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Question: Should Bittrex do a "clear database" to re-open on the good fork even if it means that people that have buy NJA on the wrong fork have pay BTC for nothing ?
Yes, re-open the market on the good fork - 24 (66.7%)
Yes, switch to the new fork but only for withdraw - 2 (5.6%)
No, i wan't to keep my billions of NJA on the wrong fork - 10 (27.8%)
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Author Topic: [ANN][X11][PoS only] NinjaCoin - Ninja Launch - Hard fork 1.2.2  (Read 69068 times)
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June 18, 2014, 03:36:57 AM
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GUys... i am missing the coins that i withdrew from the pool. The walllet is fully synced... Any help?
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June 18, 2014, 06:09:01 AM
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Wallet seams to work properly now and the new chain is past the old.
How ever the faulty PoS generated coins from the bad chain is still showing up as Unconfirmed Balance... is there a way to get rid of it, i thought it would vanish when chain went past..

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June 18, 2014, 06:44:28 AM
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GUys... i am missing the coins that i withdrew from the pool. The walllet is fully synced... Any help?

I did a "repairwallet" in the debug console (then just wait) if your coins are from the good fork they'll show up.

as far as I know bittrex just uses one big wallet so any bad coins would be held with the good ones... so it doesn't matter if you bought them before the fork you'll be lucky to get any good ones out same as if you bought them after... as has been said try to take out small amounts from bittrex at a time.


I left for work and had the new wallet up and sync'd got home and tried to send coins to another new wallet,  now everytime I try to open the wallet it just crash's due to runtime error?

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June 18, 2014, 06:46:00 AM
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I'm certainly no expert on this either but let me explain my thought process on this...

If you make a withdrawal from Bittrex, then open an old version of the wallet and let it sync the withdrawal from Bittrex should show up since they're on the same fork.  At the same time, the old wallet is going to mint millions of coins that are invalid on the new fork, and all of this will be stored in the wallet.dat file.

Once everything is synced and the withdrawal from Bittrex (valid coins) and the minted POS coins (invalid coins) are in the wallet.dat file, and you open up the newest wallet, the valid coins should show up in your new wallet and the invalid coins should be rejected.  That's the whole point of the hard fork, right?

But there is not CoinControl on exchange like in the wallet, where I'll be able to chose valid coins (from addresses before fork) to withdraw. Bittrex can send me my balance from address which is full of PoS coins from trolls/NJA assassins. I bought all my NJAs, not mined and sent to Ex. But I was able withdraw some NJAs (250+150) to new wallet. What I don't understand is, how new wallet/forked blockchain know that someone send these NJA/make transactions in invalid chain. So I thought that chains are mixed because of new and old wallet version.h (NOBLKS_VERSION_END)/same root NODE/same diff retarget (I don't know if it was changed during hard fork), but when i tried found block hashes solved by p2pool (on good fork) in blockexplorer (on same fork like Ex.) I can't find any. I want my NJAs or clarify the mystery.. both have same value for me (no I will not sell 250k for explanation Cheesy)
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June 18, 2014, 06:51:25 AM
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OK.. so i bought NINJA Coin on Bittrex 11280.00000000, that are apparently worth nothing now, Anyone?
Whats the go? are they just garbage, or do i just leave the on bittrex and wait for it to get sorted out ?
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June 18, 2014, 07:01:16 AM
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I try to run command in debug but it crashes with runtime error, can't fetch any err msg..
then it crashes every time i start the wallet until i reboot my computer.
I have reproduced it 3 times, same results..

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June 18, 2014, 07:20:01 AM
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OK.. so i bought NINJA Coin on Bittrex 11280.00000000, that are apparently worth nothing now, Anyone?
Whats the go? are they just garbage, or do i just leave the on bittrex and wait for it to get sorted out ?
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Make old and new wallets fully synced with the same wallet.dat (if you need running both at the same time, add listen=0 in to .conf) ..use dev repo http://92.222.28.197/release/ if you need old release. Try withdraw small amount (1NJA) to your NJA address and if everything is working you will see +0.98000000NJA on both wallets. Then when you tried send whole amount and you have good karma, you will see +11278.98000000NJA in both wallets.. if not, they will be only in old wallet and you can send them back to Bittrex and try again and again and again..
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June 18, 2014, 07:28:54 AM
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this is one of the reason coins should not be listed on exchange straight away.now eveyone gets burnt.the exchange,people buying coins that arent valid and to the one that weren't directly affected have a wallet full of useless coins cause this has just destroyed the coins image.greed will make people and break people Cry

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June 18, 2014, 07:32:44 AM
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OK.. so i bought NINJA Coin on Bittrex 11280.00000000, that are apparently worth nothing now, Anyone?
Whats the go? are they just garbage, or do i just leave the on bittrex and wait for it to get sorted out ?
 Cry Angry

Make old and new wallets fully synced with the same wallet.dat (if you need running both at the same time, add listen=0 in to .conf) ..use dev repo http://92.222.28.197/release/ if you need old release. Try withdraw small amount (1NJA) to your NJA address and if everything is working you will see +0.98000000NJA on both wallets. Then when you tried send whole amount and you have good karma, you will see +11278.98000000NJA in both wallets.. if not, they will be only in old wallet and you can send them back to Bittrex and try again and again and again..
Ahh.. Ok.. so garbage??

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June 18, 2014, 08:07:21 AM
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WTS ~1 000 000 Ninja Grin
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June 18, 2014, 08:59:25 AM
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fix The wallet please
the solution on first page not work.
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June 18, 2014, 09:15:29 AM
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I sent 1 NJA, from Bittrex to my wallet, and the Withdrawal went fine, in 2 minutes.
Then I sent 53k NJA, but After 20 minutes I dont see the coin in the wallet.
The sync is finished.

It's normal?

Same here, even block explorer show both transactions, in wallet (1.2.2) synced @17634 has only 1st one Huh
I got your PM but answer you here, it can help everyone to share this story.

From what i see, the bad fork see your 2 transactions (official explorer on wrong fork now) and say it's ok. This is expected since bittrex is on the bad fork.
Now, why did you not have the 2nd withdraw in your good wallet is the question.

The X amount of coins you have send the 2nd time, where did they come from ? Have you buy them on bittrex after the block 14000 or did they stay into your bittrex wallet before block 14000 ? Or maybe a mix of pre block 14000 and and post block 14000 ?

From my understanding, even if bittrex is on the wrong chain, both good and wrong chain/fork share the same block from 1 to 14000.
That's why we can withdraw coins before block 14000 to the good wallet. Coins generated/earned on the wrong fork after block 14000 (13999 to be exact) can't be accepted by the good wallet. For people that have a mixed bag of "good coins" and some "bad coin" and send the whole bag in only one withdraw, i don't know what the expected result is.

Is there a blockchain expert here that can confirm this ?

Why don't you make an earlier, pre-hard fork version of the wallet available for the purpose of withdrawing from Bittrex?  Once they have the coins in their wallet.dat file they should be able to start using the new wallet and everything should be fine.

Coins are NOT in wallet.dat ..but with old wallet, I will send "bad coins" back to exchange (don't know if deposit is enable) and withdraw them in small amounts. Just joking.. others can do it by this way until all coins from prefork wallets/addresses will be empty.

I understand that your coins are not in wallet.dat, but if you were using an old version of the wallet on the same fork as Bittrex and let it sync completely, your coins should then be in your wallet.dat file and when you open the new wallet they will be there.
I'm not sure this will work. When you copy the wallet.dat from the old wallet to the new wallet, i think there is a validation process of the wallet. The coins in the new wallet may just be rejected and not appear. And moving coins on the old chain can make things worse to get them on the new chain.

I can be wrong, i'm not a fork expert, it's not a situation we see often. The best is maybe withdraw small amout many times instead of one big.
It would be more easy if bittrex clone his wallet.dat into the new wallet and let people withdraw from this special wallet.
I sent37000000 NJA, from Bittrex to my wallet, I  see 0.98NJA t coin in the wallet.where is my others coin ?
      06/18/2014 03:25:54 PM   NJA   4851729.28824520   Completed
Address: NwtV7A3D9sFb5EBRjypvkhoWjihrXwNJ7i
TxId: 9b883937d2c1a0437fc120fece7ea41f9def1fcdf66e1d3abc94c1ec6cc529ae
   06/18/2014 03:24:50 PM   NJA   9999999.98000000   Completed
Address: NwtV7A3D9sFb5EBRjypvkhoWjihrXwNJ7i
TxId: 7f736f861b7ccf2e3439ca6cdd9c768add45dd818ff1ea9638b2196c0ab8d26b
   06/18/2014 03:24:46 PM   NJA   9999999.98000000   Completed
Address: NwtV7A3D9sFb5EBRjypvkhoWjihrXwNJ7i
TxId: 98c8601843b2f5ad7fa908f76bfba152c67ce15b3b169edbc509dc7864a4969b
   06/18/2014 03:24:10 PM   NJA   9999999.98000000   Completed
Address: NwtV7A3D9sFb5EBRjypvkhoWjihrXwNJ7i
TxId: ddc30a66f1a5e16c53076a3e8e126d5897987d72486cffa4c33c5ae33fb7b845
   06/18/2014 01:00:04 PM   NJA   0.98000000   Completed
Address: NwtV7A3D9sFb5EBRjypvkhoWjihrXwNJ7i
TxId: 4e9c02f63d6df7a065862ad6a02e9e219006e377ff96135a242fe56db629334f

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June 18, 2014, 09:43:29 AM
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Good new, as expected the wrong fork die and we have beat it in block numbers. The good fork has the longest blockchain.

PoS is working fine and we should let our wallet open. People with crash on the wallet, try to restart the computer. About windows 8 wallet, it's working on my side in a virtualbox clean install (x86 not 64 bits). I'll try to test it on a 64bits install too, maybe the problem come from this.

About bittrex withdraw, try to make it with small amout or use this way:

Make old and new wallets fully synced with the same wallet.dat (if you need running both at the same time, add listen=0 in to .conf) ..use dev repo http://92.222.28.197/release/ if you need old release. Try withdraw small amount (1NJA) to your NJA address and if everything is working you will see +0.98000000NJA on both wallets. Then when you tried send whole amount and you have good karma, you will see +11278.98000000NJA in both wallets.. if not, they will be only in old wallet and you can send them back to Bittrex and try again and again and again..

The wallet should filter bad coins from wrong fork and the coins that are on the good network are only sane coins. The billions of coins generated by the wronk fork are rejected. The value of our NJA are safe.

What's next now ? We need a exchange ! I have read that some suggest https://www.allcoin.com/ or https://www.swisscex.com, we should try to contact them.
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June 18, 2014, 09:51:55 AM
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Anybody else have experienced highger CPU usage on Ninja wallet? Here is pernamently 2-11%.

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June 18, 2014, 09:53:30 AM
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Anybody else have experienced highger CPU usage on Ninja wallet? Here is pernamently 2-11%.

+1 , The wallet consuming huge CPU usage and almost the time doesnt responding...
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June 18, 2014, 09:54:13 AM
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Anybody else have experienced highger CPU usage on Ninja wallet? Here is pernamently 2-11%.

25% with my Core i5.
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June 18, 2014, 09:56:57 AM
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Anybody else have experienced highger CPU usage on Ninja wallet? Here is pernamently 2-11%.

25% with my Core i5.

I have Core i3, others wallets with staking are between 0-3%...

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June 18, 2014, 10:07:08 AM
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Anybody else have experienced highger CPU usage on Ninja wallet? Here is pernamently 2-11%.

25% with my Core i5.

I have Core i3, others wallets with staking are between 0-3%...

What OS?
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June 18, 2014, 10:10:20 AM
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This is why it can crash on older computer. I think it's the old chain that make some noise. The wallet has to fight while filtering all the bad coins.

I had a strange amount in my wallet after a while.  Each time i open the wallet, it had the good amount but after a while some x2 amount.
Just have make a "repairwallet" in the debug console (click help->debug window->colsole tab) and it looks fine now. If it can help other users...
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June 18, 2014, 10:14:04 AM
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Anybody else have experienced highger CPU usage on Ninja wallet? Here is pernamently 2-11%.

25% with my Core i5.

I have Core i3, others wallets with staking are between 0-3%...

What OS?

W7 x64

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