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July 01, 2014, 11:54:19 AM
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Heavy artillery is shelling Slavjansk. aiming at multi-story buildings, targeting flats and chipping away at the supporting walls:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1404213139

The shelling is done from artillery units "Uragan" (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/uragan/), which is much more powerful than "Grad".

The other places that are especially targeted are houses, railway station, water collection points - where the concentration of people is highest.



The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs released a statement saying that Kiev will have to answer for murders of civilians:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1404213703
And again urging Kiev to instil a real and not a fake seize-fire.



Meня yбили пoд Cлaвянcкoм.
Mнe былo ceмь нeпoлныx лeт.
Co мнoй yбиты мaмa c пaпoй,
Убиты бaбyшкa и дeд.

Mнe былo бoльнo, oчeнь бoльнo.
Taк нe бывaeт y дeтeй.
Cкaжи coлдaт, в мeня cтpeлявший,
Чтo cкaжeшь дoчepи cвoeй?

Oтдaшь ли eй мoи игpyшки?
Oтдaшь c pиcyнкaми aльбoм?
Oтдaшь в кpoви мoeй кoтёнкa?
Кaк взглянeшь eй в глaзa пoтoм?

Cкaжи coлдaт, мeня yбивший,
Кaким ты мoлишьcя Бoгaм?
Кoмy пpинёc peбёнкa в жepтвy?
B кaкoй oтдaшь дoбычy xpaм?

Я yмepлa, и я нe плaчy.
Зacтылa нa щeкe cлeзa.
Зaпoмни вpaг, в мeня cтpeлявший,
Убитoй дeвoчки глaзa.

Aвтop – Bячecлaв Бyнeeв



I was killed under Slavjansk.
I wasn’t yet even 7.
My mother and father were killed with me
Killed were my grandma and granddad

It was painful, very painful,
As children never should have felt.
Tell me soldier, you who shot at me,
What will you say to your daughter?

Will you give her my toys?
Will you give her my album with drawings?
Will you give her my blood-covered kitten?
How will you look into her eyes?

Tell me soldier, you who killed me,
Which Gods do you pray to?
Which God did you sacrifice a child to?
To which temple will you bring your pray?

I died, and I am not crying.
The tear has dried upon my cheek.
Remember enemy, who shot at me,
The eyes of the murdered girl.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 01, 2014, 12:25:39 PM
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According to Poroshenko, some 250 members of the Donetsk self-defence were killed in Slavyansk this morning. So that takes the total number of killed rebels to 7,344,583,174 fighters.  Grin
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July 01, 2014, 12:40:42 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKwF1acoZiU

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July 01, 2014, 12:51:00 PM
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According to Poroshenko, some 250 members of the Donetsk self-defence were killed in Slavyansk this morning. So that takes the total number of killed rebels to 7,344,583,174 fighters.  Grin

With the twenty billions that have fled from Ukraine into mother Russia yesterday alone , I too am amazed that there is still somebody fighting there Wink.


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July 01, 2014, 07:44:01 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GB6UJesXn8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_0f-QGn-_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRvEtKysn0k

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July 01, 2014, 08:13:01 PM
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Artillery shelling of Severodonetsk and Lugansk. In that last video, people filming it from their flats are risking their lives.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 02, 2014, 05:06:01 PM
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Check this:

http://lifenews.ru/news/135940

Ukrainian Su-25 bombed civilian apartment. 7 Civilians died and 8 more seriously wounded. There were no militia fighters in the vicinity of the apartment. The Ukrainian Air Force is targeting civilian residences, just to push the local population to Russia.
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July 02, 2014, 09:53:05 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbQf8YGHWOQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O_WynOh-Vk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbIFR9Mf9QU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYDvmPi5U3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qduc1jyS0yM

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July 03, 2014, 10:59:23 AM
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‘Thanks, Ukraine Air Force’: Bombarded villagers accuse Kiev of killing civilians
http://rt.com/news/170104-ukraine-lugansk-shelling-airstrike/

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The village of Kondrashovka in eastern Ukraine lies devastated after shelling by Kiev troops which killed seven people. Bodies torn to pieces are strewn across the settlement and those who survived are asking: why did Kiev kill their families?

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“They killed my mother, and my father is injured. I took him to hospital,” Aleksandr Mironenko told RT’s Marina Finoshina, one of the few journalists to report from the scene.

People are in shock.

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Just next door, Kondrashovka residents are telling a tragic story of their friend, who lost his 5-year-old son.

“He celebrated his son’s fifth birthday yesterday, and today, the boy's leg was cut off – I don’t know if he's alive or not,” said Sergey, a neighbor.

“No, no, he died, said another man.

“He died? Yes. Then he died,” adds Sergey.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 03, 2014, 02:35:27 PM
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Newsflash:
According to a statement from Ukrainian Ministry of Defence, they no longer take prisoners. People who surrender are executed on the spot:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1404396895



“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 03, 2014, 10:13:23 PM
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"Smerch" shooting on Nikolaevka.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4xTECRj9jE

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July 03, 2014, 10:18:29 PM
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Newsflash:
According to a statement from Ukrainian Ministry of Defence, they no longer take prisoners. People who surrender are executed on the spot:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1404396895



Will this ever stop or will it get just worse?!
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Will this ever stop or will it get just worse?!

Ask it on Your Government.

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July 04, 2014, 12:06:29 PM
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Enemy Nazi infantry kills off any survivors in the towns previously razed with the ground by their artillery shelling:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1404456953

The number of artillery rounds used so far seems to exceed the volume used in Chechen wars.

Sterlkov reports that if Russia does not intervene, then the situation looks very grim, Novorossia will die.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 04, 2014, 01:26:40 PM
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Novorossia will die.

Who need this Novorossia?
Problem is ethnic cleansing.

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July 04, 2014, 01:40:39 PM
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Humanitarian disaster in Novorossia - a strange and terrible war is going on:
http://rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1404478991

As not ethnic cleansing. This man put it quite well:
http://rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1404474483

Those who do killing from the nazi side and are caught on video, speak Russian. Those who are being killed, speak Russian. In the parliament, even the radical ones speak Russian off-camera. So that is Ukrainian language and identity? something to brainwash the Western youth to make them into killing machines with a clear "national" idea?

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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Sterlkov reports that if Russia does not intervene, then the situation looks very grim, Novorossia will die.

There are reports that the Novorussian locals are angry at the treachery shown by Putin. They expected him to send in weapons and supplies. But he seems to be having other priorities.

And this is the result:

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Лoзyнги o eдинcтвe c Poccиeй yшли, нa митинги люди идyт yжe бeз poccийcкиx флaгoв, – oтмeчaeт pyкoвoдитeль Accoциaции нeзaвиcимoй пpeccы. И пoпpaвляeт ceбя: – Пpaвдa, coxpaняeтcя eщe мaлeнькaя нaдeждa нa пoмoщь в cлyчae, ecли yкpaинcкaя apмия бyдeт пpoдoлжaть oбcтpeливaть poccийcкyю тeppитopию, чтo yжe пpoиcxoдит.
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July 04, 2014, 02:09:23 PM
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That is so, yet Putin has dilemma - does he risk lives of a very large number of Russians by doing what Washingtons wants him to do and dragging Russia into a new World War (think WWI), or does he sacrifice a smaller number of people and denies Washington warmongeres the pleasure of calling Russia an aggressor and attacking it.

In the meantime:


“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyX9ScfUx84

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As the time passes, I find more and more striking similarities between Putin's way of handling this crisis and Serbian wartime president Milosevic's relationship with rebellious Serbian minorities in Croatia and Bosnia. At first, Milosevic was encouraging them to take arms and provided material support. Message was clear: fight, and you will stay in Yugoslavia. But the international community condemned his actions, put Serbia under the harsh economic blockade which Russia also joined, and sided with Croatia and Bosnia (that's including direct military help). Milosevic then pulled out, cut the supply lines and basically left those people alone.

Results: in Croatia, crushing defeat followed by mass exodus - today Serbs constitute 4% of total Croatian population, down from the prewar 12%; in Bosnia, major defeat - large Serbian entity there survived but only as constitutive part of sovereign Bosnian state.

Today, many Serbs will tell you that Milosevic was a traitor and coward. Same words we're starting to hear from Russian people not only in eastern Ukraine but their mainland as well.
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