Life after Silk Road: how the darknet drugs market is booming

[TheIrishman]

Life after Silk Road: how the darknet drugs market is booming

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/30/life-after-silk-road-how-the-darknet-drugs-market-is-booming

<< Buying drugs and weapons online is far easier since the closure of Silk Road in 2013, after a dozen new sites have taken its place. >>

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[Charlie Prime]

Good.  I am so sick of this communist B.S. where people don't even own their own bodies.

[Benjig]

Life after Silk Road: how the darknet drugs market is booming

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/30/life-after-silk-road-how-the-darknet-drugs-market-is-booming

<< Buying drugs and weapons online is far easier since the closure of Silk Road in 2013, after a dozen new sites have taken its place. >>

But i dont know how the people keep buying into those scam markets, not only alot of people lost btcs in the silkroad closure but many were scammed on the other two markets.

[Trading]

Actually, Silk road II was hacked, lost a lot of bitcoins, promised to pay back and already paid 80% of their debt back or, at least, they are claiming that.

[ShibaWow]

Life after Silk Road: how the darknet drugs market is booming

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/30/life-after-silk-road-how-the-darknet-drugs-market-is-booming

<< Buying drugs and weapons online is far easier since the closure of Silk Road in 2013, after a dozen new sites have taken its place. >>

But i dont know how the people keep buying into those scam markets, not only alot of people lost btcs in the silkroad closure but many were scammed on the other two markets.

they want cheap drugs

they risk it

I lost 0.18BTC myself when sheep marketplace went down

[Spendulus]

Life after Silk Road: how the darknet drugs market is booming

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/30/life-after-silk-road-how-the-darknet-drugs-market-is-booming

<< Buying drugs and weapons online is far easier since the closure of Silk Road in 2013, after a dozen new sites have taken its place. >>

But i dont know how the people keep buying into those scam markets, not only alot of people lost btcs in the silkroad closure but many were scammed on the other two markets.

The essence of the scam is where Dread Pirate (or his current replacements) says "Give me your bitcoins and I'll hold them for you until you want to buy something from my bad-ass site".

This is different from sending a seller your bitcoins directly, and it is different than a transaction involving escrow.
they want cheap drugs

they risk it

I lost 0.18BTC myself when sheep marketplace went down

[vokain]

Spendulus, what was the point of quoting the above guys post? what are you trying to prove man

[Spendulus]

Spendulus, what was the point of quoting the above guys post? what are you trying to prove man

You are right.  I wrote into the post instead of below it.  Here is correction.

But i dont know how the people keep buying into those scam markets, not only alot of people lost btcs in the silkroad closure but many were scammed on the other two markets.

I lost 0.18BTC myself when sheep marketplace went down

The essence of the scam is where Dread Pirate (or his current replacements) says "Give me your bitcoins and I'll hold them for you until you want to buy something from my bad-ass site".

This is different from sending a seller your bitcoins directly, and it is different than a transaction involving escrow.

[vokain]

Ah didn't see it. Apologize for any malfeance on my part. I thought you were just quoting his text on having money on a black marketplace just for posterity.

[beetcoin]

one major benefit of darknet drug markets: consistency. a vendor has to keep up with his reputation on purity, so people are less likely to get bad stuff that they might OD on. not to mention it would weaken the drug cartels.

[Ron~Popeil]

I don't have any personal qualms about people buying whatever they want online. In the case of something going wrong however you have no recourse to recover your bit coin.

[beetcoin]

I don't have any personal qualms about people buying whatever they want online. In the case of something going wrong however you have no recourse to recover your bit coin.

i don't support child pornography or selling illegal firearms/weapons.. those don't really have a net positive effect, but the the darknet drugs do have a help. history has shown that you can't defeat drugs, but what you can do is.. not make things worse.

[Ron~Popeil]

I don't have any personal qualms about people buying whatever they want online. In the case of something going wrong however you have no recourse to recover your bit coin.

i don't support child pornography or selling illegal firearms/weapons.. those don't really have a net positive effect, but the the darknet drugs do have a help. history has shown that you can't defeat drugs, but what you can do is.. not make things worse.

You will never eradicate all of it. Child porn will always be out there for the sickos that want to find it. Firearms are simply tools with no morality to them.

[beetcoin]

I don't have any personal qualms about people buying whatever they want online. In the case of something going wrong however you have no recourse to recover your bit coin.

i don't support child pornography or selling illegal firearms/weapons.. those don't really have a net positive effect, but the the darknet drugs do have a help. history has shown that you can't defeat drugs, but what you can do is.. not make things worse.

You will never eradicate all of it. Child porn will always be out there for the sickos that want to find it. Firearms are simply tools with no morality to them.

i'm not talking about eradication though.. i just don't support those two things like i do with drug trade.

[Spendulus]

I don't have any personal qualms about people buying whatever they want online. In the case of something going wrong however you have no recourse to recover your bit coin.

i don't support child pornography or selling illegal firearms/weapons.. those don't really have a net positive effect, but the the darknet drugs do have a help. history has shown that you can't defeat drugs, but what you can do is.. not make things worse.

You will never eradicate all of it. Child porn will always be out there for the sickos that want to find it. Firearms are simply tools with no morality to them.

i'm not talking about eradication though.. i just don't support those two things like i do with drug trade.

I hear there are some vigilante groups sprang up in Mexico, fighting the drug gangs that have taken over and terrorized their land.  These groups use illegal firearms, and they shoot them.  They don't just wave them around.

Well, just a note.  There are some people who would disagree with you on drugs, and disagree with you on firearms.

I guess though they might AGREE with you on the darknet drugs as and if it eroded the cartal power base.  But that's evidence of a wider problem, as Mexico can't even get the Ebay economy functioning across it's borders.  In other words, Mexico can't operate "darknet drug sales", because it can't even trade simple crap with Ebay with US consumers.  Thus a corrupt country, with corruption at the borders regarding goods in and out, destroys not just simple everyday cases of free trade, but also the specific issue you cite of the "benefits of darknet drugs", and assists the drug cartals in their power grabs.

Neither are we any better with the "war against drugs" and the agencies founded and funded with such an ill defined mission profile.

[nickenburg]

Ofcourse once people have seen how easy it is to buy drugs from anywhere anonymously with bitcoins.
They dont want to go back to the old way, Once the toothpaste is out of the tube it cant go back!
Atleast drugdealers are honest about there product online, because there are alot of reviewers that can say you have a bad product.
And the violence on the streets is must be also decreasing because of that, but there will always be some people that dont like this like big cartels in Mexico.
There income is lower because of this so they want to change that.

[beetcoin]

I don't have any personal qualms about people buying whatever they want online. In the case of something going wrong however you have no recourse to recover your bit coin.

i don't support child pornography or selling illegal firearms/weapons.. those don't really have a net positive effect, but the the darknet drugs do have a help. history has shown that you can't defeat drugs, but what you can do is.. not make things worse.

You will never eradicate all of it. Child porn will always be out there for the sickos that want to find it. Firearms are simply tools with no morality to them.

i'm not talking about eradication though.. i just don't support those two things like i do with drug trade.

I hear there are some vigilante groups sprang up in Mexico, fighting the drug gangs that have taken over and terrorized their land.  These groups use illegal firearms, and they shoot them.  They don't just wave them around.

Well, just a note.  There are some people who would disagree with you on drugs, and disagree with you on firearms.

I guess though they might AGREE with you on the darknet drugs as and if it eroded the cartal power base.  But that's evidence of a wider problem, as Mexico can't even get the Ebay economy functioning across it's borders.  In other words, Mexico can't operate "darknet drug sales", because it can't even trade simple crap with Ebay with US consumers.  Thus a corrupt country, with corruption at the borders regarding goods in and out, destroys not just simple everyday cases of free trade, but also the specific issue you cite of the "benefits of darknet drugs", and assists the drug cartals in their power grabs.

Neither are we any better with the "war against drugs" and the agencies founded and funded with such an ill defined mission profile.

we're not talking about mexico as a consumer of drugs though. we are talking about it as being an exporter of it.

[Spendulus]

I don't have any personal qualms about people buying whatever they want online. In the case of something going wrong however you have no recourse to recover your bit coin.

i don't support child pornography or selling illegal firearms/weapons.. those don't really have a net positive effect, but the the darknet drugs do have a help. history has shown that you can't defeat drugs, but what you can do is.. not make things worse.

You will never eradicate all of it. Child porn will always be out there for the sickos that want to find it. Firearms are simply tools with no morality to them.

i'm not talking about eradication though.. i just don't support those two things like i do with drug trade.

I hear there are some vigilante groups sprang up in Mexico, fighting the drug gangs that have taken over and terrorized their land.  These groups use illegal firearms, and they shoot them.  They don't just wave them around.

Well, just a note.  There are some people who would disagree with you on drugs, and disagree with you on firearms.

I guess though they might AGREE with you on the darknet drugs as and if it eroded the cartal power base.  But that's evidence of a wider problem, as Mexico can't even get the Ebay economy functioning across it's borders.  In other words, Mexico can't operate "darknet drug sales", because it can't even trade simple crap with Ebay with US consumers.  Thus a corrupt country, with corruption at the borders regarding goods in and out, destroys not just simple everyday cases of free trade, but also the specific issue you cite of the "benefits of darknet drugs", and assists the drug cartals in their power grabs.

Neither are we any better with the "war against drugs" and the agencies founded and funded with such an ill defined mission profile.

we're not talking about mexico as a consumer of drugs though. we are talking about it as being an exporter of it.

Right, I understand that.  What I am saying is that you are not likely to see "darknet drug trade" from that direction, because trade is fundamentally all screwed up down there.  That's the vacuum that the drug cartals filled.

[Trading]

I wonder if we'll see the big cartels doing DOS on Silk road or denouncing their owners to the police (or doing worst) in order to end online competition.

Anonymity might be helpful not only against the police.

[ShibaWow]

I wonder if we'll see the big cartels doing DOS on Silk road or denouncing their owners to the police (or doing worst) in order to end online competition.

Anonymity might be helpful not only against the police.

I don't think so

there's one advantage of getting drugs from dealers instead of online

you get the stuff right away instead of waiting for 30 days or so

there will always be people who want the stuff right away

dealers will remain