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June 09, 2014, 12:45:02 PM
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Mine would be Napoleon Bonaparte! He was a great French emperor who was loved by a lot of his subjects. When he was exiled by his political foes, he chose to escape captivity and marched a small army to Paris itself! Cheesy And when he was confronted by the enemy (his former) army, he said "If there is one of you who would kill his Emperor, here I am." They instead surrendered to him and joined him to claim France back into his rule. Too bad he was not an economist. He barely ruled for 100 days after his return from exile.
Napoleon Bonaparte was indeed a great man... Besides being a great military leader he has contributed in various different ways.. The way he had reorganized the legal structure of France was revolutionary..
Mine is Napoleon Bonaparte too! Although for reasons different than Noviapriani. My reason is because of Napoleon's enforcement of the 'Napoleonic Code' to areas where he conquered.
The Napoleonic code is a revolutionary set of laws in its time which allowed freedom of religion, not allowing privileges based on birth and selection of civil servants based on merit!
The Napoleonic code was subsequently adopted by many countries in the world! It is not unfair to say that we might not have the many liberties we have today without him!

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June 09, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
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He has been doing a great job,, strengthened his own country as well as allowed to others to flourish...

Strengthening the country? Examples are here:

1. Public debt is at record high
2. US Dollar is getting more and more devalued.
3. The economy still remains in shambles.
Obama  tough for  Medicare or 'Obamacare' as many people like to call it. He realized the need for cheap & affordable healthcare for US citizens and pushed for the bill to pass through despite heavy opposition from his political opponents.

In the past, if you get sick as a US citizen, you had to pay an arm and a leg for healthcare expenses and that financially devastated many families whereas countries like Canada already had free healthcare for a long time.

It was just unthinkable that a developed first world country like US did not have a plan to afford to provide medical care for its citizens whereas their neighboring countries can. I'm glad that Obama has now fixed the issue.

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June 10, 2014, 01:43:16 AM
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He has been doing a great job,, strengthened his own country as well as allowed to others to flourish...

Strengthening the country? Examples are here:

1. Public debt is at record high
2. US Dollar is getting more and more devalued.
3. The economy still remains in shambles.
Obama  tough for  Medicare or 'Obamacare' as many people like to call it. He realized the need for cheap & affordable healthcare for US citizens and pushed for the bill to pass through despite heavy opposition from his political opponents.

In the past, if you get sick as a US citizen, you had to pay an arm and a leg for healthcare expenses and that financially devastated many families whereas countries like Canada already had free healthcare for a long time.

It was just unthinkable that a developed first world country like US did not have a plan to afford to provide medical care for its citizens whereas their neighboring countries can. I'm glad that Obama has now fixed the issue.

Holy shit where to start.......

Obama did not provide healthcare to anyone. He gave a handout to insurance companies by using the threat of government force to compel people to buy a commercial product. Do you know who is paying the IRS penalties? The same poor people that this abomination of a bill was supposed to help.

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June 10, 2014, 02:58:14 AM
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Holy shit where to start.......

Obama did not provide healthcare to anyone. He gave a handout to insurance companies by using the threat of government force to compel people to buy a commercial product. Do you know who is paying the IRS penalties? The same poor people that this abomination of a bill was supposed to help.

Also, a lot of mid-sized and small-sized companies were forced to close their operations, after Obama made it mandatory for the employer to provide healthcare for the employees.

                               
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June 11, 2014, 07:55:45 PM
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No one mention Genghis Khan?
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June 11, 2014, 07:59:54 PM
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No one mention Genghis Khan?

why would anyone see that barbaric warlord as his favorite political figure?

Mine is Spartacus as he created an army of gladiators and slaves which rose from 70 to over 40 000 men

It's interesting how Romans forced them to kill for their own fun, and when the tables turned it wasn't that fun as they had to fight each other Smiley
His acts teach a good lesson Smiley

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June 11, 2014, 08:08:08 PM
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Sun Tzu, for writing what is essentially a pocket book on how to build an army and conquer a country

Ron Paul, for being one of the only genuine human beings in politics, I disagree with him on various things but he's one of the few people who just says what he believes in rather than dance around it because it might make him unpopular with a certain group

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June 11, 2014, 08:33:06 PM
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No one mention Genghis Khan?

why would anyone see that barbaric warlord as his favorite political figure?

Mine is Spartacus as he created an army of gladiators and slaves which rose from 70 to over 40 000 men

It's interesting how Romans forced them to kill for their own fun, and when the tables turned it wasn't that fun as they had to fight each other Smiley
His acts teach a good lesson Smiley

A barbaric warlord that not only conquered China but also half of Europe and part of middle east with no aid of modern technology?

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June 12, 2014, 04:00:40 AM
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A barbaric warlord that not only conquered China but also half of Europe and part of middle east with no aid of modern technology?

That will be an overestimation.

1. His army was huge. Many times bigger than most of the European armies.
2. His military technology was much better than the Europeans.
3. If the Europeans were united, then he could have been defeated easily.

                               
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June 12, 2014, 07:46:52 AM
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"The US economy added 217,000 jobs in May. The unemployment rate held steady at 6.3%, a five-and-a-half year low.

With last month’s job growth, the US has finally recovered all of the jobs it lost during the Great Recession. (That’s without adjusting for population growth; economists estimate there are about 7 million more working-age Americans today than there were at the previous employment peak in January 2008.) "

http://www.dailykos.com/217695/the-...reat-recession/

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June 12, 2014, 07:49:51 AM
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how many of those jobs are EQUAL (pay, benefits, etc) to what was lost.

You will find the libs very quiet on that area

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June 12, 2014, 07:57:57 AM
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how many of those jobs are EQUAL (pay, benefits, etc) to what was lost.

You will find the libs very quiet on that area
2.9% of the labor force. It's in the second graph in the last post sana made


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June 12, 2014, 07:59:11 AM
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how many of those jobs are EQUAL (pay, benefits, etc) to what was lost.

You will find the libs very quiet on that area
2.9% of the labor force. It's in the second graph in the last post sana made


You're welcome.
Reading comprehension is not your strong point obviously.

That did not address pay or benefits.

Nice try though- clearly a lawyer in the making

   
What Obama and company will not do is have this question asked:

"Of those that have lost their jobs and got ones back- how many have a job situation equal or better then what they originally lost."

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June 12, 2014, 08:09:03 AM
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how many of those jobs are EQUAL (pay, benefits, etc) to what was lost.

You will find the libs very quiet on that area
2.9% of the labor force. It's in the second graph in the last post sana made


You're welcome.
Reading comprehension is not your strong point obviously.

That did not address pay or benefits.

Nice try though- clearly a lawyer in the making

   
What Obama and company will not do is have this question asked:

"Of those that have lost their jobs and got ones back- how many have a job situation equal or better then what they originally lost."
That figure covers underemployment, which is what you're talking about.
Also a bubble burst there has to be some correction, am I right?

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June 12, 2014, 08:17:39 AM
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That chart is hardly a good representation of people who are underemployed. It only points out people who are working part time because they cannot obtain a full time job when the definition of underemployment not only encompasses that, but anyone in any job that is not being paid a wage/working a job that utilizes their full scope of skills and talents.

A computer engineer of 15 years working full time as a grunt for the TSA still has a full time job with benefits but is horribly underemployed. Underemployment isnt strictly about hours.

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June 12, 2014, 08:58:17 AM
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I like Emperor Peter the Great. He is one of the most significant figures in Russian history.
I just came back from Saint Petersburg trip, the city is all about Peter the Great(you can tell by the name)
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June 12, 2014, 09:36:01 AM
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Clinton and Alan Greenspan.


Created dotcom bubble and now we are enjoying lots of entertainment for free.
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June 12, 2014, 09:58:29 AM
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Mandela
Genghis Khan
Suleyman the Magnificent
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June 12, 2014, 01:48:56 PM
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Genghis Khan

He created a peace called pax mongolica that help the social, cultural, and economic life of the inhabitants of the vast Eurasian territory that the Mongols conquered. It help ease the communication and commerce. He and his predecessors create trade routes that link West to East. He created a much faster pony express. He promote/choose based on your merits and loyalty not by lineage. He does not discriminate religions.

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June 12, 2014, 01:59:55 PM
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Historically I would say Genghis Kahn, he made some really good achievements and was a wise man of the time he lived in. 
In the present I would say the only non-puppet and only reasonable politician out there: Vladimir Putin - wants peace, is intelligent, isn't an insane dictator like obama

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