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June 10, 2014, 01:39:21 PM
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Recently bought many antminers and 29% of them were obviously used.

PCB's, fan, aluminum heatsink were full of dust. I had to air pressure clean the heatsink and big chunks of dirt came out.

How can a big name like BITMAIN do this (from my reading, i am far from being the only one).

Is it an ancient Chinese tradition to sell used stuff as new ?  Tongue
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June 10, 2014, 01:47:38 PM
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It's called Quality Check burning...

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June 10, 2014, 01:49:49 PM
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It's called Quality Check burning...

Quality check for 3 months + ? From the amount of crap that was in there i estimate to at least 3-4 months of using.

And do you mean that my other ants that were new were not quality checked ?

This excuse is beyond retarded. Please...
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June 10, 2014, 01:50:56 PM
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They sell used gear because people will buy it. Double ROI.
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June 10, 2014, 02:25:33 PM
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1) Does it matter? The warranty provided is the same
2) Dust can build up very, very quickly.

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June 10, 2014, 02:32:27 PM
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1) Does it matter? The warranty provided is the same
2) Dust can build up very, very quickly.

Specially in China... Grin
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June 10, 2014, 02:33:39 PM
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Ha! There's your proof that they are mining for themselves before selling the units.
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June 10, 2014, 03:15:08 PM
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They sell used gear because people will buy it. Double ROI.

Simply this.
Plus it shouldn't surprise anyone, many companies if not all of them follow this practice.
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June 10, 2014, 03:38:17 PM
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1) Does it matter? The warranty provided is the same
2) Dust can build up very, very quickly.

Yes it does matter.

The warranty is a joke, who are you laughing at here ??
There were months of buildup dust in there. Saying that this could be done in days is plain retarded.

Does it matter if i spit in your soup ? Tastes the same, looks the same, smells the same,  wont make you sick, your meal is as nutritive etc. I believe it matters no?


Plus last i heard selling used products as new product is illegal.
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June 10, 2014, 03:45:01 PM
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1) Does it matter? The warranty provided is the same
2) Dust can build up very, very quickly.

Yes it does matter.

The warranty is a joke, who are you laughing at here ??
There were months of buildup dust in there. Saying that this could be done in days is plain retarded.

Does it matter if i spit in your soup ? Tastes the same, looks the same, smells the same,  wont make you sick, your meal is as nutritive etc. I believe it matters no?


Plus last i heard selling used products as new product is illegal.
Your buying shit from China, get real.
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June 10, 2014, 03:45:22 PM
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don't worry kncminer do same thing

looking job
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June 10, 2014, 03:51:38 PM
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That's the risk involved with ordering something all the way around the globe.

What are you going to do, request RMA it back and wait for a new one?   Tongue

Even a day lost BTC mining in precious.  Time is indeed money with setup costs, maintaining and tweaking, and monitoring the miners to make sure they're stable.

You know those compressed air cannisters used to blow dust off PC's and keyboards?  Use them.   Grin

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June 10, 2014, 04:04:32 PM
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1) Does it matter? The warranty provided is the same
2) Dust can build up very, very quickly.

Yes it does matter.

The warranty is a joke, who are you laughing at here ??
There were months of buildup dust in there. Saying that this could be done in days is plain retarded.

Does it matter if i spit in your soup ? Tastes the same, looks the same, smells the same,  wont make you sick, your meal is as nutritive etc. I believe it matters no?


Plus last i heard selling used products as new product is illegal.

Okay here is the deal.  You are completely absolutely correct.  But lets face it you have 0 recourse none zip because you purchased with btc.

Your option are only buy mining gear from sellers that allow paypal or a credit card you will then have recourse. Reading threads/posts about my bitmaintech gear came used have been around for months you had to have read them and yet your purchased from them any way.

   Here is a list of good gear with a paypal option   decent price 1th units for btc mining

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=514758.0


and zoomhash.com sells a grid seed blade with a paypal option.     I am sure there are other sellers with decent prices and paypal/credit card options.

I have 1 1th unit from the thread I linked and I have 4 grid seed blades from zoom hash all paid with by paypal. On june 21 or june 22 I will buy again from one or both of them.

I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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June 10, 2014, 04:08:29 PM
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They could solve it easily anyway if they will notice this thread they will just clean it with compressed air and ship them after that.

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June 10, 2014, 04:14:55 PM
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Some funny answers here guys.

Yeah i know there is no legal recourse thats why im posting it publicly.

Raise awareness on their shadiness is the only thing i can do.
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June 10, 2014, 04:17:08 PM
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To be fair, they never advertised the units as new. That was said a little tongue in cheek. That aside, yes its a little disingenuous but better than being a hashfast/cointerra/bfl customer that never got their miner.

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June 10, 2014, 06:10:47 PM
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Some funny answers here guys.

Yeah i know there is no legal recourse thats why im posting it publicly.

Raise awareness on their shadiness is the only thing i can do.

nobody gives a hoot about it, all that matters is performance.
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June 10, 2014, 06:34:54 PM
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Some funny answers here guys.

Yeah i know there is no legal recourse thats why im posting it publicly.

Raise awareness on their shadiness is the only thing i can do.

nobody gives a hoot about it, all that matters-performance.
Plus your raising awareness about a product they don't even make anymore. Good luck on your crusade.
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June 10, 2014, 07:14:36 PM
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May be because his basement is dirty and you need a vacum cleaner to suck the dust from a unit tested for just a couple of hours Grin
At least that was last official statement from bitmain as far as I remember Grin
But any way if you are happy with the price and stuff is working who cares Wink

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June 10, 2014, 07:42:31 PM
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Yes this is happening.
There is nothing you can do about it.
If it's that important to you don't buy from them.
If you can find a vendor that doesn't do this I'd be happy to be a customer of theirs.

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