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April 30, 2011, 01:33:05 AM
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"The client mixes account funds by default, and the current client makes no attempt to maintain any kind of seperation of funds."

can u explain this further? 
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April 30, 2011, 01:34:50 AM
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how do u earn btc anonymously? ...
Wear a mask while you're selling your body for BTC?

(I dont always get new reply notifications, pls send a pm when you think it has happened)

Wanna gimme some BTC for any or no reason? 1FmvtS66LFh6ycrXDwKRQTexGJw4UWiqDX Smiley

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April 30, 2011, 02:17:37 AM
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cypherdoc I would recommend reading this: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Anonymity

In short, client mixes funds and if any of your addresses can be associated with your real id, then it's game over. However this same principle can be used in reverse, which is explained in the link above.
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April 30, 2011, 02:49:09 AM
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The simple counter to the "Bitcoins are being used for illegal activities and should be banned" argument is that, since bitcoins have a transaction record easily available on the public net, without even needing a search warrant or anything, bitcoins are actually *more* traceable than cash.  You don't need to set someone up with marked bills.  *Every* bill is marked.  When the politicians finally get around to trumpeting about how it's a haven for criminals, be sure to point that out.  It's no worse than bank transfers between numbered accounts, and it's considerably easier for law enforcement to follow any trail that gets left behind.

If they can show a direct association between an address and the suspect, then yes.

That's gonna be quite entertaining seeing plod get up to speed with the intricacies of tracinf transactions through the block chain ... probably be some consultancy BTC in for experts in blockchain analysis ... hmmm might start a web site, Sam Spade block chain private detective.

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April 30, 2011, 04:16:19 AM
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Bitcoin is cash. Expect the negative press.
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April 30, 2011, 05:31:37 AM
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Just thought I'd cross post this here...

A friend of mine has been following the discussion regarding SilkRoad and decided to check it out. He emailed me this blurb from the "new listing" page.

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Please do not list forged documents including fake ids, passports, and counterfeit currency.
Please do not list anything who's purpose is to harm or defraud, such as stolen credit cards, assassinations, and weapons of mass destruction (chemical/bio weaponry, nukes, and anything used to make them).
* See below for details

* These restrictions are in place for both practical and idealogical reasons.

Practically speaking, there are many powerful adversaries of Silk Road and if we are to survive, we must not take them all on at once. Additionally, if you try to please everyone, you will wind up pleasing no one. So certain things are restricted just so we don't scare too many off.

On a moral level, we take the high road, pun intended Wink. Those who seek to control the behavior of their neighbors through force are immoral. Silk Road exists to circumvent that force and provide a safe-haven where civilized people can come together in peace for mutual benefit. To allow listings of items designed to defraud or harm innocent people would be to stoop to the level of the very people we are standing up to.

If you are unsure about a listing, just drop us a line and we'll let you know.
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April 30, 2011, 07:13:18 AM
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Bitcoin is cash. Expect the negative consequences.


FTFY.

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April 30, 2011, 09:12:18 AM
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Bitcoin is cash. Expect the negative consequences.


FTFY.
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April 30, 2011, 02:58:22 PM
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FTFY.

If you truly believe what you preach, you are the problem. You, who are so enlightened, expect others to fix it for you?

It reminds me of those citizens of the U.S.A. who claim they are against the welfare / warfare state, but continue to pay for it.

If you want to change the world, start by setting an example. Stop using money. Stop using bitcoins. Stop mining bitcoins.

Who comes to a forum about a new currency and then proceeds to blame money for the evils of the world? While mining that new currency none-the-less!

It disgusts me that you continue to bad mouth money in thread after thread, yet you use it freely when it suits your needs. Hypocrite.

This is not an attack on you, it's an attack on your actions. It's a bit difficult to take you seriously when your actions do not match your words.
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April 30, 2011, 04:03:47 PM
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This one is good as well.

Indeed it is. Thanks.
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April 30, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
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FTFY.

If you truly believe what you preach, you are the problem. You, who are so enlightened, expect others to fix it for you?

It reminds me of those citizens of the U.S.A. who claim they are against the welfare / warfare state, but continue to pay for it.

If you want to change the world, start by setting an example. Stop using money. Stop using bitcoins. Stop mining bitcoins.

Who comes to a forum about a new currency and then proceeds to blame money for the evils of the world? While mining that new currency none-the-less!

It disgusts me that you continue to bad mouth money in thread after thread, yet you use it freely when it suits your needs. Hypocrite.

This is not an attack on you, it's an attack on your actions. It's a bit difficult to take you seriously when your actions do not match your words.

Disengaging from society does not make it any better.

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May 17, 2011, 05:15:57 AM
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You prevent both money laundering and assassinations by not having a totalitarian police state. Bitcoin is irrelevant.

Money laundering is the "thought crime of finance"

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination.
-- Voltaire

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Let's hope Bitcoin is a key enabler for ideal government and liberty.

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May 17, 2011, 08:31:01 AM
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Let's hope Bitcoin is a key enabler for ideal government and liberty.

The ideal government is no government.
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May 17, 2011, 08:41:17 AM
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Let's hope Bitcoin is a key enabler for ideal government and liberty.

The ideal government is no government.
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The ideal government is self-governance
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May 17, 2011, 08:58:37 AM
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Let's hope Bitcoin is a key enabler for ideal government and liberty.

The ideal government is no government.
-- sortedmush
The ideal government is self-governance
--deadlizard

The ideal quote is my quote
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May 17, 2011, 09:04:35 AM
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Let's hope Bitcoin is a key enabler for ideal government and liberty.

The ideal government is no government.
-- sortedmush
The ideal government is self-governance
--deadlizard

The ideal quote is my quote
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The ideal ism is idealism
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May 17, 2011, 09:54:29 AM
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Let's hope Bitcoin is a key enabler for ideal government and liberty.

The ideal government is no government.
-- sortedmush
The ideal government is self-governance
--deadlizard

The ideal quote is my quote
--fetokun

The ideal ism is idealism
-- sortedmush

The ideal governance is emergent order.
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"We will not find a solution to political problems in cryptography, but we can win a major battle in the arms race and gain a new territory of freedom for several years.

Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks, but pure P2P networks are holding their own."
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May 17, 2011, 12:00:26 PM
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Let's hope Bitcoin is a key enabler for ideal government and liberty.

The ideal government is no government.
-- sortedmush
The ideal government is self-governance
--deadlizard

The ideal quote is my quote
--fetokun

The ideal ism is idealism
-- sortedmush

The ideal governance is emergent order.
--emergentorder

NICE!
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May 17, 2011, 01:20:13 PM
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How do we prevent money laundering and assassinations?

Call the cops if you have reason to believe there is money laundering or assassination activity in your area.

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May 17, 2011, 01:45:25 PM
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to me all this fantasy talk about assasinations, money laundering, drugs, etc. are just wild ramblings of young btc'ers who let their minds run wild  and giddy over a new appreciating currency.  bottom line, u can be tracked if necessary.
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