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May 28, 2014, 08:04:51 AM
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http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09959.html



http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09963.html



http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09964.html





That's my definitive proof clearly showing that Satoshi Nakamoto is indeed James A. Donald, unless I'm missing something so obvious like: Satoshi Nakamoto is so God-like, not only was he at his computer, at the ready, for the first question pertaining to Bitcoin, but when it finally arrived one day later, he not only was able to read the content, but fired up a detailed response, then click post, all within...wait for it...42 seconds.

I can only imagine Satoshi jumping into his DeLorean E-MC2 and heading on down to Milliways after accomplishing such a feat.

I might as well lock this thread now, for no further discussion is warranted, but I guess the most prudent thing to do is see if the poll reflects my claim.

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May 28, 2014, 08:14:35 AM
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Does it really matter who Satoshi is?
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May 28, 2014, 08:24:38 AM
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Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?
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May 28, 2014, 08:26:17 AM
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I often wonder if most of the things you write are just meant as a joke or if you are serious.
In case you are serious:
A timestamp is not really proof for anything. I saw a lot of cases where timestamps are just wrong.

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I think Satoshi Nakamoto does not exist!

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May 28, 2014, 08:30:38 AM
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Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?

People let Santa Claus mess with their children every Christmas so no, not really. "Sit in my lap and whisper what you want in my ear and I'll give you candy." Really?

Anyways, now let's wait for a new message to pop up like the last one about the other Satoshi, "I am not James A. Donald."


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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May 28, 2014, 08:39:02 AM
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http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09959.html


http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09963.html



http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09964.html



That's my definitive proof clearly showing that Satoshi Nakamoto is indeed James A. Donald, unless I'm missing something so obvious like: Satoshi Nakamoto is so God-like, not only was he at his computer, at the ready, for the first question pertaining to Bitcoin, but when it finally arrived one day later, he not only was able to read the content, but fired up a detailed response, then click post, all within...wait for it...42 seconds.

I can only imagine Satoshi jumping into his DeLorean E-MC2 and heading on down to Milliways after accomplishing such a feat.

I might as well lock this thread now, for no further discussion is warranted, but I guess the most prudent thing to do is see if the poll reflects my claim.

~Bruno Kucinskas

Who is James A. Donald by the way ? I just found a wikipedia editor of this name, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:James_A._Donald, but no wikipedia entry !!!

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May 28, 2014, 08:50:24 AM
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Well spotted, although could it be due to a regional daylight savings time difference which changes around Oct/Nov and the timespan 1:00:42?

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May 28, 2014, 08:51:46 AM
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http://www.metzdowd.com/



https://www.linkedin.com/pub/perry-metzger/4/71a/159

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May 28, 2014, 08:55:37 AM
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Well spotted, although could it be due to a regional daylight savings time difference which changes around Oct/Nov and the timespan 1:00:42?



Exactly 42 seconds. No added minute.

17:56:27 - 17:55:45 = :42

That's my timestamp, and I'm sticking to it.
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May 28, 2014, 08:55:54 AM
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I often wonder if most of the things you write are just meant as a joke or if you are serious.
In case you are serious:
A timestamp is not really proof for anything. I saw a lot of cases where timestamps are just wrong.

If you look up the same mail dialogue at other archives you'll see different timestamps:
http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.general/month=20081101
http://diswww.mit.edu/bloom-picayune/crypto/136763

Without being able to look at the original headers, I don't know what the exact sending times could be.
The mit.edu archive has header lines that look plausible and might be from the original mails:
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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:46:23 +1000
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
To: satoshi@vistomail.com
CC: cryptography@metzdowd.com
In-Reply-To: <CHILKAT-MID-dd013ecc-8c7f-fc14-b1c5-cc9fd0181098@server123>
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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:37:43 +0800
From: "Satoshi Nakamoto" <satoshi@vistomail.com>
Reply-To: satoshi@vistomail.com
To: jamesd@echeque.com
Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com

As you see, these timestamps claim different timezones, and are almost 2 hours apart, which is perfectly reasonable. Whether they are correct is another question, +1000 is in use in Eastern Australia and Siberia, while +0800 would be used in Western Australia and China. These do not necessarily indicate the actual location of mail users, of course.

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May 28, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
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Looks like J.A. may have been stirring the wrong pot: http://marc.info/?l=cryptography-randombit&m=137849729602738&w=2

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Subject:    Re: [cryptography] regarding the NSA crypto "breakthrough"
From:       "James A. Donald" <jamesd () echeque ! com>
Date:       2013-09-06 18:47:16
Message-ID: 522A2334.60208 () echeque ! com
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On 2013-09-06 7:01 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> The claims are that some code and magic constants have been weakened,
> but also that NSA still has problems with some methods. We need to
> know. Obviously, as a short-term workaround there's fallback to
> expensive/inconvenient methods like one-time pads, but long-term we
> obviously need new cyphers. Not tainted by any TLA poison.

Time to generate and select new elliptic curves by an open process,
wherein any large random quantities are chosen by a non secret process,
such as searching for the appropriate value nearest a round number.
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May 28, 2014, 09:12:27 AM
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What IS up with Wasabi Systems?

April 2009:
http://tech.nifelheim.info/2009/04/whats-up-with-wasabi-systems-inc/

"Just got off the phone with the former Director of Support Services who worked at Wasabi until July of last year.
Wasabi was indeed a venture capital backed company, and went through a number of ’rounds’ of funding.
Recently my contact received a resume from a former employee of his asking about available openings at his current employer. This was a programmer who worked directly on the ip-san kernel.
Also the phone number 757-248-9601 now leads directly to Mr Frank Logan’s voicemail. Frank is / was the President / CEO of Wasabi.
All points I’ve researched show Wasabi to be shuttered.
Anyone have any other clues?"

"It seems they were taken to court (or subpoenad?) recently for patent violation, along with some other storage system vendors:
http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/04/05/New_Complaints.htm"

"The shoe dropped on 3/13. I don’t know about senior management, but everyone else had zero notice. On 3/12, Ian E. had no idea. AFAIK all the physical stuff in the office was liquidated, so Wasabi’s really gone. I don’t know what happened to the IP; I think Frank L. was trying to find buyers for it.
Most of the survivors are on linkedin, and many are still looking for work. I’m sure at least some of us would be willing to take contract work."



At least this guy's got an impressive resumé:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/fglogan
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May 28, 2014, 11:14:27 AM
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Sorry but I am not seeing proof - I am seeing two emails between two different people.

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May 28, 2014, 11:23:00 AM
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I think James A. Donald was not included in the recent linguistic study:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/111179/what_s_in_a_name_linguistic_study_identifies_nick_szabo_as_the_real_satoshi_nakamoto

It would be interesting to see how close he is to Satoshi compared to Nick Szabo.
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May 28, 2014, 12:15:26 PM
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Sorry but I am not seeing proof - I am seeing two emails between two different people.

Can some one please explain like I am five?  Grin
The second E-Mail was written at 17:55:45, the third was written at 17:56:27.

Phinnaeus Gage claims that Satoshi can not have read the second E-Mail and answered it in 42 seconds. There for the third must have been prepared before the second was even send.

I say, the timestamps are just wrong.

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May 28, 2014, 12:30:22 PM
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This isn't definitive proof whatsoever. Feel free to edit your thread name to something less sensationalist
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May 28, 2014, 12:54:14 PM
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May 28, 2014, 01:35:14 PM
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OR... the two parties discussed this privately before agreeing to post the question and answer publicly. If James was anything but certain about the validity of his concern, discussing it privately removes the possibility of publicly looking like an idiot.

OR... the timestamps are updated when an edit is made.

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May 28, 2014, 01:50:40 PM
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OR... the two parties discussed this privately before agreeing to post the question and answer publicly. If James was anything but certain about the validity of his concern, discussing it privately removes the possibility of publicly looking like an idiot.

OR... the timestamps are updated when an edit is made.
I am more interested in the fact about Gaving being the founder/CTO of Wasabi Systems Inc

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