[Resolved] A1BitcoinPool Complaint

[dirtycat]

Operation Get him a scammer tag was a success. I assume he can still redeem himself though?

Yes, if he pays out 20 BTC. However, don't get your hopes up - he already told me that he wouldn't.

Care to tell more of how that conversation went?

a1bitcoinpoolscammer: I am a loser who doesnt know how to take care of his obligations...  thanks for the bitcoin bitches
maged: ok

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[Maged]

Operation Get him a scammer tag was a success. I assume he can still redeem himself though?

Yes, if he pays out 20 BTC. However, don't get your hopes up - he already told me that he wouldn't.

Care to tell more of how that conversation went?

I can't disclose personal conversations. Sufficed to say, he decided that it was better to keep the bitcoins than to salvage his reputation.

At this point, it would be a good idea to try gathering any personal information you might have on this guy to see if you can get him to change his mind.

[Raize]

So is it true that he only owes about 20 BTC in total to the miners he scammed? Or is that just of the people that we know of?

[Maged]

So is it true that he only owes about 20 BTC in total to the miners he scammed? Or is that just of the people that we know of?

That's assuming his numbers were correct. Otherwise, it could be up to 120 btc. However, I suspect that it's closer to 20. If not 20, I doubt that it's higher than 40.

[Raize]

Can someone come up with an official number of who was scammed out of what amounts and put down the addresses that need to be compensated?

Please PM me when it has been done. Thanks.

[legolouman]

So is it true that he only owes about 20 BTC in total to the miners he scammed? Or is that just of the people that we know of?

That's assuming his numbers were correct. Otherwise, it could be up to 120 btc. However, I suspect that it's closer to 20. If not 20, I doubt that it's higher than 40.

Actually, it is closer to 40BTC, not including proportional miners. Or the block finding bonus.

Can someone come up with an official number of who was scammed out of what amounts and put down the addresses that need to be compensated?

Please PM me when it has been done. Thanks.

>Neglecting to see it says PM you when done.

Me - 100+ shares on prop
Bulanula - .93 BTC
martychubbs- 18.5K shares * 0.00004588
P4man - 129,484 shares on Prop
DirtyCat - 60,161 shares * 0.00004588
heinz - 500k+ shares * 0.00004588
AniceInovation - 200k shares * 0.00004588

I stopped looking on page 4, that's when everyone started pointing fingers.


Did the math, it came to like 36.65496668 (total for everyone)
That doesn't include the prop miners
Remember that two blocks were found, and that means prop miner's should be compensated for two blocks.
PS - The block Finding bonus of 20BTC

[Raize]

Me - 100+ shares on prop
Bulanula - .93 BTC
martychubbs- 18.5K shares * 0.00004588
P4man - 129,484 shares on Prop
DirtyCat - 60,161 shares * 0.00004588
heinz - 500k+ shares * 0.00004588
AniceInovation - 200k shares * 0.00004588

I just sent you 37 BTC @ 1DnJwqQN5HqE4t687yq3PsgbiJ2TUKaLp3, please handle this by giving out appropriately to the affected individuals.

My request is that everyone who was scammed honor my donation here by mining on P2Pool and to encourage all future miners mine on P2Pool instead of these obscure pools that attempt to scam you. This is for the betterment of Bitcoin as a whole, thanks.

[legolouman]

Me - 100+ shares on prop
Bulanula - .93 BTC
martychubbs- 18.5K shares * 0.00004588
P4man - 129,484 shares on Prop
DirtyCat - 60,161 shares * 0.00004588
heinz - 500k+ shares * 0.00004588
AniceInovation - 200k shares * 0.00004588

I just sent you 37 BTC @ 1DnJwqQN5HqE4t687yq3PsgbiJ2TUKaLp3, please handle this by giving out appropriately to the affected individuals.

My request is that everyone who was scammed honor my donation here by mining on P2Pool and to encourage all future miners mine on P2Pool instead of these obscure pools that attempt to scam you. This is for the betterment of Bitcoin as a whole, thanks.

That is entirely generous. I'll start sending the coin out. I don't know how to thank you on behalf of us all. Truly amazing.

[legolouman]

I guess that this could be done in a new thread, or an edit or something. I just want this all publicized... I'm PM'ing everyone that was recognized as scammed, and that Raize donated to.

[someone703]

legolouman - 100+ shares on prop
Bulanula - .93 BTC
martychubbs- 18.5K shares * 0.00004588
P4man - 129,484 shares on Prop
DirtyCat - 60,161 shares * 0.00004588
heinz - 500k+ shares * 0.00004588
AniceInovation - 200k shares * 0.00004588
someone703 - 20k shares * 0.00004588

[dirtycat]

Me - 100+ shares on prop
Bulanula - .93 BTC
martychubbs- 18.5K shares * 0.00004588
P4man - 129,484 shares on Prop
DirtyCat - 60,161 shares * 0.00004588
heinz - 500k+ shares * 0.00004588
AniceInovation - 200k shares * 0.00004588

I just sent you 37 BTC @ 1DnJwqQN5HqE4t687yq3PsgbiJ2TUKaLp3, please handle this by giving out appropriately to the affected individuals.

My request is that everyone who was scammed honor my donation here by mining on P2Pool and to encourage all future miners mine on P2Pool instead of these obscure pools that attempt to scam you. This is for the betterment of Bitcoin as a whole, thanks.

Im speechless!

[bulanula]

Thank you very much to Raize for the generous donation and for legolouman and everyone for compiling the data together.

I never thought I was going to get my $5 back ...

Thank you again and for me it is lesson learned : I will start learning all I can about P2Pool so we can be sure none of this ever happens again and Bitcoin can succeed and not succumb to greedy pool operators and the like.

Thank you again Raize and legolouman and P2Pool FTW !

[Clipse]

I was pondering over being the thread hero and reimbursing those who lost coins, guess I took too long to put on my cape :/

Good job Raize

[jake262144]

So the scammer-bitch ran? No surprise here...

I really think bitcointalk's terms of service should sanction IP-address ban against such individuals as A1BITCOINPOOL/Mu50stang if static IP address is being used:
"Circumventing user account ban may result in IP address ban where applicable." or something the like.

I'm fully aware this approach won't fully protect the general public from A1's upcoming scams but it would at least be some form of defense/sanction against him.

[Turbor]

People like Inaba or Meni warned him when he started A1. Now he's complaining about the scammer tag. He had plenty of time to come clean. On top of not paying his miners he is calling other pool operators idiots... that's lowest behavior.

[crosby]

legolouman - 100+ shares on prop
Bulanula - .93 BTC
martychubbs- 18.5K shares * 0.00004588
P4man - 129,484 shares on Prop
DirtyCat - 60,161 shares * 0.00004588
heinz - 500k+ shares * 0.00004588
AniceInovation - 200k shares * 0.00004588
someone703 - 20k shares * 0.00004588
crosby - 30,000+ shares * 0.000043489



I`ve added myself to the list too as I lost over 30,000 shares to A1bitcoin. I`ve patiently and politely PMd the pool operator more then once, only to be ignored.

As I stated in a PM to him, I would be happy with just 1 BTC.

Thanks

[rjk]

I'm not actually sure how to calculate my shares, I mined just over 30k shares on prop.

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I was `iCanHazHash` as per saved google page. You can donate my share to P2Pool miners though.

[P4man]

You can donate my share to P2Pool miners though.

Same here

[martychubbs]

Can you believe this?  The thread is crazy ugly for A1 and he flakes again.  FREAK!

A1, are you going to pay?  When?

CP, are you still setting up another pool for this joker?   

[Raize]

I was pondering over being the thread hero and reimbursing those who lost coins, guess I took too long to put on my cape :/

There are probably some people that haven't yet explained they were scammed, I would recommend that we let the guys that compile the info determine how they are going to do the reimbursements.