SolidCoin USD price hits new high

[CoinHunter]

The recent economic changes in SolidCoin which made mining a lot more fair has also seen the SolidCoin USD price increase dramatically. Since the change was announced we hit a high of $0.14 per SolidCoin and it is now trading in decent volume around $0.06 . A few weeks ago this was around $0.02 .

If you want to read more about the economic changes in SolidCoin and how we managed to fix the inflation/deflation issue without a central bank being needed please read :- http://solidcoin.info/economy.html

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[Syke]

The recent economic changes in SolidCoin which made mining a waste of electricity.

There, fixed it for you.

[teek]

I still have a few hundred SC1 coins, how do I get new coins for them?

[CoinHunter]

The recent economic changes in SolidCoin which made mining a waste of electricity.

There, fixed it for you.

Yeah you are right, mining isn't profitable for most people until the SolidCoin price increases to over $1 , so that means we won't have much inflation at all until that point, which in turn means price will go up.

Remember we have investors continually buying SolidCoins and even a bitcoin merged mining pool which buys SolidCoins off the market :- http://solidcoinmafia.com . Over time this should allow the price to correct itself to a profitable level for miners.

[CoinHunter]

I still have a few hundred SC1 coins, how do I get new coins for them?

Install the latest version, put your "wallet.dat" into the SolidCoin data folder and it should automatically upgrade it to "wallet_main.dat" which is compatible with the SolidCoin 2 network.

[k9quaint]

Announce change. Submit large buy orders into liquidity vacuum. Claim short-lived rise in price is due to announced changes. Watch value drop back to where it was before change was announced.

Working hard for a scammer label are we? 

P.S. With $250 anyone could buy the price of Solidcoin up to 12 cents each on btc-e.

[CoinHunter]

Announce change. Submit large buy orders into liquidity vacuum. Claim short-lived rise in price is due to announced changes. Watch value drop back to where it was before change was announced.

Working hard for a scammer label are we? 

Same could be said with Bitcoin, just different scale.

P.S. With $250 anyone could buy the price of Solidcoin up to 12 cents each on btc-e.

That's what the new economic changes have done, gotten rid of "cheap" SolidCoins. When the price of a SolidCoin goes over $1 we will start to see mining become profitable again for some people and coin generation will rise.

[k9quaint]

Announce change. Submit large buy orders into liquidity vacuum. Claim short-lived rise in price is due to announced changes. Watch value drop back to where it was before change was announced.

Working hard for a scammer label are we? 

Same could be said with Bitcoin, just different scale.

P.S. With $250 anyone could buy the price of Solidcoin up to 12 cents each on btc-e.

That's what the new economic changes have done, gotten rid of "cheap" SolidCoins. When the price of a SolidCoin goes over $1 we will start to see mining become profitable again for some people and coin generation will rise.

You haven't "gotten rid" of anything. They are still there on the exchange. The price is back down to 4 cents with less than $200 in buy orders above a penny. Grats, you killed your own coin. Again. 

[CoinHunter]

You haven't "gotten rid" of anything. They are still there on the exchange. The price is back down to 4 cents with less than $200 in buy orders above a penny. Grats, you killed your own coin. Again. 

Haha, even with real facts you deny it. Keep trolling kid.

[smoothie]

When the "founder" of an alternative currency has to tout (toot) his own horn, I'd say that its all PUMP and all his DUMP. 

[CoinHunter]

When the "founder" of an alternative currency has to tout (toot) his own horn, I'd say that its all PUMP and all his DUMP. 

I think you've been saying the same thing since September last year, after you dumped 30000 SC for 2 bitcoins or something.

[k9quaint]

You haven't "gotten rid" of anything. They are still there on the exchange. The price is back down to 4 cents with less than $200 in buy orders above a penny. Grats, you killed your own coin. Again. 

Haha, even with real facts you deny it. Keep trolling kid.

Which real facts are you referring to? These buy orders taken from btc-e.com?

price   SC   USD
0.040014 112.13910481   4.48713413
0.040012 1000   40.012
0.04001 1000   40.01
0.040001 100   4.0001
0.0361 14.6652795   0.52941658
0.03605 68.32785   2.46321899
0.036002 300   10.8006
0.035016 58   2.030928
0.027 1500   40.5
0.02362 100   2.362
0.02 2200   44
0.016 3300   52.8
0.015502 2300   35.6546
0.01202 100   1.202
0.012012 181   2.174172
0.01111112   0.133332
0.002 1000   2
0.001111 25000   27.775
0.0011 9000   9.9
0.001 90   0.09

Taken @ 10:34pm (PST) Thursday, Feb 16.
Anyone can go take a look. @ https://btc-e.com/exchange/sc_usd

Now run along back to your alternate reality. /pats the cute little scammer on the head.

[CoinHunter]

Which real facts are you referring to? These buy orders taken from btc-e.com?

I'm talking about the "cheap" solidcoin you denied had been removed. If the price has gone up 2-4x and over 80000 SC has been taken off the exchanges since the change was announced it's pretty certain the "cheap" SolidCoin has been removed, replaced with more expensive stuff

[smoothie]

When the "founder" of an alternative currency has to tout (toot) his own horn, I'd say that its all PUMP and all his DUMP. 

I think you've been saying the same thing since September last year, after you dumped 30000 SC for 2 bitcoins or something.

Okay tell me what have i touted and what have I "founded"? I'm not touting anything nor am I founder of any bullshit currency.

Not seeing the relationship you're trying to make oh so desperately to take the attention off of yourself. 

[johnj]

I remember how after the first block reward downgrade, the idea was to get crapcoin to .20 USD.  Now after slashing the reward *again*, it's only .06 USD.

lol

[k9quaint]

Which real facts are you referring to? These buy orders taken from btc-e.com?

I'm talking about the "cheap" solidcoin you denied had been removed. If the price has gone up 2-4x and over 80000 SC has been taken off the exchanges since the change was announced it's pretty certain the "cheap" SolidCoin has been removed, replaced with more expensive stuff

But the price has not gone up 2-4x, it had a one hour spike then sold off. It now languishes at 4 cents. You killed the trading volume yes, but it was not "replaced".

[CoinHunter]

Which real facts are you referring to? These buy orders taken from btc-e.com?

I'm talking about the "cheap" solidcoin you denied had been removed. If the price has gone up 2-4x and over 80000 SC has been taken off the exchanges since the change was announced it's pretty certain the "cheap" SolidCoin has been removed, replaced with more expensive stuff

But the price has not gone up 2-4x, it had a one hour spike then sold off. It now languishes at 4 cents. You killed the trading volume yes, but it was not "replaced".

A few weeks ago it was "Languishing" at 1.7 cents. So 4cents is how much more than that? Do you need help with the math?

[k9quaint]

Which real facts are you referring to? These buy orders taken from btc-e.com?

I'm talking about the "cheap" solidcoin you denied had been removed. If the price has gone up 2-4x and over 80000 SC has been taken off the exchanges since the change was announced it's pretty certain the "cheap" SolidCoin has been removed, replaced with more expensive stuff

But the price has not gone up 2-4x, it had a one hour spike then sold off. It now languishes at 4 cents. You killed the trading volume yes, but it was not "replaced".

A few weeks ago it was "Languishing" at 1.7 cents. So 4cents is how much more than that? Do you need help with the math?

"A few weeks ago" was long before your announcement of the economic re-education campaign. You made the assertion that Amorphouscoin rose on your announcement. I pointed out that it was just a spike on tiny volume and had since reverted to pre-announcement prices. I provided data to back that up. You are now flopping around trying to find a way out of this conversation.

Do you need help with misinformation and scams?

[CoinHunter]

"A few weeks ago" was long before your announcement of the economic re-education campaign. You made the assertion that Amorphouscoin rose on your announcement. I pointed out that it was just a spike on tiny volume and had since reverted to pre-announcement prices. I provided data to back that up. You are now flopping around trying to find a way out of this conversation.

http://solidcointalk.org/topic/523-new-economic-changes-in-solidcoin-v204/

So January 27 2012 when it was announced isn't a few weeks ago? Jeez, I better go educate myself on what a few weeks means because you must be right!  

You kids with your twittering and dubstep..... it's like tangled up them brains there.

[k9quaint]

"A few weeks ago" was long before your announcement of the economic re-education campaign. You made the assertion that Amorphouscoin rose on your announcement. I pointed out that it was just a spike on tiny volume and had since reverted to pre-announcement prices. I provided data to back that up. You are now flopping around trying to find a way out of this conversation.

http://solidcointalk.org/topic/523-new-economic-changes-in-solidcoin-v204/

So January 27 2012 when it was announced isn't a few weeks ago? Jeez, I better go educate myself on what a few weeks means because you must be right!  

You kids with your twittering and dubstep..... it's like tangled up them brains there.

Ok, in your twisted little world, 20 days = a few weeks. Whatever.

Since Dec 7th Solidcoin was on a downward trajectory towards zero.
Economic re-education announced on Jan 27th.
Both Solidcoin disciples read it on Jan 28th.
Volume dries up on exchanges.
Tiny amount of BTC now moves the SC market.
Price spike on small volume pointed to as "proof".
Pumper runs out of BTC and can't support the SC price anymore.
SC price reverts to 4 cents.

P.S. according to this chart, the high was in November.
http://clkwtuu.instantslchosting.com/scry/?s=scbtc&t=0

[CoinHunter]

You mad bro? Didn't get in when the price was 6 times lower than it is now so you go around crying scam? Must be such a scam to all the SolidCoin investors making money and who will make even more money over the coming months. Please make them aware of more "scams" 

While your $5 pocket money can buy you a Bitcoin every week just imagine what you could do with all of that if you actually had a brain.

[johnj]

You mad bro? Didn't get in when the price was 6 times lower than it is now so you go around crying scam? Must be such a scam to all the SolidCoin investors making money and who will make even more money over the coming months. Please make them aware of more "scams" 

Gee wiz, I guess we *can* have confidence that you'll continue to preside with total control over your little coin with frail attempts to manipulate the price.  What were the block rewards to begin with?  Base 32 down to.. what is it nowadays? .05?  After the first cut you hoped to get it to .20 USD. Now you brag about a spike to .06 USD.

Maybe though we're just being dense.  But why then your spike of posting here?  Aren't all those 'investors' spreading the word about their treasure?  Why are *your* forums so dead?  Page 1 of General Discussion and Development subforums go back to November.  Not a single subforum has over 100 topics.  French and Spanish are still at *zero*, and 14 out of 20 have under 20 topics.

"You sad bro?"

[k9quaint]

You mad bro? Didn't get in when the price was 6 times lower than it is now so you go around crying scam? Must be such a scam to all the SolidCoin investors making money and who will make even more money over the coming months. Please make them aware of more "scams" 

While your $5 pocket money can buy you a Bitcoin every week just imagine what you could do with all of that if you actually had a brain.

Never owned a Solidcoin, I probably never will. If I bought back in November I would have lost 75% of my investment. That isn't much of a return, but it is a lot more than most of your supporters can realistically hope for.

I wonder how long the exchanges will support a currency that has little to no trading volume? Since the exchanges make their money off trades, and Solidcoin doesn't have much, I wonder how many more sweeping client & protocol revisions they will put time and money into supporting.

Let me guess, since you don't need miners anymore you also don't need the exchanges now either?

[CoinHunter]

Never owned a Solidcoin, I probably never will. If I bought back in November I would have lost 75% of my investment. That isn't much of a return, but it is a lot more than most of your supporters can realistically hope for.

"IF I had have bought at the last peak and sold in the trough I would have lost"

"If I had have bought at the last trough and sold now I would have made 6x the coins"

Isn't it funny that you're too dumb to see such things. If you think I'm a price manipulator why haven't you and your sock puppet trolls gamed it for profit? Too dumb?    No it's much easier to say things in hindsight isn't it.

I wonder how long the exchanges will support a currency that has little to no trading volume? Since the exchanges make their money off trades, and Solidcoin doesn't have much, I wonder how many more sweeping client & protocol revisions they will put time and money into supporting.

Yeah because it's so expensive running an exchange and I'm sure doing 1000s of SC+BTC per week in volume isn't enough for these sites! They need mtgox volume just to survive in your little world I'm sure.

BTC-e has a bug with it's volume calculations, but as you seem to have soooo much experience with SolidCoin I'm sure you already knew that too. You kids make me laugh.

[CoinHunter]

Gee wiz, I guess we *can* have confidence that you'll continue to preside with total control over your little coin with frail attempts to manipulate the price.  What were the block rewards to begin with?  Base 32 down to.. what is it nowadays? .05?  After the first cut you hoped to get it to .20 USD. Now you brag about a spike to .06 USD.

Yeah 500 members and a few thousand posts is nothing! We should already have Bitcoins forum member levels to be a success 7 months in. Nice logic there.

"You sad bro?"

What's to be sad about? SolidCoin is the #2 p2p cryptocurrency and will soon be #1 . Times are good.

[drakahn]

btc-e? solidcoin lol

[k9quaint]

Isn't it funny that you're too dumb to see such things. If you think I'm a price manipulator why haven't you and your sock puppet trolls gamed it for profit? Too dumb?    No it's much easier to say things in hindsight isn't it.

You mad (with good reason, having made such a mess of Solidcoin up to this point). The reason why it isn't worth gaming your tiny little currency is because there was only a few hundred actual dollars (and even fewer BTC) in it. After that much was extracted the currency flopped on the floor like a dead hooker.  I don't invest in corpses. Plus, if I did actually invest any serious money you would have just appropriated it "mybitcoin style".

Yeah because it's so expensive running an exchange and I'm sure doing 1000s of SC+BTC per week in volume isn't enough for these sites! They need mtgox volume just to survive in your little world I'm sure.

That is why Tradehill is still in business right? Because it is so easy and free to run an exchange. Nice week for you to make that assertion BTW. I think I hit a nerve.

BTC-e has a bug with it's volume calculations, but as you seem to have soooo much experience with SolidCoin I'm sure you already knew that too. You kids make me laugh.

I am sure your client has lots of bugs in it that prevent exchanges from accurately representing the contents of the block chain. But if you could read, you would have seen that I did not post BTC-e's "volume calculations". I posted their bids and asks (which are obviously wrong because no exchange can get the amount of SC or BTC or USD in an order right.).

That is really your only move,deny the data and ban the source that paints Solidcoin in a negative light. Keep denying the truth, it is your only real talent.

There ain't enough order volume over 1 cent to buy an iPhone (even including the $100 USD that appeared right after I pointed out how little volume existed in the BTC-e bids/asks).

More data from https://btc-e.com/exchange/sc_usd taken @ 7:30pm PST Feb 17th.
Buy Orders
Price SC USD
0.0517 46.48081365   2.40305806
0.040031 2500   100.0775
0.04003 900   36.027
0.04002 1000   40.02
0.040014 112.13910481   4.48713413
0.040001 100   4.0001
0.0361 14.6652795   0.52941658
0.036002 300   10.8006
0.035016 58   2.030928
0.027 1500   40.5
0.02362 100   2.362
0.02 2200   44
0.016 3300   52.8
0.015502 2300   35.6546
0.01202 100   1.202
0.012012 181   2.174172
0.011111 12   0.133332

 

[Ahimoth]

Why do you keep referencing the sc<->usd order book on btc-e? Its tiny when compared to the sc<->btc books on btc-e and slc24, and vircurex.

[k9quaint]

Why do you keep referencing the sc<->usd order book on btc-e? Its tiny when compared to the sc<->btc books on btc-e and slc24, and vircurex.

(/stares at the title of the thread.)

The order book is tiny indeed. Thank you for at least admitting that much, but you better edit your post or Coinhunter is going to take your tyrant-node away. 

Solidcoin hasn't risen significantly against BTC, which is why Coinhunter isn't here bragging about that exchange rate. Which is why I am not quoting that data.

[El Cabron]

sc, oh lulz

[k9quaint]

Why do you keep referencing the sc<->usd order book on btc-e? Its tiny when compared to the sc<->btc books on btc-e and slc24, and vircurex.

Maybe it is an all time record!

It appears that the combined order book of all SC exchanges now approaches $880 USD.

Congrats Coinhunter and Crew 

Vircurex recent trades in SC:

Date   [Quantity SC]   [Price BTC/SC]   [Volume  BTC]
15 Feb 14:03   0.59181133   0.01199999   0.0071
09 Feb 08:50   1.39320000   0.00720001   0.0100
08 Feb 16:28   3.51333959   0.01199999   0.0422
08 Feb 16:28   0.05399895   0.00899999   0.0005
08 Feb 04:56   25.00000000   0.00700001   0.1750

Almost 1 trade a day, grats. There are 100,000 SC worth of buy orders, but for less than 10 BTC total (which is probably a reasonable valuation).
For more /rofls: https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?base=sc&alt=btc

As for slc24, they almost had 14 trades yesterday and 2 today for almost 100BTC in 2 days!!!
SUPER ULTRA AWESOME VOLUME!
P.S. neither allows you to exchange SC for USD, only BTC-e does that I know of.

[CoinHunter]

Why do you keep referencing the sc<->usd order book on btc-e? Its tiny when compared to the sc<->btc books on btc-e and slc24, and vircurex.

Maybe it is an all time record!

It appears that the combined order book of all SC exchanges now approaches $880 USD.

Congrats Coinhunter and Crew 

So they don't only not teacha tha englisha good where you're from but they also don't teacha da math well either. I love how everytime there is a SolidCoin thread Bitcoinexpress's sockpuppet k9queer shows up to embarrass himself. Mods should stop letting the same person post under different accounts.

BTC-e btc total for SC : 470 BTC = 470*4.5 = $2115 USD
BTC-e USD total for SC: $430 USD
SLC24 btc total for SC: 214 BTC = 214 *4.5 = $963 USD
total: $3508 USD on offer at the moment

[Syke]

Here's some more reality for you.

btc-e:

SC:
Total BTC: 466.56257573
Total USD: 487.26945405
Total: 466.56257573×4.5+487.26945405
Total buy orders worth $2586.801044835

LTC:
Total BTC: 728.21831777
Total USD: 121.20775622
Total: 728.21831777*4.5+121.20775622
Total buy orders worth $3398.190186185

Congrats on dropping from 2nd to 3rd place.

[Starlightbreaker]

Here's some more reality for you.

btc-e:

SC:
Total BTC: 466.56257573
Total USD: 487.26945405
Total: 466.56257573×4.5+487.26945405
Total buy orders worth $2586.801044835

LTC:
Total BTC: 728.21831777
Total USD: 121.20775622
Total: 728.21831777*4.5+121.20775622
Total buy orders worth $3398.190186185

Congrats on dropping from 2nd to 3rd place.

so much on "ready for bitcoin crash"

more like "ready for solidcoin 2.0 crash"

[CoinHunter]

Here's some more reality for you.
Congrats on dropping from 2nd to 3rd place.

Only a child could think a coin which has 1/6th the value of SolidCoin is somehow beating it. Keep going kindergarten troll.

[El Cabron]

Here's some more reality for you.
Congrats on dropping from 2nd to 3rd place.

Only a child could think a coin which has 1/6th the value of SolidCoin is somehow beating it. Keep going kindergarten troll.

how much money have you lost trying to keep the price up?

[Starlightbreaker]

Here's some more reality for you.
Congrats on dropping from 2nd to 3rd place.

Only a child could think a coin which has 1/6th the value of SolidCoin is somehow beating it. Keep going kindergarten troll.

and what you call someone that only have ~1/100th value of something, and claiming to be the next replacement of that something?

[k9quaint]

BTC-e USD total for SC: $430 USD

The total galaxy wide exchange order book for SC to USD is $430. Straight out of Coinhunters mouth.
Grats on the capitulation. Can you also change the title to say "calendar year high" instead of "new high", then it will be correct.

Then we can get back to laughing about you bragging about a $430 order book. 

[CoinHunter]

and what you call someone that only have ~1/100th value of something, and claiming to be the next replacement of that something?

What was bitcoins value in its first 7 months? Was it less than $0.05? Yes? Put things in perspective. SolidCoin is a replacement to Bitcoin because it's the better product and more secure. If bitcoin is attacked SolidCoin is the only p2p chain with any security that users can move to. Over time users will move to it anyhow because it has better features that they want, on top of the added security.

[forsetifox]

Congrats on the current price. However I suspect it's you and your cadre that are doing most of the price raising.

1. Hoard mass amounts of solidcoins in hopes that you can cash out big time.
2. Raise price so people will think that solidcoins are worth something.
3. Speculators put in large buy orders because they think sodlicoins will be worth something in the future.
4. Hoarders profit.
5. Speculators are screwed.

From what I see in the solidcoin market the 3rd point hasn't happened and it will not happen.

You're better off selling a portion of your coins every once and a while.

[El Cabron]

yeah, i agree. i just wonder how much real money and btc they have lost trying to keep this game going...

[Nachtwind]

yeah, i agree. i just wonder how much real money and btc they have lost trying to keep this game going...

looking at the amount of marketing they need to do (would you go to citybank to make advertisments for deutsche bank?) then they have much to loose... or to gain.. but hey, if i had 12mil coins and the plan to get 1coin = $1 i would go through this hell as well..

Honestly, why still trying to convince people here Coinhunter? Noone here will listen to your bullshit anyway..

[CoinHunter]

Congrats on the current price. However I suspect it's you and your cadre that are doing most of the price raising.

1. Hoard mass amounts of solidcoins in hopes that you can cash out big time.
2. Raise price so people will think that solidcoins are worth something.
3. Speculators put in large buy orders because they think sodlicoins will be worth something in the future.
4. Hoarders profit.
5. Speculators are screwed.

From what I see in the solidcoin market the 3rd point hasn't happened and it will not happen.

You're better off selling a portion of your coins every once and a while.

You are right that it is people expecting price to match the actual mining cost hoarding them. Why wouldn't they? It's financial sense when there is almost no coin inflation and "only" 2.7 million available to be bought right now. You only have to buy more than 40SC each day to increase your personal percentage of the world SC holdings, that's attractive to some people. When you have a limited supply, no incoming inflation (or negligible) there is only one thing the price can do when you have people that want SolidCoins. And there are plenty of people out there that want them. There are also plenty of people who want to make money on the upswing (short term traders). So I'm sure there will be some sort of staircase type pattern.

No one can control what happens on the market but I'm glad the economy issue has been fixed with SolidCoin and it allows us to have a stable price (eventually). An automatic deflation/inflation control has been needed in a decentralized p2p currency and we have delivered it.

http://solidcoin.info/economy.html

[CoinHunter]

looking at the amount of marketing they need to do (would you go to citybank to make advertisments for deutsche bank?) then they have much to loose... or to gain.. but hey, if i had 12mil coins and the plan to get 1coin = $1 i would go through this hell as well..

Honestly, why still trying to convince people here Coinhunter? Noone here will listen to your bullshit anyway..

No one has 12 million "Spendable" coins, and that is all that matters, it's verifiable with the source. Whilst RealSolid does have control of the CPF wallet, which contains around 130K SC at the moment he doesn't plan on using it unless absolutely necessary for bounties or hiring lawyers, etc. You can verify that no transactions have come out of the CPF yet. http://solidtools.net .

130K is also rather small in the scheme of things (2.7 million coins total) so whilst I'm sure some people think he can abuse that he has already given out over 100K in bounties to people so it's not like he doesn't have a history of being trustworthy when it comes to such things. The ideal situation is nothing has to come from that CPF wallet until it is passed over to the NPO because I think it would be better for RealSolid  that way.

And if you don't want to listen that's fine nachtwind, don't get upset because you realize the logical things said here are going to sway some people. You can have your opinion but I think the reason a lot of trolls get upset with SolidCoin is because of fear. They want Bitcoin to succeed instead of SolidCoin simply because Bitcoin was first. Doesn't always work that way, and if you don't want to come across as a fool it's better to act logical and reasonable than fanboyish.

[DILLIGAF]

looking at the amount of marketing they need to do (would you go to citybank to make advertisments for deutsche bank?) then they have much to loose... or to gain.. but hey, if i had 12mil coins and the plan to get 1coin = $1 i would go through this hell as well..

Honestly, why still trying to convince people here Coinhunter? Noone here will listen to your bullshit anyway..

Whilst RealSolid does have control of the CPF wallet, which contains around 130K SC at the moment he doesn't plan on using it unless absolutely necessary for bounties or hiring lawyers, etc.
...
and if you don't want to come across as a fool.

Says the person talking about himself in the third party like you are separate people...

[Starlightbreaker]

and what you call someone that only have ~1/100th value of something, and claiming to be the next replacement of that something?

What was bitcoins value in its first 7 months? Was it less than $0.05? Yes? Put things in perspective. SolidCoin is a replacement to Bitcoin because it's the better product and more secure. If bitcoin is attacked SolidCoin is the only p2p chain with any security that users can move to. Over time users will move to it anyhow because it has better features that they want, on top of the added security.

security, as in, one person controlling the whole coin, and miners have no say on changes?

oh yeah.
security indeed.

[CoinHunter]

security, as in, one person controlling the whole coin, and miners have no say on changes?

oh yeah.
security indeed.

Just because that's what you think with your ignorant beliefs doesn't mean it is so :-

http://solidcoin.info/myths.html

[LoupGaroux]

security, as in, one person controlling the whole coin, and miners have no say on changes?

oh yeah.
security indeed.

Just because that's what you think with your ignorant beliefs doesn't mean it is so :-

http://solidcoin.info/myths.html

Here's some more reality for you.
Congrats on dropping from 2nd to 3rd place.

Only a child could think a coin which has 1/6th the value of SolidCoin is somehow beating it. Keep going kindergarten troll.

So I am sitting in a strategy meeting with the Marketing team for a Fortune 300 company last Thursday, which I have been introducing to the concept of integrating cryptocurrency. Obviously in the interest of full disclosure, and looking for the very best implementation of this new transaction model we discuss not only bitcoin, but the alt coins as well.

Imagine the secure and confident feeling built up in a potential massive business adopter when they become aware of a coin-leader who has absolute control over the economy of that coin and has to post a "Myths" page about his coin. Then look at his abusive, insulting and juvenile approach to dealing with the realities of market adoption and integration into an actual functioning economy.

Want to guess how long it took to strike a red line through SC as a potential talking point? Less than five seconds. Including debate.

No business is going to accept a means of payment that is controlled by a lunatic who proclaims he wants to overthrow governments, destroy the system, and thinks he can manipulate the world economy by press release. They don't even spend the time to laugh at how pathetic this is, they just dismiss it instantly.

[CoinHunter]

So I am sitting in a strategy meeting with the Marketing team for a Fortune 300 company last Thursday, which I have been introducing to the concept of integrating cryptocurrency. Obviously in the interest of full disclosure, and looking for the very best implementation of this new transaction model we discuss not only bitcoin, but the alt coins as well.

Imagine the secure and confident feeling built up in a potential massive business adopter when they become aware of a coin-leader who has absolute control over the economy of that coin and has to post a "Myths" page about his coin. Then look at his abusive, insulting and juvenile approach to dealing with the realities of market adoption and integration into an actual functioning economy.

Want to guess how long it took to strike a red line through SC as a potential talking point? Less than five seconds. Including debate.

No business is going to accept a means of payment that is controlled by a lunatic who proclaims he wants to overthrow governments, destroy the system, and thinks he can manipulate the world economy by press release. They don't even spend the time to laugh at how pathetic this is, they just dismiss it instantly.

I think you lost everyone at "So I am sitting in a strategy meeting". No one as hot headed and as stupid as you has as much say as you think you do. You're probably 16, playing Fifa manager thinking you're some pro executive type. Welcome to the real world.

[Starlightbreaker]

So I am sitting in a strategy meeting with the Marketing team for a Fortune 300 company last Thursday, which I have been introducing to the concept of integrating cryptocurrency. Obviously in the interest of full disclosure, and looking for the very best implementation of this new transaction model we discuss not only bitcoin, but the alt coins as well.

Imagine the secure and confident feeling built up in a potential massive business adopter when they become aware of a coin-leader who has absolute control over the economy of that coin and has to post a "Myths" page about his coin. Then look at his abusive, insulting and juvenile approach to dealing with the realities of market adoption and integration into an actual functioning economy.

Want to guess how long it took to strike a red line through SC as a potential talking point? Less than five seconds. Including debate.

No business is going to accept a means of payment that is controlled by a lunatic who proclaims he wants to overthrow governments, destroy the system, and thinks he can manipulate the world economy by press release. They don't even spend the time to laugh at how pathetic this is, they just dismiss it instantly.

I think you lost everyone at "So I am sitting in a strategy meeting". No one as hot headed and as stupid as you has as much say as you think you do. You're probably 16, playing Fifa manager thinking you're some pro executive type. Welcome to the real world.

which begs the questions...


how many businesses support your coin?

[CoinHunter]

how many businesses support your coin?

Not enough. I don't even know why any businesses would be happy with what SC and BTC dish up right now because it's a bit of a joke. I guess some people can just work around quirks more than others.

SolidCoin v3 will solve these issues and allow businesses of all types to use SC easily.

[DILLIGAF]

So I am sitting in a strategy meeting with the Marketing team for a Fortune 300 company last Thursday, which I have been introducing to the concept of integrating cryptocurrency. Obviously in the interest of full disclosure, and looking for the very best implementation of this new transaction model we discuss not only bitcoin, but the alt coins as well.

While the premise of your question is interesting there is not a hope in hell a company of such size would bother with any of the existing implementations they would want total control of their fate not leaving it in the hands of bunch of clowns on the internet and as such would do their own blockchain.

[Starlightbreaker]

how many businesses support your coin?

Not enough. I don't even know why any businesses would be happy with what SC and BTC dish up right now because it's a bit of a joke. I guess some people can just work around quirks more than others.

SolidCoin v3 will solve these issues and allow businesses of all types to use SC easily.

because you're a joke.

[k9quaint]

looking at the amount of marketing they need to do (would you go to citybank to make advertisments for deutsche bank?) then they have much to loose... or to gain.. but hey, if i had 12mil coins and the plan to get 1coin = $1 i would go through this hell as well..

Honestly, why still trying to convince people here Coinhunter? Noone here will listen to your bullshit anyway..

Whilst RealSolid does have control of the CPF wallet, which contains around 130K SC at the moment he doesn't plan on using it unless absolutely necessary for bounties or hiring lawyers, etc.
...
and if you don't want to come across as a fool.

Says the person talking about himself in the third party like you are separate people...

He realizes what an asshole Coinhunter has become on this forum, realizes it will hurt Solidcoin publicly and is attempting to spin it as Coinhunter and RealSolid are two different people LOL.

Seriously, I'm not joking.

So he is pretending to be someone else, because if people knew Coinhunter = Solidcoin master node they wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Somehow, this is still not worth a Scammer label. 

[PatrickHarnett]

Here's some more reality for you.
Congrats on dropping from 2nd to 3rd place.

Only a child could think a coin which has 1/6th the value of SolidCoin is somehow beating it. Keep going kindergarten troll.

Normally I read and avoid posting, but this one deserves a response.

Japanese yen are worth 1/70th to 1/80 of a US dollar.  Could the yen beat the dollar - doesn't have to, it is on equal footing as it still buys "stuff".  Dismissing a currency due to it's exchange rate is foolish.

Turkish lire was one of the favs in the past, about 100 to the Italian lire, and that was what, 1000 to the dollar?

[drakahn]

Here's some more reality for you.
Congrats on dropping from 2nd to 3rd place.

Only a child could think a coin which has 1/6th the value of SolidCoin is somehow beating it. Keep going kindergarten troll.

Normally I read and avoid posting, but this one deserves a response.

Japanese yen are worth 1/70th to 1/80 of a US dollar.  Could the yen beat the dollar - doesn't have to, it is on equal footing as it still buys "stuff".  Dismissing a currency due to it's exchange rate is foolish.

Turkish lire was one of the favs in the past, about 100 to the Italian lire, and that was what, 1000 to the dollar?

this thread is about the exchange rate, so foolish may be on the other foot.

and with yens value, if you only got 0.05 yen per day of work you could not buy any "stuff"

[Bitcoin Oz]

Want to promote SC ? Sacrifice one of the 12 million accounts and make the coins spendable then setup a faucet or make it easy to get them by giving away some of the tax. If you really want to support the currency rather than just engage with trolls. If people can get SC more easily than BTC they might start using it.

There, free advice. Take it or leave it.

[CoinHunter]

Want to promote SC ? Sacrifice one of the 12 million accounts and make the coins spendable then setup a faucet or make it easy to get them by giving away some of the tax. If you really want to support the currency rather than just engage with trolls. If people can get SC more easily than BTC they might start using it.

There, free advice. Take it or leave it.

I don't think one of the trust accounts should be made spendable. But the existing CPF could be used for something like this, that is what it was designed for. You are right that "Non mining" methods to get people involved are important, but until we have a better client I don't think there is much point in trying to sway the "normal" people as it's too complicated to use for most people.

If you have any other specific ideas besides a faucet you can PM me them.

[Syke]

I don't think one of the trust accounts should be made spendable.

Notice the key word, "should". Which means he is admitting he can make them spendable any time he wants.

[CoinHunter]

I don't think one of the trust accounts should be made spendable.

Notice the key word, "should". Which means he is admitting he can make them spendable any time he wants.

We've already discussed this and I told you it was possible to make them spendable, it's also possible to add special blocks worth millions in future updates. It's also possible to turn SolidCoin into an email client! Just like it's possible for coblee to add it to Litecoin or Gavin to Bitcoin, it's source code, anything is possible. It would need approval from multiple trust account holders though, not just one person.

In my eyes that is considered fraud, and I'm against anyone trying to add more funds to the system, there is already a 5% CPF which is fair that does what we need. The CPF amount will likely be lowered over time also, to something around 2% instead of the current 5%.

[Syke]

Sorry, it's hard to keep up with all the flip flopping. One minute they're unspendable...

Actually it's 10 wallets, each with 1.2 million. And since the coins are unspendable...

The next minute they're spendable...

We've already discussed this and I told you it was possible to make them spendable

Block reward changes randomly from 32 to 5 to .07.

Etc.

Is there any part of SolidCoin that isn't susceptible to your whims?

[k9quaint]

Sorry, it's hard to keep up with all the flip flopping. One minute they're unspendable...

Actually it's 10 wallets, each with 1.2 million. And since the coins are unspendable...

The next minute they're spendable...

We've already discussed this and I told you it was possible to make them spendable

Block reward changes randomly from 32 to 5 to .07.

Etc.

Is there any part of SolidCoin that isn't susceptible to your whims?

The bugs. 

[LoupGaroux]

So I am sitting in a strategy meeting with the Marketing team for a Fortune 300 company last Thursday, which I have been introducing to the concept of integrating cryptocurrency. Obviously in the interest of full disclosure, and looking for the very best implementation of this new transaction model we discuss not only bitcoin, but the alt coins as well.

Imagine the secure and confident feeling built up in a potential massive business adopter when they become aware of a coin-leader who has absolute control over the economy of that coin and has to post a "Myths" page about his coin. Then look at his abusive, insulting and juvenile approach to dealing with the realities of market adoption and integration into an actual functioning economy.

Want to guess how long it took to strike a red line through SC as a potential talking point? Less than five seconds. Including debate.

No business is going to accept a means of payment that is controlled by a lunatic who proclaims he wants to overthrow governments, destroy the system, and thinks he can manipulate the world economy by press release. They don't even spend the time to laugh at how pathetic this is, they just dismiss it instantly.

I think you lost everyone at "So I am sitting in a strategy meeting". No one as hot headed and as stupid as you has as much say as you think you do. You're probably 16, playing Fifa manager thinking you're some pro executive type. Welcome to the real world.

Gosh, CH/RS am I supposed to take you seriously because you can use big words like "hot-headed" and "stupid"? 52, actually, know that FIFA is all caps, even in the video game version, and actually AM involved in Business Development for a real company that is traded on a real stock exchange where I have significant influence. But if it makes you feel better to call your betters stupid, go right ahead. That will certainly help the adoption cycle for your little pet coin.

The entire community has tried to explain to you the basis for why your concept, your attitude and your lying ways make your "coin" unpalatable to the world as a whole. If you had actually taken the time to read my post you would have found actionable information that would help. Instead you glanced, saw that it was written by one of the "haters" and rushed to embarrass yourself with a childish taunt.

Which, like most everything you post, proves the point that you are the single worst thing about your silly little coin.

[CoinHunter]

Gosh, CH/RS am I supposed to take you seriously because you can use big words like "hot-headed" and "stupid"? 52, actually, know that FIFA is all caps, even in the video game version, and actually AM involved in Business Development for a real company that is traded on a real stock exchange where I have significant influence. But if it makes you feel better to call your betters stupid, go right ahead. That will certainly help the adoption cycle for your little pet coin.

The entire community has tried to explain to you the basis for why your concept, your attitude and your lying ways make your "coin" unpalatable to the world as a whole. If you had actually taken the time to read my post you would have found actionable information that would help. Instead you glanced, saw that it was written by one of the "haters" and rushed to embarrass yourself with a childish taunt.

Which, like most everything you post, proves the point that you are the single worst thing about your silly little coin.

Firstly you have shown yourself as an idiot on prior occasions, that is lacking intelligence, and you also have shown yourself to be someone hot headed who flies off the handle and would rather create drama than debate. If someone like you is working for a company in the "upper reaches", I don't care what company it is, we do not want your business. Your company is obviously steps away from failure or scamming others with people like you in charge. All under the presumption you are actually have a job because with the way you portray yourself I don't see how anyone cannot see you as anything other than a pimply nosed teenager with a bad attitude. This last post of yours is the most coherent I've seen of you, obviously trying to act the part now I guess.

[Starlightbreaker]

hey RS, answer this.

Sorry, it's hard to keep up with all the flip flopping. One minute they're unspendable...

Actually it's 10 wallets, each with 1.2 million. And since the coins are unspendable...

The next minute they're spendable...

We've already discussed this and I told you it was possible to make them spendable

Block reward changes randomly from 32 to 5 to .07.

Etc.

Is there any part of SolidCoin that isn't susceptible to your whims?

[LoupGaroux]

Firstly you have shown yourself as an idiot on prior occasions, that is lacking intelligence, and you also have shown yourself to be someone hot headed who flies off the handle and would rather create drama than debate. If someone like you is working for a company in the "upper reaches", I don't care what company it is, we do not want your business. Your company is obviously steps away from failure or scamming others with people like you in charge. All under the presumption you are actually have a job because with the way you portray yourself I don't see how anyone cannot see you as anything other than a pimply nosed teenager with a bad attitude. This last post of yours is the most coherent I've seen of you, obviously trying to act the part now I guess.

I think the saddest part about your post, indeed your entire philosophy, is that you think the place of a currency is to deign to select those businesses worthy to offer themselves to you for consideration. Imagine a world where anyone looking to make a transaction had to be accepted into the "club" to be able to exchange his tokens for the other fellow's widgets. Is it conceivable to you that such a condition might create a barrier to wider adoption? Does it seem that maybe the brand of token, or even the flavor of the token, might not be better to be unimportant, as it really has nothing to do with the exchange?

The purpose of any currency is to facilitate exchange. It is easier to use tokens of value than to haul different units of barter around in the back of a truck whenever one needs to make an exchange. Having any currency controlled by a cabal, or an abusive and seemingly irrational spokesperson, is not a formula to encourage others to use it. Neither is having a stated philosophy of opposition to government, law and order.

Apparently discussing this fact, teasing you about this this fact, openly insulting your intelligence and beating you over the head with this fact, and publicly proclaiming the fact through analysis of the continuous failure of your pet project, has not educated you on the basics of a transactional model.

Coming to a functional currency screaming that your project is going to rule the world, and now, simply due to manipulation by you and your confederates, an insignificant spike in value happened for a matter of minutes doesn't change the simple fact that your premise is fatally flawed. Nobody, no individual, no business, no body politic and certainly no economy, wants to use a means of exchange that can be manipulated by a single entity with anger management issues, an inconsistent approach to value, rigid and secretive centralized control, and a theoretical half-life of 534 years to be able to do anything about changing any of it.

Did you consider for a moment that creating an artificial spike might actually frighten businesses away? Did it occur to the brain trust behind SC that showing a business in such an obvious way that the value of your tokens can be manipulated with pocket change and that the underlying economy of your token is based on demand equal to the value of a clapped-out 1992 Chevy Impala with two flat tires in toto, might not be the best approach?

Didn't think so.

So have fun with your comp-sci class project. Revel in those fantasies that you will one day rule the world economy, and that supermodels will come knocking just to bask in the radiance of your Uncle Scrooge stash of ShortBusCoin.

[CoinHunter]

I think the saddest part about your post, indeed your entire philosophy, is that you think the place of a currency is to deign to select those businesses worthy to offer themselves to you for consideration. Imagine a world where anyone looking to make a transaction had to be accepted into the "club" to be able to exchange his tokens for the other fellow's widgets. Is it conceivable to you that such a condition might create a barrier to wider adoption? Does it seem that maybe the brand of token, or even the flavor of the token, might not be better to be unimportant, as it really has nothing to do with the exchange?

The purpose of any currency is to facilitate exchange. It is easier to use tokens of value than to haul different units of barter around in the back of a truck whenever one needs to make an exchange. Having any currency controlled by a cabal, or an abusive and seemingly irrational spokesperson, is not a formula to encourage others to use it. Neither is having a stated philosophy of opposition to government, law and order.

Apparently discussing this fact, teasing you about this this fact, openly insulting your intelligence and beating you over the head with this fact, and publicly proclaiming the fact through analysis of the continuous failure of your pet project, has not educated you on the basics of a transactional model.

Coming to a functional currency screaming that your project is going to rule the world, and now, simply due to manipulation by you and your confederates, an insignificant spike in value happened for a matter of minutes doesn't change the simple fact that your premise is fatally flawed. Nobody, no individual, no business, no body politic and certainly no economy, wants to use a means of exchange that can be manipulated by a single entity with anger management issues, an inconsistent approach to value, rigid and secretive centralized control, and a theoretical half-life of 534 years to be able to do anything about changing any of it.

Did you consider for a moment that creating an artificial spike might actually frighten businesses away? Did it occur to the brain trust behind SC that showing a business in such an obvious way that the value of your tokens can be manipulated with pocket change and that the underlying economy of your token is based on demand equal to the value of a clapped-out 1992 Chevy Impala with two flat tires in toto, might not be the best approach?

Didn't think so.

So have fun with your comp-sci class project. Revel in those fantasies that you will one day rule the world economy, and that supermodels will come knocking just to bask in the radiance of your Uncle Scrooge stash of ShortBusCoin.

Firstly you don't know me or the people associated with SolidCoin, at all. Secondly if you had more posts like this one and the last one people wouldn't think you are a retard. Either you post drunk or you're bipolar. Stick to more intelligent posts and criticism and people that matter may think you have something to say.

Personally I think you don't give two shits about SolidCoin or helping a project that is against the existing system. If you did you would be in the #solidcoin channel or the forum with your questions to educate yourself, and not openly trolling and spreading FUD like you were in previous posts.

We can't control who wants to do business in SolidCoins, it's obviously going to attract a wide segment of humanity due to the features we possess. Not wanting retards is just a philosophical thing I would prefer, doesn't mean I'm delusional to think it will happen.

[LoupGaroux]

Sorry, sport, but we have all seen what happens to folks who question anything in your precious forum or channel. And quite frankly, the identity that I have used in the past in your community has allowed me to "learn" anything I need to about your philosophy, your programming ethics and ability, and your approach to working with others. That identity is still live, and if I ever need to verify anything, I can always pop round and study the train wreck at the source.

However, I find no need to spend any bandwidth on your little project. You are loud enough for anyone to see everything they need to see from any distance. You have made it more than abundantly clear what your approach is, and where your thoughts lie in terms of working with others, following the law, respecting others work, implementing software licensing, defining open source, integrity, honesty, and how to market your poorly crafted derivative currency. And, to the vast majority of people who have to suffer through your grand mal seizures of exposition, there is nothing worth implementing, and nothing acceptable about your approach.

You might be well served by stopping and reading your posts out loud before hitting the post button. Or perhaps listening to the scores of your previous devotees who have jumped ship and have publicly denounced you, your megalomaniacal ways, and the dishonest manner in which you have manipulated your coin.

And seriously, you and three sock-puppets does not a wide segment of humanity constitute. In spite of your militant stance against "retards" you might be wise to cultivate support in the intellectually challenged community. They might have fun playing with your worthless manipu-coins. Or you can stick with that arrogant attitude- perhaps your philosophy of exclusion extends to Jews, homosexuals and Gypsies? There is a historical precedent for dramatically schizophrenic madmen seeking to exclude groups that don't fit their image of perfection.

There, a Godwin lollipop for you to suck on.

[Starlightbreaker]

We can't control who wants to do business in SolidCoins, it's obviously going to attract a wide segment of humanity due to the features we possess. Not wanting retards is just a philosophical thing I would prefer, doesn't mean I'm delusional to think it will happen.

delusion of grandeur.

[k9quaint]

Personally I think you don't give two shits about SolidCoin or helping a project that is against the existing system. If you did you would be in the #solidcoin channel or the forum with your questions to educate yourself, and not openly trolling and spreading FUD like you were in previous posts.

You ban anyone who disagrees with you. You ban them from all sites and channels you control. This is the only place where actual discussion can proceed about Solidcoin (not that there is much to discuss anymore). I seem to recall you saying that your development discussions rarely have arguments. Well that is what happens when you shitcan anyone who disagrees with you. All you have left are a bunch of yes men who automatically agree with everything you say. Must do wonders for inflating your ego. Your "devs" know if you snap on them, they will lose their tyrant nodes, forum accounts, access to #solidcoin and their wallet account will be blacklisted in the next client release. I use devs in quotes because at this point it is just a pump and dump scheme rather than a cryptocurrency.

[k9quaint]

@K9

Why do you insist on throwing facts at that retard, he simply ignores reality.  

Please don't call CoinHunter a retard. He's, on the contrary, /EXTREMELY/ intelligent. Why, says so right here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15672.msg381911#msg381911

(On an unrelated note, Mitt Romney is severely conservative.)

Nice pull sir.

[LoupGaroux]

Hi, I'm an extremely intelligent computer programmer who is interested in bitcoins for various reasons.

1) They have the potential to make me money through speculation
2) I can use it to allow people to buy products quite easily
3) I think the concept of bitcoins, how they are like cash, is the way all transactions should be. To avoid people knowing what people are doing.

So, by the numbers...

1. They have the potential for me to manipulate a massive pre-mine that I and I alone control, using stolen code that I have grossly misrepresented as being my work.
2. I can use people to do tasks for me so that I can claim their work, which if I could figure out basic economics would allow me to buy products, if anyone other than an online head shop and two internet strippers would accept the coin that I invented which is going to be better than the other coin that I was interested in before but now shun as being so clearly and obviously second rate to something invented by someone as wonderful and extremely intelligent as me, who is wallowing in wealth, except when my allowance runs out.
3. I think the concept is, if I could only get everyone to acknowledge me as the Most Important Pretty Princess in the World then I could have my invention take over all the world governments and money systems, and that is really the way all transactions should be, not knowing what people are doing, in fact I think that is what all human interaction should be like, nobody should know what anybody is doing, we should all be required to live our lives in SolidCaves ^TM where they are cut off from all other people except those that I have approved through my network of Trusty Toasty Nodes for Friendship ^{also TM} and if we ever decide to have any, you know those funny feelings then we should all wear SolidCondoms ^{oh this is really exciting because here is another TM} which take all the feeling out of everything.
4. And I wonder if the Jim Jones guy is still using that compound in Guyana? I could have all my legion of SpecialFriends ^{yes you little peasant bitches I own everything and I alone invented the internet so this is TM, I think. Is TM like copyrights, can I just claim it because I think it is important?}come and stay with me there.
5. And when the world learns that the the features we possess ^{sadly enough that is a real quote}include sharks with lasers in their heads... well then all those rotten bastards who mocked me will have to bow before my extremely large, and ever-so-big intelligence.

[Bitcoin Oz]

I like the "tax" as a way to get coin uptake but the centralisation gives me the willies and I just cant support it.

[smoothie]

Want to promote SC ? Sacrifice one of the 12 million accounts and make the coins spendable then setup a faucet or make it easy to get them by giving away some of the tax. If you really want to support the currency rather than just engage with trolls. If people can get SC more easily than BTC they might start using it.

There, free advice. Take it or leave it.

I don't think one of the trust accounts should be made spendable. But the existing CPF could be used for something like this, that is what it was designed for. You are right that "Non mining" methods to get people involved are important, but until we have a better client I don't think there is much point in trying to sway the "normal" people as it's too complicated to use for most people.

If you have any other specific ideas besides a faucet you can PM me them.

This way he can take credit for your ideas. 

[LoupGaroux]

Not interested in finding your identity for a PM- here's an idea...

Print all of the SC's on toilet paper. Then they would actually have some functional utility in the real world.

[k9quaint]

Not interested in finding your identity for a PM- here's an idea...

Print all of the SC's on toilet paper. Then they would actually have some functional utility in the real world.

We don't need yet another method of getting shit onto toilet paper. We are already pretty effective at that.

[CoinHunter]

I like the "tax" as a way to get coin uptake but the centralisation gives me the willies and I just cant support it.

SolidCoin being centralized is just a myth spread by some trolls.

http://solidcoin.info/myths.html#SolidCoin_isn.27t_decentralized_because_of_trust_nodes

In regards to the CPF that is there to protect every SolidCoin holder from future legal issues that will likely come up. A way to fight a legal war and also help promote the coin in advertising, etc.

[k9quaint]

I like the "tax" as a way to get coin uptake but the centralisation gives me the willies and I just cant support it.

SolidCoin being centralized is just a myth spread by some trolls.

http://solidcoin.info/myths.html#SolidCoin_isn.27t_decentralized_because_of_trust_nodes

In regards to the CPF that is there to protect every SolidCoin holder from future legal issues that will likely come up. A way to fight a legal war and also help promote the coin in advertising, etc.

Solidcoin being run by tyrant nodes is just a secret that sockpuppets like ViperJBM propagate on these forums until they liquidate their pre-mine.

By the way Viper, why did you suddenly delete all your online accounts? Right after you claimed to have a degree in software engineering and employed as one, SA found out you were unemployed, uneducated, and living with your parents. Suddenly, you vanish.

Only to reappear on the Coinhunter account. Are these the actions of someone worthy of trust? I think not.
Mr. Moon could learn a thing or two from you guys.