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February 17, 2012, 12:30:02 AM
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maybe this guy supports terrorists in europe? think he was involved in the bombings a few years ago? think we should tip off the local police what this guy does? should not be a problem for op, im sure he has all the paperwork done to prove he does not support terrorism...



I can't see how you attacking me can resolve the fact no one knows nothing about bitcoinica.com

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February 17, 2012, 12:32:10 AM
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maybe this guy supports terrorists in europe? think he was involved in the bombings a few years ago? think we should tip off the local police what this guy does? should not be a problem for op, im sure he has all the paperwork done to prove he does not support terrorism...



I can't see how you attacking me can resolve the fact no one knows nothing about bitcoinica.com

No one knows anything about you also, you dickhead.

You were even so kind as to remove every piece that could identify you from that documnet you posted.

Explain that.

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February 17, 2012, 12:33:15 AM
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Smart, send a legal complaint to the cops against a fairly well respected business, then brag about it, on a libertarian forum that patronizes said business. You didn't stop at any point along this line and think it might be a bad idea? If you're gonna talk trash/spread fud about others businesses publicly, you should be prepared to expect the same.

Oh look, it started already.
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great, having that coming from a "neutral" moderator says lots of things, on topic too

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February 17, 2012, 12:34:39 AM
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maybe this guy supports terrorists in europe? think he was involved in the bombings a few years ago? think we should tip off the local police what this guy does? should not be a problem for op, im sure he has all the paperwork done to prove he does not support terrorism...



I can't see how you attacking me can resolve the fact no one knows nothing about bitcoinica.com

No, plenty of people are well informed about bitcoinica, their algorithms, and their business practices. You just apparently aren't smart enough to seek out that information and decided to call the police for some reason?

If I was a cop and you handed me such a waste of fucking time, I would be liable to bust your head open with a stick. There are rapists and catholic priestschild molesters to deal with.

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February 17, 2012, 12:38:58 AM
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Want to know more about this paraipan fellow?


Ebay - http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=bogdan.seme
OpenID - http://paraipan.myopenid.com/
BitcoinOTC - http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=paraipan
Github - https://github.com/paraipan

Claims to live in spain.  Many instances of username used in Romania (may be someone else with last name 'paraipan')

Ebay profile indicates he speaks only english and spanish.
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February 17, 2012, 12:43:29 AM
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Want to know more about this shifty paraipan fellow?

Ebay - http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=bogdan.seme
OpenID - http://paraipan.myopenid.com/
BitcoinOTC - http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=paraipan
Github - https://github.com/paraipan

Claims to live in spain.  Many instances of username used in Romania (may be someone else with last name 'paraipan')

Ebay profile indicates he speaks only english and spanish.

You might want to add that information to the page about him here: http://bitcoin-shitlist.com/2012/02/16/paraipan/

And ofcourse he can defend himself, like anybody else that was accused of something can defend themselves, and have the complaint withdrawn and be labeled as Innocent.

Disclaimer: To someone who may be thinking I'm out of my mind by promoting my business while trying to put some other guy(paraipan) out of business while he tries to put some other guy(zhoutong) out of business, well, I'm just studying a theory and I'll explain that later on the Bitcoin Shitlist blog. Wink

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February 17, 2012, 12:47:22 AM
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paraipan needs a scumbag steve meme
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February 17, 2012, 12:48:34 AM
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edit: i will retract my complaint if documentation is provided by bitcoinica

You are asking bitcoinica for AML documentation when they are not located in the USA or Spain?  Can you point out the law bitcoinica is violating in it's home country?

Don't get me wrong, I think bitcoinica is a rip off.  The huge spreads combined with the liquidation policy (not that they do it, but how easily they do it) make it a great way to loose BTC.  I also feel the interest component has the potential to allow (or encourage) the owner to allow the deposits to grow so big that they are incentive for going rouge with them.  

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February 17, 2012, 12:55:43 AM
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edit: i will retract my complaint if documentation is provided by bitcoinica

You are asking bitcoinica for AML documentation when they are not located in the USA or Spain?  Can you point out the law bitcoinica is violating in it's home country?

Don't get me wrong, I think bitcoinica is a rip off.  The huge spreads combined with the liquidation policy (not that they do it, but how easily they do it) make it a great way to loose BTC.  I also feel the interest component has the potential to allow (or encourage) the owner to allow the deposits to grow so big that they are incentive for going rouge with them.  

i would point laws if i would know some, money laundering to start with and promise of returns for customer deposits

https://www.bitcoinica.com/pages/interest

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February 17, 2012, 01:02:35 AM
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I think bitcoinica should respond to this post offically .

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February 17, 2012, 01:06:56 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61017.msg753478#msg753478

Paraipan's signature used to contain a link to Bitcoin Magazine.  I asked on that thread whether he was involved, and now the link in his signature is gone.

There has been no official comment from Matthew N Wright.

Paraipan, are you involved in the production of the Bitcoin Magazine?

EDIT:  He addressed this in other thread.  He was talking to them about doing translation work, and that is it.
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February 17, 2012, 01:12:24 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61017.msg753478#msg753478

Paraipan's signature used to contain a link to Bitcoin Magazine.  I asked on that thread whether he was involved, and now the link in his signature is gone.

There has been no official comment from Matthew N Wright.

Paraipan, are you involved in the production of the Bitcoin Magazine?

I saved the picture in the OP since he's getting rid of things now.

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February 17, 2012, 01:13:49 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61017.msg753478#msg753478

Paraipan's signature used to contain a link to Bitcoin Magazine.  I asked on that thread whether he was involved, and now the link in his signature is gone.

There has been no official comment from Matthew N Wright.

Paraipan, are you involved in the production of the Bitcoin Magazine?

i already answered you   Undecided

edit: @BadBear i will not remove content of my posts and appreciate you not copying it or removing any of it

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February 17, 2012, 01:19:27 AM
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edit: i will retract my complaint if documentation is provided by bitcoinica

You are asking bitcoinica for AML documentation when they are not located in the USA or Spain?  Can you point out the law bitcoinica is violating in it's home country?

Don't get me wrong, I think bitcoinica is a rip off.  The huge spreads combined with the liquidation policy (not that they do it, but how easily they do it) make it a great way to loose BTC.  I also feel the interest component has the potential to allow (or encourage) the owner to allow the deposits to grow so big that they are incentive for going rouge with them.  

i would point laws if i would know some, money laundering to start with and promise of returns for customer deposits

https://www.bitcoinica.com/pages/interest

So why are you putting forward a LEGAL complaint when you don't know of any laws broken?   

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February 17, 2012, 01:20:12 AM
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edit: @BadBear i will not remove content of my posts and appreciate you not copying it or removing any of it

This is odd.   Not removing, I fully understand. Why do you request that we not make backups?  Do you not stand behind your actions and words in this thread?
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February 17, 2012, 01:21:38 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61017.msg753478#msg753478

Paraipan's signature used to contain a link to Bitcoin Magazine.  I asked on that thread whether he was involved, and now the link in his signature is gone.

There has been no official comment from Matthew N Wright.

Paraipan, are you involved in the production of the Bitcoin Magazine?

i already answered you   Undecided

edit: @BadBear i will not remove content of my posts and appreciate you not copying it or removing any of it

You guyz...I'm super serial...don't copy the image I posted to the public domain with no copyright documentation on this google indexed forum.

Man, you whine a lot.

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February 17, 2012, 01:22:49 AM
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edit: i will retract my complaint if documentation is provided by bitcoinica

You are asking bitcoinica for AML documentation when they are not located in the USA or Spain?  Can you point out the law bitcoinica is violating in it's home country?

Don't get me wrong, I think bitcoinica is a rip off.  The huge spreads combined with the liquidation policy (not that they do it, but how easily they do it) make it a great way to loose BTC.  I also feel the interest component has the potential to allow (or encourage) the owner to allow the deposits to grow so big that they are incentive for going rouge with them.  

i would point laws if i would know some, money laundering to start with and promise of returns for customer deposits

https://www.bitcoinica.com/pages/interest

So why are you putting forward a LEGAL complaint when you don't know of any laws broken?    

i suppose you know it's not our job to determine the legality of an online service, we just use them without asking too many questions. I would really like to know, in what country is bitcoinica registered ?

@RaggedMonk i stand behind my actions, yes

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February 17, 2012, 01:26:35 AM
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Anyone who does business with this guy would be highly unethical. He has used the law (which exists to protect customers) as a commercial weapon. He has a conflict of interest. It is when companies (and large corporations) use the law in this manner that a society becomes corrupt. This guy is a promoter of corruption.

http://bitcoinmedia.com/bitcoinica-legal-complaint/
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February 17, 2012, 01:28:47 AM
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Anyone who does business with this guy would be highly unethical. He has used the law (which exists to protect customers) as a commercial weapon. He has a conflict of interest. It is when companies (and large corporations) use the law in this manner that a society becomes corrupt. This guy is a promoter of corruption.


i don't provide any kind of platform similar to bitcoinica, i don't understand your point

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February 17, 2012, 01:29:36 AM
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i suppose you know it's not our job to determine the legality of an online service, we just use them without asking too many questions. I would really like to know, in what country is bitcoinica registered ?

For those with short memories, there is a very nice thread tracking down Mt.Gox and if they were registered.  Eventually (much later) it was confirmed.

Just because paraipan doesn't know something, apparently the rest of the world doesn't know either.  Therefore, every business in the world should respond to him with their AML policy.  If he has a fax number, I'll send mine.
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