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June 18, 2014, 01:06:16 PM
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It is a bit sad that many are "running" on the gas of delusion. And, by extension, coming with concepts such a "better than..." other coins. Or, in at least one case, mistaken the price per coin for the market cap thus adding to unnecessary confusion.

--FACT is that VRC is no better -nor worse- than hundreds other coins out there, both valued higher and lower than it.
--FACT is that the many flavors of "anon" are just a fad -susceptible of being hyped, of course- that has, in the very short run, an absurd effect on price but will have none long term for it is a feature, when and if completely implementable, that has next to no actual practical purpose.
--FACT is that VRC has a VERY POOR logo and that reflects indeed in the very important appeal that logos can bring.
--FACT is the VRC has no plans whatsoever to take it to the next level in terms of promotion or other efforts to bring it to the mainstream. In other words, no one outside of very well versed cryptoaddicts have even heard of VRC.
--FACT is that no one cares about the potential for software incorporation in the near future this coin may have.
--FACT is that there's no branding efforts in progress, not even plans for ones.
--FACT is that the gimmick of the dynamic interest is of so minimal importance that it doesn't even work as such gimmick.

All of these FACTS hinder the progression and value potential of this coin that is only a nerd game and, therefore, destined to be trading within a range of limited risk mini pumps and dumps, for there's absolutely nothing to look forward in it other than delusion, wild hopes and speculations based on a supposed superiority in programming, or software potential that is very far from proven and that, by the time it comes to fruition, will probably have been already implemented by a significant number of coins, some of them probably with superior overall or even particular product.

Now, every one of the deluded will come with their inevitable attacks and disqualifications because that's the way the cookie crumbles in cryptoland. Sorry but all those FACTS are realities and a sobering dose of it -and hopefully subsequent corrective action- is quite needed. If you want to see the price of this coin to rise, much more is required than lines of code: It is called work, commitment, investment, promotion and dedication on the part of the community.

Ask yourself this question: Why would someone buy VRC now? There are only two possible answers: a) because they think it will go up ion price and they can make a quick profit of 20-30% or b) because they expect it to go much higher than that from the current price and maybe pocket 80-90% or even a double or more. In Either and all cases, no one but no one will buy this coin today because they give it even a glimmer of a chance to some day become an actual storage or value, much less a coin with any practical use in the real world. Unless that perception is changed dramatically, no one will ever invest seriously in this coin.

Now, time to shoot the messenger.




Noted ~

You have some valid points on branding and that can be fixed.

Now as far as technical advantage, Vericoin is miles ahead of most coins. I don't need to get in to details, however read the latest updates, OP etc.
The sms feature in this coin has the potential to revolutionize how we use coins in the future. especially in emerging markets.

Most investors want a fast moving coin, pump so they make their money and dump it. hence so many clone coins.

I make a habit of not trashing another coin, but I rather learn and see how well they implemented some features.
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June 18, 2014, 01:43:46 PM
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If you think vericoin got pumped somehow already look whats happening on crypt right now. . . this hole cryptocoin shit is really weird Cheesy you annouce some good news and the market fucks you hard.... you announce nothing and you get pumped by fontas like ass!! and people are the same sheeps greedy and dumb.

Me i feel with vericoin like the nerdboy in the school who never gets the girls... but sit there..do homework , get great marks ...schools over...college......than harvard..best gradueted ...job at goldman sachs....and THAN BAM!!!! All the hoes suddenly surround me. Champagne , Tesla model S 2 Supersport (future), house on the beach ...

So devs dont get distracted and do your great work we have a long way to go.

By the way whos is dev3? All this is very mysterious...

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June 18, 2014, 02:19:59 PM
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We found a new floor at 0.00013 ? Smiley
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June 18, 2014, 02:30:44 PM
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Take a look at VeriBit: http://www.vericoin.info/VeriBit.pdf

So now we can use VeriCoin anywhere we can use Bitcoin, we can send VeriCoin with text messaging, and we can send it anonymously. What a great technical accomplishment!
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June 18, 2014, 02:45:21 PM
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Take a look at VeriBit: http://www.vericoin.info/VeriBit.pdf

So now we can use VeriCoin anywhere we can use Bitcoin, we can send VeriCoin with text messaging, and we can send it anonymously. What a great technical accomplishment!

Ya pritty amazing it is flying under the radar....
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June 18, 2014, 02:54:12 PM
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Take a look at VeriBit: http://www.vericoin.info/VeriBit.pdf

So now we can use VeriCoin anywhere we can use Bitcoin, we can send VeriCoin with text messaging, and we can send it anonymously. What a great technical accomplishment!

Ya pritty amazing it is flying under the radar....

Just let it fly some time Smiley we will get noticed

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June 18, 2014, 03:13:21 PM
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Well, here's my todo list of thing that should be done to bring VeriCoin mainstream. We all like the innovations that VeriCoin has done already and we look forward for the the other innovations like VeriBit, but I really think that alone is not enough taking in consideration the crypto trading manipulations by whales, we need to think outside the box and take other approach besides the technical implementations. So here's my review of what's going on and what must be done:  

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1. Oficial video on youtube by the developers in particular Patrick Nosker
This should be done as quickly as possible. The main idea behind this is to release a youtube video like we all see in the kickstarter projects. A simple video of the dev's or Patrick talking about VeriCoin and how it all started, the goal with the project with some explanation about the diferent sub-projects in VeriCoin as VeriSMS / VeriSend / VeriBit / VeriFund / so on.. This video would become viral in the first ou second day by the power of social networks (Facebook / Twitter).

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2. Oficial Youtube channel for VeriCoin
Everyone knows the power of youtube channels and this could be one great feature for VeriCoin to go mainstream. Some content examples for the channel:
- What is VeriCoin? (Concept and why VeriCoin)
- How does it work? (explain the whitepaper and how does de interest/stake work)
- How to use the features (VeriSMS / VeriSend / VeriBit and so on)
- Current features and what's to come in the future
A good oficial youtube channel would bring a lot of people to VeriCoin because it's easier to see a video than digging in forums or to google. Also it would be easier to share with friends, just a link away and here it is. And the youtube payments from the advertising would be converted to VRC and would go also to the VeriFund.

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3. More articles in cryptonews websites and awareness to opinion leaders
This is another massive opportunity that shouldn't be ignored, on the contrary! VeriCoin must be on the main CryptoNews sites even if it means that we have to pay for it. One good and long article in CoinDesk can make the diference and bring a spotlight to VeriCoin and what has been done and what's to come. Also we must bring to attention to the opinion leaders that VeriCoin exists and once again whats been done and what's to come. I did this yesterday (and been done for the last week) with MadBitcoins and already have a video that they talked of the existence of VeriCoin but without the real knowledge of the projecter. Yesterday my direct tweet to MadBitcoins finally made some remarkable retweets and now MadBitcois knows that VeriCoin is moving, let's see when he will refer to it in on of its shows. The golden goal of opinion leaders in my opinion is Andreas and with all the ideas behind VeriCoin (VeriSMS/VeriSend/VeriBit) it's obvious that VeriCoin it's not just an Altcoins.

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I think the developers know that they are not alone in this boat and theres a community thats growing. This community is eager to help in what way they can and the Bounties should be a good incentive to promote and solidify the project. Theres a lot that can be done with bounties, we just need a list of things that VeriCoin needs and make Bounties for that.

As I said, this project has a lot to offer but if theres no valid communication to the crypto community worldwide it will be doom to whale pump&dump and market manipulation. We cannot ignore the power of the media. The developers must stop a while and think really in a communication strategy like I've wrote, this is not rocket science it's the basic of a good communication plan and public relations stuff. I hope sincerely that this ideas and advices may be taken in consideration because it's the most important thing that VeriCoin has to do in the present day.

VeriCoin - Build and they will come -

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Could we have one from Patrick Nosker instead, you know, what with him being the developer. As opposed to whomever Mr Knosker might be. (sorry, couldn't resist it)
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Why not try texting them some coins? Those you can get the phone number for, of course.

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... Typo corrected... sorry about that  Roll Eyes

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June 18, 2014, 03:23:37 PM
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Crypts gone stagnant nobody wants to buy, probably going to tumble.

Pump veri.
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June 18, 2014, 03:47:27 PM
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veriwiki would be nice ,  with aaaalll the questions people have been answered by dev and community. Smiley
Like DRK have . By the way can somebody explain me this centralisation stuff everyone is FUD arround?
our PoS system works...and PoS mean PROOF of STAKE  so... that mean WE confirm the transactions.
Cant see any centralisation here. Or am i wrong.
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June 18, 2014, 04:07:12 PM
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You know, you've said a lot of crap before but this is the first thing you've posted that's been constructive. I'd love to hear your advice on fixing the "FACTs" so we can better the coin. Seriously.

Post updates everyday and have ETAs. If you are afraid of people FUDing your ETAs then just give yourself a lot of room to deliver on time e.g. if you think it will take five days then say 15 days then when you deliver early price gets a huge boost. Under promise over deliver.

And for gods sakes add the phrase ANON onto the end of the thread title, do you know how many people that do NOT know VRC has anon function? Price could easily get to 50k with just these changes.

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June 18, 2014, 04:12:50 PM
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So now we can use VeriCoin anywhere we can use Bitcoin, we can send VeriCoin with text messaging, and we can send it anonymously. What a great technical accomplishment!

Most investors in new coins only care about anon right now because it is the current fad. And many people dont trust a coins anon tech until its fully released in the wallet so during beta testing phases we wont get much attention. Once VeriSend is released out of beta I can see VRC hitting 50k within two days.

Sadly I think having 24 million coins VS the other alts like XC having 6 million means all things being even we could probably only do 1/4 of XC price or half CRYPT price. But because VRC is much better than those coins I think we should still see 200k in a month`s time.

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June 18, 2014, 04:25:06 PM
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Seems people are asking the CRYPT critic to take a look at VRC's tech.

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptCoin/comments/28e8be/security_analysis_of_cryptcoins_cryptcast_feature/

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June 18, 2014, 04:51:21 PM
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How's this for an ETA!!


https://twitter.com/VeriCoin

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June 18, 2014, 04:51:56 PM
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veriwiki would be nice ,  with aaaalll the questions people have been answered by dev and community. Smiley
Like DRK have . By the way can somebody explain me this centralisation stuff everyone is FUD arround?
our PoS system works...and PoS mean PROOF of STAKE  so... that mean WE confirm the transactions.
Cant see any centralisation here. Or am i wrong.

This is where I come in.

I agree a Wiki is helpful.

There are many questions that I see popping up recently. Both in forum and IRC. And I honestly think that's necessary to see a more simple explanation, easily reachable to a broader audience.
What is proof of stake? How does my interest generates? Do I have to keep the wallet open? Why can't I spend my coins? How does the SMS wallet work? What is a SMS gateway? Which number I can use for the SMS wallet? What are the advantages of sending VeriCoin anonymously?
How can I do it? What are cycles?

These are all questions being asked that have simple answers for most of us but deserve a special treatment for a broader audience. As far as I know there are many people trying trading without even knowing what they're buying and selling. Getting people to know what VRC is about will be the game changer. We need new potential holders to know what these features mean. We need to make it easy for them to use it.

Why should you buy VeriCoin anyway? Presenting this answer is explaining all of the features, demonstrating how easy they are to use and why are they so special and unique.

We probably need a YouTube channel and all that, but let's start from the basics maybe? I like the new website, and I like the original logo, but in this world the looks are more important than content. Not for you and me, but for general acceptance. I can name you 1000 companies that are shit yet successful by having good marketing.

Having a great coin: check.
Having a great image: work in progress.

Plus, having a soon to be wallet with all those new features kinda asks for a refreshment as well.

The community is great, should we make a statement for what we need to be changed or upgraded and then set a community bounty? We can easily raise some, but we need to set our goals very specifically before hand. "Need new image, here's bounty" will never achieve desired results.

Let's think on this, and sideways keep on raising attention individually when possible.

A great coin is the whole package. The devs are doing their upmost as everyone can see. It's time for the community to step in.

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June 18, 2014, 05:57:53 PM
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Your wish is my command: http://vericoin.wikia.com/

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June 18, 2014, 06:03:11 PM
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Your wish is my command: http://vericoin.wikia.com/

Experts... fill this wiki with veriknowledge!!
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Your wish is my command: http://vericoin.wikia.com/

Thank you so much!

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It is a bit sad that many are "running" on the gas of delusion. And, by extension, coming with concepts such a "better than..." other coins. Or, in at least one case, mistaken the price per coin for the market cap thus adding to unnecessary confusion.

--FACT is that VRC is no better -nor worse- than hundreds other coins out there, both valued higher and lower than it.
--FACT is that the many flavors of "anon" are just a fad -susceptible of being hyped, of course- that has, in the very short run, an absurd effect on price but will have none long term for it is a feature, when and if completely implementable, that has next to no actual practical purpose.
--FACT is that VRC has a VERY POOR logo and that reflects indeed in the very important appeal that logos can bring.
--FACT is the VRC has no plans whatsoever to take it to the next level in terms of promotion or other efforts to bring it to the mainstream. In other words, no one outside of very well versed cryptoaddicts have even heard of VRC.
--FACT is that no one cares about the potential for software incorporation in the near future this coin may have.
--FACT is that there's no branding efforts in progress, not even plans for ones.
--FACT is that the gimmick of the dynamic interest is of so minimal importance that it doesn't even work as such gimmick.

All of these FACTS hinder the progression and value potential of this coin that is only a nerd game and, therefore, destined to be trading within a range of limited risk mini pumps and dumps, for there's absolutely nothing to look forward in it other than delusion, wild hopes and speculations based on a supposed superiority in programming, or software potential that is very far from proven and that, by the time it comes to fruition, will probably have been already implemented by a significant number of coins, some of them probably with superior overall or even particular product.

Now, every one of the deluded will come with their inevitable attacks and disqualifications because that's the way the cookie crumbles in cryptoland. Sorry but all those FACTS are realities and a sobering dose of it -and hopefully subsequent corrective action- is quite needed. If you want to see the price of this coin to rise, much more is required than lines of code: It is called work, commitment, investment, promotion and dedication on the part of the community.

Ask yourself this question: Why would someone buy VRC now? There are only two possible answers: a) because they think it will go up ion price and they can make a quick profit of 20-30% or b) because they expect it to go much higher than that from the current price and maybe pocket 80-90% or even a double or more. In Either and all cases, no one but no one will buy this coin today because they give it even a glimmer of a chance to some day become an actual storage or value, much less a coin with any practical use in the real world. Unless that perception is changed dramatically, no one will ever invest seriously in this coin.

Now, time to shoot the messenger.




You know, you've said a lot of crap before but this is the first thing you've posted that's been constructive. I'd love to hear your advice on fixing the "FACTs" so we can better the coin. Seriously.

You know, you have posted ONLY crap before, but this is the first time you have shown some capacity to reason. Seriously.

And now that the usual pleasantries have been exchanged and you have exceeded, again, at showing that PR talents simply avoided you completely, you perhaps should ask yourself why on earth would I volunteer any solutions to the obvious problems when even asking, nicely, is such a challenge.

I thought I have made it perfectly clear before that one of the main problems of this coin is the arrogance of the developers which, naturally, has extended to most of the community. Which is really peculiar because it is akin, in some cases, to a 5'5" guy pretending to be taller than a 6'2" one.

Do you really look for a solution to the fact that your logo looks like the Ipad "creation" of a 7-year-old child? Really?

Anyway, a total change in attitude would be a good start to, first, identify and admit the many obvious problems this coin has. Then it would be the time to actually consider potential solutions supported by a community that you have spoon-fed all kinds of fallacies for them to believe that "dynamic" interest is of ANY interest to anyone, SMS is akin to the Second Coming or that VeryBit is somehow a huge innovation (VeriBit actually slows down even more than Bitcoin all transactions, imagine that as an "innovation"...).

Oh but don't feel too too bad, because you are by no means alone in Crypto. Cinni, Caix and I am quite sure several others have been enduring similar arrogance -in all cases, absolutely baseless-. It's only that the markets have, logically, been setting their records straight -just like they have yours- accordingly, rather  emphatically of late.

Of course you will spin this answer as FUD or CRAP or whatever else fits your agenda or your conception of saving face. Worry not: The market will continue showing you the way in a rather "constructive" way.
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