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Question: Should Utopianfuture be excluded from the NEM project after his scam conviction?  (Voting closed: June 26, 2014, 06:07:51 PM)
*YES: Exclude/Remove utopianfuture - 44 (47.8%)
*NO: Keep utopianfuture as Grand Leader nevertheless - 48 (52.2%)
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June 12, 2014, 10:49:06 PM
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But it was really genius from your side to create sockpuppets and sell whole coin to yourself, I give you that.

u are mixing names now, this is what NEM is convicted for today. Grin

good one!

Hello.

I want to buy all yor NEM stakes.
How many stakes do you have for sale?!


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June 12, 2014, 10:50:14 PM
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But it was really genius from your side to create sockpuppets and sell whole coin to yourself, I give you that.

u are mixing names now, this is what NEM is convicted for today. Grin

good one!

Hello.

I want to buy all yor NEM stakes.
How many stakes do you have for sale?!

i have none for sale anymore. go to NXT AE and buy them up if u need some, many sales available

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June 12, 2014, 10:50:24 PM
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But it was really genius from your side to create sockpuppets and sell whole coin to yourself, I give you that.

u are mixing names now, this is what NEM is convicted for today. Grin

good one!

Hello.

I want to buy all yor NEM stakes.
How many stakes do you have for sale?!


hi sock puppet!

why do you announce your desire to buy to the world?  wouldn't this result in paying more?  such curious behavior.

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June 12, 2014, 10:52:10 PM
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who would dare to compare nem with established projects like bitcoin or nxt, mastercoin etc.

god who would even dare that
I already have. BTC, NXT and Mastercoin all have storied and controversial pasts. Compare them to the elegant launches of Litecoin, Vertcoin, or Counterparty. Guess what? It doesn't matter. It does. not. matter. how many sock puppets you have. It's code vs. code, developer vs. developer out here. Clean launches are not a pre-requisite for a successful cryptocurrency. NEM may survive, it may not. But calling NEM dead does not make it so.

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June 12, 2014, 10:53:17 PM
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who would dare to compare nem with established projects like bitcoin or nxt, mastercoin etc.

god who would even dare that
I already have. BTC, NXT and Mastercoin all have storied and controversial pasts. Compare them to the elegant launches of Litecoin, Vertcoin, or Counterparty. Guess what? It doesn't matter. It does. not. matter. how many sock puppets you have. It's code vs. code, developer vs. developer out here. Clean launches are not a pre-requisite for a successful cryptocurrency. NEM may survive, it may not. But calling NEM dead does not make it so.

ok, please post some code of NEM or any other achievement.

btw please give me a break when talking about controversial pasts after what happened with Nem today, otherwise i might die of shock.

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June 12, 2014, 10:54:33 PM
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UtopianFuture did not have to resign - all he did was create accounts to pump up interest (he later removed his accounts from the list), many developers and project leaders have done that for almost every coin out there.  Satoshi likely posted under different aliases, at the very beginning, to make Bitcoin look more popular than it really was.

NEM is far from dead - the price is still within normal range and most people are still standing behind the coin.  Come back in a week and NEM's price will still be the same if not higher.

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June 12, 2014, 10:57:15 PM
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Satoshi likely posted under different aliases, at the very beginning, to make Bitcoin look more popular than it really was

its beyond me how u can come up with such impudent excuses now. are u not ashamed? do u want to challenge utopianfuture TaunSew? :0

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June 12, 2014, 10:58:29 PM
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3 people telling you 20 times to sell and that they dont care

funny isnt it? Cheesy


dont forget UP still has his stake(secretly), and wants to get out.  If the price hits the floor he can't do that.

mostly Im participating in these threads to validate what my initial suspicions were about this project, and also for fun. Smiley

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you care only for your precious NXT, we are not stupid. Who gives a fuck about his stake. This is NEM, there are not NXT type whales with 50 mio+ stakes.  Wink

this is just ridiculous beyond comprehension

who would dare to compare nem with established projects like bitcoin or nxt, mastercoin etc.

god who would even dare that

Actually me, obviously.

well u are obviously out of your mind to compare vaporware with the most established cryptocurrencies in the world.

do u need any help? BITCOIN FOR THE WIN

No thanx, your mum already helped me.  LOL Like it matters if whales are estblished or not, FIAT is also established, so what?

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June 12, 2014, 10:59:18 PM
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Satoshi likely posted under different aliases, at the very beginning, to make Bitcoin look more popular than it really was

its beyond me how u can come up with such impudent excuses now. are u not ashamed? do u want to challenge utopianfuture TaunSew? :0

No, if I were my project I would not be ashamed about it.  It's a legitimate tactic, for a brand new coin, to utilize different alises to make a coin look popular.

I think it succeeded.  NEM was nothing at the very beginning but later it attracted reputable developers and a huge community.  The past doesn't change the present.



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June 12, 2014, 11:05:26 PM
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who would dare to compare nem with established projects like bitcoin or nxt, mastercoin etc.

god who would even dare that
I already have. BTC, NXT and Mastercoin all have storied and controversial pasts. Compare them to the elegant launches of Litecoin, Vertcoin, or Counterparty. Guess what? It doesn't matter. It does. not. matter. how many sock puppets you have. It's code vs. code, developer vs. developer out here. Clean launches are not a pre-requisite for a successful cryptocurrency. NEM may survive, it may not. But calling NEM dead does not make it so.

ok, please post some code of NEM or any other achievement.

btw please give me a break when talking about controversial pasts after what happened with Nem today, otherwise i might die of shock.
You missed my point.  It's too early to call NEM dead precisely because there is nothing to evaluate. A sock puppet outing is not going to sink the project. Nice try though.

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June 12, 2014, 11:05:52 PM
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Satoshi likely posted under different aliases, at the very beginning, to make Bitcoin look more popular than it really was

its beyond me how u can come up with such impudent excuses now. are u not ashamed? do u want to challenge utopianfuture TaunSew? :0

No, if I were my project I would not be ashamed about it.  It's a legitimate tactic, for a brand new coin, to utilize different alises to make a coin look popular.

I think it succeeded.  NEM was nothing at the very beginning but later it attracted reputable developers and a huge community.  The past doesn't change the present.




The thing is, Utopianfuture might still be lying to you. He admitted to having sockpuppet accounts to make NEM seem more "lively", probably in an attempt to cover up/push away any more comments concerning his accounts having Stakes in NEM. Seems like he's lying about making the NEM thread more lively, to cover that up...
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June 12, 2014, 11:10:29 PM
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Satoshi likely posted under different aliases, at the very beginning, to make Bitcoin look more popular than it really was

its beyond me how u can come up with such impudent excuses now. are u not ashamed? do u want to challenge utopianfuture TaunSew? :0

CfA, clearly you have not grasped that it's entirely possible all these people you are attempting to reason with are one person- UP, who owns most of the NEM stake.  This oversight is probably how you got snagged in the first place.  It's a basic problem with this communication medium.

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June 12, 2014, 11:14:06 PM
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Satoshi likely posted under different aliases, at the very beginning, to make Bitcoin look more popular than it really was

its beyond me how u can come up with such impudent excuses now. are u not ashamed? do u want to challenge utopianfuture TaunSew? :0

CfA, clearly you have not grasped that it's entirely possible all these people you are attempting to reason with are one person- UP, who owns most of the NEM stake.  This oversight is probably how you got snagged in the first place.  It's a basic problem with this communication medium.

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u do have a solid point there -bm

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June 12, 2014, 11:20:24 PM
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Satoshi likely posted under different aliases, at the very beginning, to make Bitcoin look more popular than it really was

its beyond me how u can come up with such impudent excuses now. are u not ashamed? do u want to challenge utopianfuture TaunSew? :0

CfA, clearly you have not grasped that it's entirely possible all these people you are attempting to reason with are one person- UP, who owns most of the NEM stake.  This oversight is probably how you got snagged in the first place.  It's a basic problem with this communication medium.

-bm


u do have a solid point there -bm

do you even realize how much time you've probably spent having discussions with these sock puppets?  practically everyone on the nxt forums are anonymous.  Takes a little while to figure out who are the real people.

it's fairly obvious most of the people posting(pro-NEM) are native chinese speakers.

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June 12, 2014, 11:23:12 PM
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Satoshi likely posted under different aliases, at the very beginning, to make Bitcoin look more popular than it really was

its beyond me how u can come up with such impudent excuses now. are u not ashamed? do u want to challenge utopianfuture TaunSew? :0

CfA, clearly you have not grasped that it's entirely possible all these people you are attempting to reason with are one person- UP, who owns most of the NEM stake.  This oversight is probably how you got snagged in the first place.  It's a basic problem with this communication medium.

-bm


u do have a solid point there -bm

do you even realize how much time you've probably spent having discussions with these sock puppets?  practically everyone on the nxt forums are anonymous.  Takes a little while to figure out who are the real people.

it's fairly obvious most of the people posting(pro-NEM) are native chinese speakers.

-bm


Really?  Most NEM stakeholders have impeccable grammar and spelling.   This CFA keeps spelling "you" as "u" (in addition to other other irritable errors) and doesn't know how to space paragraphs.   You also can't figure out something called capitalizing letters.  If you're going to resort to an ad hominem that we are "native Chinese speakers", at least set the standard (of the english language) yourself.


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June 12, 2014, 11:24:11 PM
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Satoshi likely posted under different aliases, at the very beginning, to make Bitcoin look more popular than it really was

its beyond me how u can come up with such impudent excuses now. are u not ashamed? do u want to challenge utopianfuture TaunSew? :0

CfA, clearly you have not grasped that it's entirely possible all these people you are attempting to reason with are one person- UP, who owns most of the NEM stake.  This oversight is probably how you got snagged in the first place.  It's a basic problem with this communication medium.

-bm


u do have a solid point there -bm

do you even realize how much time you've probably spent having discussions with these sock puppets?  practically everyone on the nxt forums are anonymous.  Takes a little while to figure out who are the real people.

it's fairly obvious most of the people posting(pro-NEM) are native chinese speakers.

-bm


Really?  Most NEM stakeholders have impeccable grammar and spelling.   This CFA keeps spelling "you" as "u" (in addition to other other irritable errors) and doesn't know how to space paragraphs.   You also can't figure out something called capitalizing letters.  If you're going to resort to an ad hominem that we are "native Chinese speakers", at least set a standard (of the english language) yourself.

i am from russia excuse my english

u excused utopianfutures bad english after all, accept me as well.

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June 12, 2014, 11:31:50 PM
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you guys do realize that most of these accounts from the "NEM community" are likely UP?

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I disagree. His brand of bad English is particularly unique and not shared by many other posters in the NEM threads.

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June 12, 2014, 11:32:41 PM
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Dear Nemsters,

this NEM Community should be strong enough to hold togheter.  UF has done so much work for NEM, he has supported you all the way and every question of you has been answerd by UF. Utopian has shown so much courage and engagement in this project, he has sacrificed so much energy in this project. Yes he has done a misstake but everybody isnt free of mistakes.

Dear Nemsters it is now time to give something back to Utopians engagement and appreciate hes work for NEM, and it is time to show everybody else outside of NEM that we are a big community and a such great strong community hold toghter AND is ready to ForGiVe.
We should show everybody that beeing a part of the NEM community is much more than a member.

Utopian should staY!  Lets show everybody how strong this community realy is.!!
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June 12, 2014, 11:33:58 PM
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this NEM Community should be strong enough to hold togheter.  UF has done so much work for NEM, he has supported you all the way and every question of you has been answerd by UF. Utopian has shown so much courage and engagement in this project, he has sacrificed so much energy in this project. Yes he has done a misstake but everybody isnt free of mistakes.

Utopian stabbed ur back, lying and laughingly. He did nothing but collect work on his way to his OWN SELFISH FINANCIAL FREEDOM.

developers and community are his slaves. how can u not realize this after all? people are so delusional. Wow.

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June 12, 2014, 11:34:31 PM
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you guys do realize that most of these accounts from the "NEM community" are likely UP?

-bm


I disagree. His brand of bad English is particularly unique and not shared by many other posters in the NEM threads.

"brand of English"

how many of our decisions here come down to this particular factor?  this so called writing style fingerprint?  Notice how just about every single cryptocurrency uses this, at least partially, as proof of identity.  Bitcoin included- how many articles have been written about how 'Satoshi' used British spellings?

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