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May 21, 2014, 08:09:12 AM
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Fidel Castro lived like a king in Cuba, book claims

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/21/fidel-castro-lived-like-king-cuba

<< Former bodyguard Juan Reinaldo Sánchez writes that leader ran country like a cross between medieval overlord and Louis XV. >>

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May 21, 2014, 08:27:26 AM
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Fidel Castro lived like a king in Cuba, book claims

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/21/fidel-castro-lived-like-king-cuba

<< Former bodyguard Juan Reinaldo Sánchez writes that leader ran country like a cross between medieval overlord and Louis XV. >>

I have come across multiple stories about castro from western media. But it is difficult to know the reality unless someone from Cuba actually speaks up in the forum.

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May 21, 2014, 09:45:07 AM
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That is the whole point of socialism...bringing back the days of kings.

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May 21, 2014, 09:56:24 AM
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That is the whole point of socialism...bringing back the days of kings.

Not just socialism.

Capitalism or society run by religious madman are no difference.
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May 21, 2014, 11:35:36 AM
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I doubt that you can know something about life of Fidel even if you live on Cuba. You see, normal people does not know much about their leaders life. As you may have know former president of Ukraine lived king's life and everyone knew about it. Yet, it was shocking where pictures of his mansions, cars, arts and overall huge wealth were published. Life of Fidel is no different I think. No surprise there.


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May 21, 2014, 11:48:25 AM
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Yes it happens here too.  Information about the rich's lifestyle is published but not necessarily publicized knowledge.  

I was watching a documentary about the mega rich and one (billionaire?) guy was bragging about how he bought six mansions on his street - because he "didn't want any neighbours".     Mind you, this opulence of wealth is in the Great Recession America where many people have lost their jobs and modest homes and some reduced to living on the streets.

The living arrangements of the rich are something most people in this society can't imagine and they don't want to know, because they would be envious.

Myself I was watching the television the "Housewives of (insert city)", and the television show caused huge backlash in my city that it didn't make it to season 3.

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May 24, 2014, 11:54:11 PM
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What a surprise...
Even in Republics, absolute power tends to create a life of a King and, in certain cases, real kingdoms, with power going to the closest family member: North Korea, Syria and, of course, Cuba, from Fidel to Raul Castro.

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May 25, 2014, 01:15:48 AM
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An autocratic leader in a third-world country that came to power through a military coup ruled like a king? You wouldn't say! I hope that guy's book has more interesting revelations, because everyone already knows that...

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May 25, 2014, 01:21:42 AM
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That is the whole point of socialism...bringing back the days of kings.

Not just socialism.

Capitalism or society run by religious madman are no difference.

exactly, the ancaps here are anti socialism and all, but i think capitalism leads to the same shit.

but it's not just religion.. it's a system of government that rewards the sycophantic power hungry people.
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May 25, 2014, 02:08:18 AM
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Give absolute power to someone and it isn't important if it's secular or religions rule, capitalist or socialist. He will abuse his power, if not for him (that would be very rare, but there are serious people everywhere) at least for his family and friends (and, probably, also for his enemies).

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May 25, 2014, 02:11:46 AM
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no one institution or group of people have complete ownership on corruption and greed... except for the human race. ancaps seem to think that "government" is the lowest common denominator, but it's actually just human nature.
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May 27, 2014, 10:30:46 AM
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That is the whole point of socialism...bringing back the days of kings.

Not just socialism.

Capitalism or society run by religious madman are no difference.

+1

socialism is the best way for normal living

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May 27, 2014, 11:29:53 AM
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To told the truth. Socialism, capitalism or communism even all are good political systems. The only problem it is just theory. People will make any system flawed and corrupt, because they are flawed themselves. That is just state of things here on earth. Nothing is perfect.

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May 27, 2014, 12:23:59 PM
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That is the whole point of socialism...bringing back the days of kings.
Yes agreed. It's ideally good but practically not so good.

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May 27, 2014, 02:09:27 PM
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I respect Fidel Castro and I think he is a great politician.
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May 27, 2014, 02:34:39 PM
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You know, this doesn't surprise me. What's the use of being a supreme dictator if you can't live like a king.
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May 27, 2014, 08:01:23 PM
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On the case of Cuba, tell me about a country where political leaders stay in power until their death, or quasi-death, and I won't have much doubts about their nature as a dictatorship.
China, under this perspective, is remarkable, because even if their elections don't have real choices, at least there is rotation in power. That avoids the worst cases of abuse.

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May 27, 2014, 08:12:27 PM
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no one institution or group of people have complete ownership on corruption and greed... except for the human race. ancaps seem to think that "government" is the lowest common denominator, but it's actually just human nature.

Human nature is malleable.

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May 27, 2014, 08:27:29 PM
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no one institution or group of people have complete ownership on corruption and greed... except for the human race. ancaps seem to think that "government" is the lowest common denominator, but it's actually just human nature.

Human nature is malleable.

yeah but so what? so he the role of government. either way, government and human nature are collectively fucked up.
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May 27, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
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no one institution or group of people have complete ownership on corruption and greed... except for the human race. ancaps seem to think that "government" is the lowest common denominator, but it's actually just human nature.

Human nature is malleable.

yeah but so what? so he the role of government. either way, government and human nature are collectively fucked up.

What do you mean, "so what"?  Are you okay with the world is today?  Because obviously you think it's fucked up, and so do I.  So how do you fix it?  As I said, human nature is malleable, so if you seek a better world, you have to raise better humans.  Where does this primarily occur?  In parenting.  When parents raise their children peacefully and rationally, you get a generation of peaceful, rational children.  What do peaceful, rational children do?  They play nicely: they share, they don't hit, they don't lie, they respect each other's things.  Which system is a mirror of these values?  Anarchism and capitalism: statism necessitates a violation of property rights, and socialism (the "property is theft" sort) necessitates a violation of property rights, and people who will not put up with this support neither; because people today are raised constantly having their property violated, e.g. spanking, time-out, having things taken from them, on and on, these values are mirrored in the state: you have an entity which can punish, put in prison, and take things away such as taxes, and you have individuals who have to put up with it for the good of society.  It's a mirror; modern government is an extension of "human nature", as are all forms of social organization, including Anarcho-Capitalism.  So: who adheres to AnCap beliefs?  People who are going to raise their children peacefully and rationally, who will fix this world and shape a culture which doesn't accept where the world is going now.

I'm pointing out that your observations are shallow and your intentions are worthless, if you've yet to catch on.

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