'm not making a stance if this coin is going up or down. I just don't like the huge head the dev has on himself so I don't support it. I am not here to get rich, I have enough and support advances to cryptotechnology. Hence why I used to really like this coin.

Anyone else notice the announcements about futures developments constantly? How about just wait a few days and announce it when it's done rather than hyping it up? Too much hype means price inflation. Let the code speak for itself. These guys think they are the smartest people in the world, I have yet to see anything to back that up.

Hey, it's cool that I've got someone who trolls me already. I guess that's good news. I'm not sure if you've been paying attention, but VeriCoin was attacked by both CRY and CLOAK first (the CRY dev and Iconic Expert). So of course it was fun telling the Cloak guys they could buy some cheap VRC.

We don't think we're smarter than everyone else in the world though we do have one of the most elite programmers on our team (Dev3) in the world. Whatever code Effects and I can't get working our wonderful Dev3 can. Also, if you haven't noticed we announced and launched VeriSMS within a week of its announcement.

We pride ourselves on our openness and our ability to follow through. My primary issue with your statement is that you think I want attention, etc. but in reality the other VRC devs asked me to be the frontman because I'm the most adept with social media.

Anyway, just watch. You can think I'm full of myself. I think if I were highly egotistical I would have used twitter before we launched VeriCoin.

I saw you say on twitter that you guarantee your code is better than everyone else's. That is extremely egotistical and false. It is something that is not possible for you to know.

Claiming to have on of the most elite programmers in the world is just your opinion and comes across as egotistical. I am not here to argue with you but just stating my opinion. Let's stay away from calling people names, etc.?

I never said you wanted attention, that is a false assumption that you made. I said you had a huge ego and I am doing this to help you improve your situation.

cheers,

Thanks for your concern. I'm not a perfect person and I'll consider your opinion. Anyway it was mostly a reaction to the public attacks from two other coin groups. Dev3 is one of the most elite programmers. When he's at BTC Chicago with us you will see why I'm saying that now... the guy has written a lot of code that a top software company has published.

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June 12, 2014, 06:56:19 PM
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I'm not making a stance if this coin is going up or down. I just don't like the huge head the dev has on himself so I don't support it. I am not here to get rich, I have enough and support advances to cryptotechnology. Hence why I used to really like this coin.

Anyone else notice the announcements about futures developments constantly? How about just wait a few days and announce it when it's done rather than hyping it up? Too much hype means price inflation. Let the code speak for itself. These guys think they are the smartest people in the world, I have yet to see anything to back that up.

Hey, it's cool that I've got someone who trolls me already. I guess that's good news. I'm not sure if you've been paying attention, but VeriCoin was attacked by both CRY and CLOAK first (the CRY dev and Iconic Expert). So of course it was fun telling the Cloak guys they could buy some cheap VRC.

We don't think we're smarter than everyone else in the world though we do have one of the most elite programmers on our team (Dev3) in the world. Whatever code Effects and I can't get working our wonderful Dev3 can. Also, if you haven't noticed we announced and launched VeriSMS within a week of its announcement.

We pride ourselves on our openness and our ability to follow through. My primary issue with your statement is that you think I want attention, etc. but in reality the other VRC devs asked me to be the frontman because I'm the most adept with social media.

Anyway, just watch. You can think I'm full of myself. I think if I were highly egotistical I would have used twitter before we launched VeriCoin.

I saw you say on twitter that you guarantee your code is better than everyone else's. That is extremely egotistical and false. It is something that is not possible for you to know.

Claiming to have on of the most elite programmers in the world is just your opinion and comes across as egotistical. I am not here to argue with you but just stating my opinion. Let's stay away from calling people names, etc.?

I never said you wanted attention, that is a false assumption that you made. I said you had a huge ego and I am doing this to help you improve your situation.

cheers,

First, the appropriate word would be "egocentric", not "egotistical", that have quite a different meaning and nothing to do with the intended purpose.

What "kryptologist" say is true, regarding the code, if in fact you issued such a "guarantee", which is plain stupid, big head or no big head. Just plain stupid. And, of course, untrue. It is also true his comment about your statement regarding the "elite programmers" and Dev3. Where is the official ranking that determines that elite? Just because you own a Ford and love it it doesn't mean it is at the same level than BMW, you know?

In any case, you being the appointed "front man", should be much more careful in your verbiage because it is written, forever, so it is important what you choose to say.

Talking about which, perhaps some more hype wouldn't hurt the coin at all, pricewise or volume-wise. We are now on a long-standing (by crypto standards, that is) in which the price is quite stagnant and only tilting down. In spite of what you just announced. It seems that not attaching an estimated date of delivery works rather negatively. Just as a suggestion, to avoid what you perceive mistakes of the past, I would set a generous ETA, much rather than a convenient -for you and your elite programmers, no one else- "we'll announce it when it's ready". It would be a very nice pattern to establish, making announcements of features, with ETA, that are constantly beaten. It's called, in the financial world, "under-promise and over-deliver". And it works like magic.

You should try it.
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June 12, 2014, 07:03:45 PM
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I'm not making a stance if this coin is going up or down. I just don't like the huge head the dev has on himself so I don't support it. I am not here to get rich, I have enough and support advances to cryptotechnology. Hence why I used to really like this coin.

Anyone else notice the announcements about futures developments constantly? How about just wait a few days and announce it when it's done rather than hyping it up? Too much hype means price inflation. Let the code speak for itself. These guys think they are the smartest people in the world, I have yet to see anything to back that up.

Hey, it's cool that I've got someone who trolls me already. I guess that's good news. I'm not sure if you've been paying attention, but VeriCoin was attacked by both CRY and CLOAK first (the CRY dev and Iconic Expert). So of course it was fun telling the Cloak guys they could buy some cheap VRC.

We don't think we're smarter than everyone else in the world though we do have one of the most elite programmers on our team (Dev3) in the world. Whatever code Effects and I can't get working our wonderful Dev3 can. Also, if you haven't noticed we announced and launched VeriSMS within a week of its announcement.

We pride ourselves on our openness and our ability to follow through. My primary issue with your statement is that you think I want attention, etc. but in reality the other VRC devs asked me to be the frontman because I'm the most adept with social media.

Anyway, just watch. You can think I'm full of myself. I think if I were highly egotistical I would have used twitter before we launched VeriCoin.

I saw you say on twitter that you guarantee your code is better than everyone else's. That is extremely egotistical and false. It is something that is not possible for you to know.

Claiming to have on of the most elite programmers in the world is just your opinion and comes across as egotistical. I am not here to argue with you but just stating my opinion. Let's stay away from calling people names, etc.?

I never said you wanted attention, that is a false assumption that you made. I said you had a huge ego and I am doing this to help you improve your situation.

cheers,

First, the appropriate word would be "egocentric", not "egotistical", that have quite a different meaning and nothing to do with the intended purpose.

What "kryptologist" say is true, regarding the code, if in fact you issued such a "guarantee", which is plain stupid, big head or no big head. Just plain stupid. And, of course, untrue. It is also true his comment about your statement regarding the "elite programmers" and Dev3. Where is the official ranking that determines that elite? Just because you own a Ford and love it it doesn't mean it is at the same level than BMW, you know?

In any case, you being the appointed "front man", should be much more careful in your verbiage because it is written, forever, so it is important what you choose to say.

Talking about which, perhaps some more hype wouldn't hurt the coin at all, pricewise or volume-wise. We are now on a long-standing (by crypto standards, that is) in which the price is quite stagnant and only tilting down. In spite of what you just announced. It seems that not attaching an estimated date of delivery works rather negatively. Just as a suggestion, to avoid what you perceive mistakes of the past, I would set a generous ETA, much rather than a convenient -for you and your elite programmers, no one else- "we'll announce it when it's ready". It would be a very nice pattern to establish, making announcements of features, with ETA, that are constantly beaten. It's called, in the financial world, "under-promise and over-deliver". And it works like magic.

You should try it.

Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it. My apologies on the word choice. I'm honestly not concerned about the price as I'm not selling mine anytime soon. I believe it will rise when people see VeriCoin's utility. The mistake in the past that we are trying to stay away from is people holding coin until a release and then dumping once it's delivered.

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First, the appropriate word would be "egocentric", not "egotistical", that have quite a different meaning and nothing to do with the intended purpose.

What "kryptologist" say is true, regarding the code, if in fact you issued such a "guarantee", which is plain stupid, big head or no big head. Just plain stupid. And, of course, untrue. It is also true his comment about your statement regarding the "elite programmers" and Dev3. Where is the official ranking that determines that elite? Just because you own a Ford and love it it doesn't mean it is at the same level than BMW, you know?

In any case, you being the appointed "front man", should be much more careful in your verbiage because it is written, forever, so it is important what you choose to say.

Talking about which, perhaps some more hype wouldn't hurt the coin at all, pricewise or volume-wise. We are now on a long-standing (by crypto standards, that is) in which the price is quite stagnant and only tilting down. In spite of what you just announced. It seems that not attaching an estimated date of delivery works rather negatively. Just as a suggestion, to avoid what you perceive mistakes of the past, I would set a generous ETA, much rather than a convenient -for you and your elite programmers, no one else- "we'll announce it when it's ready". It would be a very nice pattern to establish, making announcements of features, with ETA, that are constantly beaten. It's called, in the financial world, "under-promise and over-deliver". And it works like magic.

You should try it.

Really?

What you and kryptologist is saying is false, untrue, probably agenda from your team to get even more cheap coins. Buy it at this price, or go seek another "great" coin.

When pnosker says about elite, we know he means it and of course he already did bring the elite, like D. K. to look the code, and we know that man is the elite of the elite.
So we are confident and believe, that pnosker is true of his words. Because he already did it and prove it a few times.

We wish all the best some groups attacking this coin, to get it more cheap, or to pump or protect own coin, because they are scared shitless of Vericoin . But this community will not allow it.
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June 12, 2014, 07:11:40 PM
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I'm not making a stance if this coin is going up or down. I just don't like the huge head the dev has on himself so I don't support it. I am not here to get rich, I have enough and support advances to cryptotechnology. Hence why I used to really like this coin.

Anyone else notice the announcements about futures developments constantly? How about just wait a few days and announce it when it's done rather than hyping it up? Too much hype means price inflation. Let the code speak for itself. These guys think they are the smartest people in the world, I have yet to see anything to back that up.

Hey, it's cool that I've got someone who trolls me already. I guess that's good news. I'm not sure if you've been paying attention, but VeriCoin was attacked by both CRY and CLOAK first (the CRY dev and Iconic Expert). So of course it was fun telling the Cloak guys they could buy some cheap VRC.

We don't think we're smarter than everyone else in the world though we do have one of the most elite programmers on our team (Dev3) in the world. Whatever code Effects and I can't get working our wonderful Dev3 can. Also, if you haven't noticed we announced and launched VeriSMS within a week of its announcement.

We pride ourselves on our openness and our ability to follow through. My primary issue with your statement is that you think I want attention, etc. but in reality the other VRC devs asked me to be the frontman because I'm the most adept with social media.

Anyway, just watch. You can think I'm full of myself. I think if I were highly egotistical I would have used twitter before we launched VeriCoin.

I saw you say on twitter that you guarantee your code is better than everyone else's. That is extremely egotistical and false. It is something that is not possible for you to know.

Claiming to have on of the most elite programmers in the world is just your opinion and comes across as egotistical. I am not here to argue with you but just stating my opinion. Let's stay away from calling people names, etc.?

I never said you wanted attention, that is a false assumption that you made. I said you had a huge ego and I am doing this to help you improve your situation.

cheers,

First, the appropriate word would be "egocentric", not "egotistical", that have quite a different meaning and nothing to do with the intended purpose.

What "kryptologist" say is true, regarding the code, if in fact you issued such a "guarantee", which is plain stupid, big head or no big head. Just plain stupid. And, of course, untrue. It is also true his comment about your statement regarding the "elite programmers" and Dev3. Where is the official ranking that determines that elite? Just because you own a Ford and love it it doesn't mean it is at the same level than BMW, you know?

In any case, you being the appointed "front man", should be much more careful in your verbiage because it is written, forever, so it is important what you choose to say.

Talking about which, perhaps some more hype wouldn't hurt the coin at all, pricewise or volume-wise. We are now on a long-standing (by crypto standards, that is) in which the price is quite stagnant and only tilting down. In spite of what you just announced. It seems that not attaching an estimated date of delivery works rather negatively. Just as a suggestion, to avoid what you perceive mistakes of the past, I would set a generous ETA, much rather than a convenient -for you and your elite programmers, no one else- "we'll announce it when it's ready". It would be a very nice pattern to establish, making announcements of features, with ETA, that are constantly beaten. It's called, in the financial world, "under-promise and over-deliver". And it works like magic.

You should try it.

Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it. My apologies on the word choice. I'm honestly not concerned about the price as I'm not selling mine anytime soon. I believe it will rise when people see VeriCoin's utility. The mistake in the past that we are trying to stay away from is people holding coin until a release and then dumping once it's delivered.

Let's break apart the egotistical claim

e·go·tis·ti·cal
ˌēgəˈtistikəl/
adjective
adjective: egotistic; adjective: egotistical

    excessively conceited or absorbed in oneself; self-centered.
    "he's selfish, egotistical, and arrogant"
    synonyms:   self-centered, selfish, egocentric, egomaniacal, self-interested, self-seeking, self-absorbed, narcissistic, vain, conceited, self-important; More

I'd like to focus on the self-interested part of the definition. I'd argue that the claim that the code will be better than anyone else's is based on the skill of the team, not on pnosker's personal skill. If he was the only developer on this coin I agree it would seem somewhat self-aggrandizing to shout "I have the best code!!1". To me it just came off as being excited in the team and confidence that the team would produce something remarkable. It is probably justified based off of the friends that pnosker has such as Dan Kaminsky. If it were anonymous coin dev #101,321 I'd roll my eyes, but in this case I don't mind it.

I think Barabbas has a good point about setting a generous ETA that you think you can beat. I think it's ok to allow hype to build up. For better or worse the best promotional tool in crypto is a rising price. Some of the holders of this coin are really sweet, honest folk but they also have a lot on the line. Some of them have an uncomfortable amount of money on the line. It might put them at ease if they could at least have some idea of when things are expected rather than biting their nails in anticipation.

Also, I don't think the price tanked just because of the "buy the rumor, sell the news" effect. There are multiple factors at play here. I'll list them in order of importance below:
  • Bitcoin price began floundering earlier this week which has hit the whole alt market, not just this coin.
  • For better or worse, there is a perception in the community right now that the anon is the killer app. SMS in my opinion will drive investment from actual business investors, but anon is the hype feature. The fact that it is floating around with no ETA is whale bait that they are using to seed uncertainty and cause smaller holders to get scared and jump ship.
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