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June 12, 2014, 09:45:04 PM |
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after utopianfuture has now been convicted of secretly claiming sockpuppet stakes of a supposedly "fairly distributed" NEM Project in his position of "grand leader" - the community question has been raised if or if not he should be excluded/removed from the project as a valid consequence. Read more info here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649852.0VOTE TODAY1 Maximum vote per User. Poll will run for 14 days. YOU are really kidding... I didn't see ANY proof. Everyone can open a account and post suspicious things...
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darkota
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June 12, 2014, 09:57:56 PM |
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In this statement will try to address three issues: One is on NEM distributional idea which I don't think many people understand even with many many pages and words have been poured on the issue so far. Secondly, I will address the issue of my personal conduct and the last issue is about what will be the future of NEM and UtopianFuture.
NEM distributional idea is best understood in this summary written in the Development Contract.
"The purpose of the stakeholder community distribution round is to spread the majority of NEM evenly and to many stakeholders as long as the logistics allows. The goal is to build a big and decentralized community that can support NEM's exsitence and operation as a decentralized network"
IMO, the distribution round was a success. We are now having a big and passionate group of developers and helpers that share the same goal and a sense of solidarity. That's very important because they will be shaping the future of NEM with or without me.
The spread of the distribution round was excellent as you can see in the population statistics. The number does not lie and we can show that to any detractors.
I failed in my personal conduct and not adhere to the rules I set myself. If you are familiar with American politics, now I have the Eliot Spitzer or Anthony Weiner problem.
I had a few sockpuppet accounts but I have no intention of cashing out any of them. I did not write down the sock accounts (using an arbitrary password that I can't remember) neither and plan to donate the fees for the development fund. I created sock accounts to keep the thread at a high demand when we have few supporters. Ghosthouse is the only account I kept using more so that I can use it sometimes to cheer up NEM threads.
It is what it is. I apologize to my core team members, to all NEM supporting developers and helpers for this issue. I will step down from now on.
The task of maintaining NEM stakeholder list will be transfered to Patmast3r. He has been sharing the access to the file with me for quite sometimes. NEMtoken account will be passed to Pastmast3r as well.
NEM Twitter account will be transfered to Makoto and he could pass on to the most suitable person.
NEM development fund accounts will be fully transfered to Jaguar0625, Gimre and Thies1965.
Ournem website will be transfered to the core team as well.
Update and Discussion and Refunds threads will be closed after new threads with similar functions can be made up.
All press contacts will be passed to the core team so that they can find an appropriate person for the job.
I resign from all leading function within NEM and this will be the last post of UtopianFuture.
He confirmed to have sockpuppet accounts as shown here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.10260;topicseen. He's now labelled as a scammer/liar.
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From Above (OP)
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June 12, 2014, 10:01:10 PM |
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YOU are really kidding... I didn't see ANY proof. Everyone can open a account and post suspicious things...
sorry dude, but u better hear it from the former leader himself then I failed in my personal conduct and not adhere to the rules I set myself. If you are familiar with American politics, now I have the Eliot Spitzer or Anthony Weiner problem.
I had a few sockpuppet accounts but I have no intention of cashing out any of them. I did not write down the sock accounts (using an arbitrary password that I can't remember) neither and plan to donate the fees for the development fund. I created sock accounts to keep the thread at a high demand when we have few supporters. Ghosthouse is the only account I kept using more so that I can use it sometimes to cheer up NEM threads.
It is what it is. I apologize to my core team members, to all NEM supporting developers and helpers for this issue. I will step down from now on.
The task of maintaining NEM stakeholder list will be transfered to Patmast3r. He has been sharing the access to the file with me for quite sometimes. NEMtoken account will be passed to Pastmast3r as well.
NEM Twitter account will be transfered to Makoto and he could pass on to the most suitable person.
NEM development fund accounts will be fully transfered to Jaguar0625, Gimre and Thies1965.
Ournem website will be transfered to the core team as well.
Update and Discussion and Refunds threads will be closed after new threads with similar functions can be made up.
All press contacts will be passed to the core team so that they can find an appropriate person for the job.
I resign from all leading function within NEM and this will be the last post of UtopianFuture.
Now the next question. Is utopianfuture actually patmaster as well? Who knows? I'm out of this hoax project! Selling my stakes now on Nxt AE voting can thus now actually be closed ...
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bluemeanie1
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June 12, 2014, 10:04:19 PM |
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so he's stepping down? and handing over leadership to one of his sock puppets? you are seriously dumb if you don't clear out of this project and never look back. -bm
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lordoliver
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June 12, 2014, 10:08:51 PM |
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YOU are really kidding... I didn't see ANY proof. Everyone can open a account and post suspicious things...
sorry dude, but u better hear it from the former leader himself then I failed in my personal conduct and not adhere to the rules I set myself. If you are familiar with American politics, now I have the Eliot Spitzer or Anthony Weiner problem.
I had a few sockpuppet accounts but I have no intention of cashing out any of them. I did not write down the sock accounts (using an arbitrary password that I can't remember) neither and plan to donate the fees for the development fund. I created sock accounts to keep the thread at a high demand when we have few supporters. Ghosthouse is the only account I kept using more so that I can use it sometimes to cheer up NEM threads.
It is what it is. I apologize to my core team members, to all NEM supporting developers and helpers for this issue. I will step down from now on.
The task of maintaining NEM stakeholder list will be transfered to Patmast3r. He has been sharing the access to the file with me for quite sometimes. NEMtoken account will be passed to Pastmast3r as well.
NEM Twitter account will be transfered to Makoto and he could pass on to the most suitable person.
NEM development fund accounts will be fully transfered to Jaguar0625, Gimre and Thies1965.
Ournem website will be transfered to the core team as well.
Update and Discussion and Refunds threads will be closed after new threads with similar functions can be made up.
All press contacts will be passed to the core team so that they can find an appropriate person for the job.
I resign from all leading function within NEM and this will be the last post of UtopianFuture.
Now the next question. Is utopianfuture actually patmaster as well? Who knows? I'm out of this hoax project! Selling my stakes now on Nxt AE voting can thus now actually be closed ... ok, but still: so what? You are hurting NEM more with this thread then him. Thank you.
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From Above (OP)
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June 12, 2014, 10:11:32 PM |
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YOU are really kidding... I didn't see ANY proof. Everyone can open a account and post suspicious things...
sorry dude, but u better hear it from the former leader himself then I failed in my personal conduct and not adhere to the rules I set myself. If you are familiar with American politics, now I have the Eliot Spitzer or Anthony Weiner problem.
I had a few sockpuppet accounts but I have no intention of cashing out any of them. I did not write down the sock accounts (using an arbitrary password that I can't remember) neither and plan to donate the fees for the development fund. I created sock accounts to keep the thread at a high demand when we have few supporters. Ghosthouse is the only account I kept using more so that I can use it sometimes to cheer up NEM threads.
It is what it is. I apologize to my core team members, to all NEM supporting developers and helpers for this issue. I will step down from now on.
The task of maintaining NEM stakeholder list will be transfered to Patmast3r. He has been sharing the access to the file with me for quite sometimes. NEMtoken account will be passed to Pastmast3r as well.
NEM Twitter account will be transfered to Makoto and he could pass on to the most suitable person.
NEM development fund accounts will be fully transfered to Jaguar0625, Gimre and Thies1965.
Ournem website will be transfered to the core team as well.
Update and Discussion and Refunds threads will be closed after new threads with similar functions can be made up.
All press contacts will be passed to the core team so that they can find an appropriate person for the job.
I resign from all leading function within NEM and this will be the last post of UtopianFuture.
Now the next question. Is utopianfuture actually patmaster as well? Who knows? I'm out of this hoax project! Selling my stakes now on Nxt AE voting can thus now actually be closed ... ok, but still: so what? You are hurting NEM more with this thread then him. Thank you. NEM is dead. face it this project based on a lie and hoax of "fairness and quality" worked because of community support. at least half of community will not trust project anymore after this just sit back and see. PS i dont give a shit im out of this disgusting project
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darkota
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June 12, 2014, 10:13:32 PM |
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i sold my NEM stake for 2 btc a few days ago...thankfully before this becomes worthless
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HinnomTX
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June 12, 2014, 10:19:04 PM |
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This is a hyped up crisis, exploited by Come-from-Above, which gives anyone the opportunity to snap up cheap NEM stakes. Utopianfuture has already fessed up and bowed out. Think all work on NEM stops now? Did NXT die when BCNext bailed? Watch and learn.
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...math, you can trust math.
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June 12, 2014, 10:23:28 PM |
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3 people telling you 20 times to sell and that they dont care funny isnt it?
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lordoliver
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June 12, 2014, 10:24:59 PM |
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YOU are really kidding... I didn't see ANY proof. Everyone can open a account and post suspicious things...
sorry dude, but u better hear it from the former leader himself then I failed in my personal conduct and not adhere to the rules I set myself. If you are familiar with American politics, now I have the Eliot Spitzer or Anthony Weiner problem.
I had a few sockpuppet accounts but I have no intention of cashing out any of them. I did not write down the sock accounts (using an arbitrary password that I can't remember) neither and plan to donate the fees for the development fund. I created sock accounts to keep the thread at a high demand when we have few supporters. Ghosthouse is the only account I kept using more so that I can use it sometimes to cheer up NEM threads.
It is what it is. I apologize to my core team members, to all NEM supporting developers and helpers for this issue. I will step down from now on.
The task of maintaining NEM stakeholder list will be transfered to Patmast3r. He has been sharing the access to the file with me for quite sometimes. NEMtoken account will be passed to Pastmast3r as well.
NEM Twitter account will be transfered to Makoto and he could pass on to the most suitable person.
NEM development fund accounts will be fully transfered to Jaguar0625, Gimre and Thies1965.
Ournem website will be transfered to the core team as well.
Update and Discussion and Refunds threads will be closed after new threads with similar functions can be made up.
All press contacts will be passed to the core team so that they can find an appropriate person for the job.
I resign from all leading function within NEM and this will be the last post of UtopianFuture.
Now the next question. Is utopianfuture actually patmaster as well? Who knows? I'm out of this hoax project! Selling my stakes now on Nxt AE voting can thus now actually be closed ... ok, but still: so what? You are hurting NEM more with this thread then him. Thank you. NEM is dead. face it this project based on a lie and hoax of "fairness and quality" worked because of community support. at least half of community will not trust project anymore after this just sit back and see. PS i dont give a shit im out of this disgusting project you just want a cheap stack. If you want to sell yours. I buy it for 0.1BTC. Its worthless anyway ;-)
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bluemeanie1
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June 12, 2014, 10:27:07 PM |
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3 people telling you 20 times to sell and that they dont care funny isnt it? dont forget UP still has his stake(secretly), and wants to get out. If the price hits the floor he can't do that. mostly Im participating in these threads to validate what my initial suspicions were about this project, and also for fun. -bm
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June 12, 2014, 10:32:38 PM |
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WARNING
these people extremely care for NEM stakes, they are desprate to get them cheap from you. Dont let them get you.
Come-from-above Gorillajam Darkota
They use typical trolling tactics. They want to hurt NEM, nothing else, the proof is their posts. Read them carefully and see all their irational emotional character. They know this cant stop such megalithic project as NEM, they just exploit situation for their own good.
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From Above (OP)
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June 12, 2014, 10:33:54 PM |
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WARNING
these people extremely care for NEM stakes, they are desprate to get them cheap from you. Dont let them get you.
Come-from-above Gorillajam Darkota
They use typical trolling tactics. They want to hurt NEM, nothing else, the proof is their posts. Read them carefully and see all their irational emotional character. They know this cant stop such megalithic project as NEM, they just exploit situation for their own good.
roflmao what a conspiracy all my nem stakes are for sale. i have no interest in this. we all know that NEM PRICE WILL GO FAR LOWER THAN CURRENT STAKE PRICE ON NXT AE AFTER LAUNCH
if u dont realize this then u are utterly delusional and neither i can help u anymore
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Coinraptor
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June 12, 2014, 10:35:09 PM |
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3 people telling you 20 times to sell and that they dont care funny isnt it? dont forget UP still has his stake(secretly), and wants to get out. If the price hits the floor he can't do that. mostly Im participating in these threads to validate what my initial suspicions were about this project, and also for fun. -bm you care only for your precious NXT, we are not stupid. Who gives a fuck about his stake. This is NEM, there are not NXT type whales with 50 mio+ stakes.
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From Above (OP)
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June 12, 2014, 10:36:20 PM |
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3 people telling you 20 times to sell and that they dont care funny isnt it? dont forget UP still has his stake(secretly), and wants to get out. If the price hits the floor he can't do that. mostly Im participating in these threads to validate what my initial suspicions were about this project, and also for fun. -bm you care only for your precious NXT, we are not stupid. Who gives a fuck about his stake. This is NEM, there are not NXT type whales with 50 mio+ stakes. this is just ridiculous beyond comprehension who would dare to compare nem with established projects like bitcoin or nxt, mastercoin etc. god who would even dare that
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bluemeanie1
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June 12, 2014, 10:40:10 PM |
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you guys do realize that most of these accounts from the "NEM community" are likely UP?
-bm
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Coinraptor
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June 12, 2014, 10:41:46 PM |
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so he's stepping down? and handing over leadership to one of his sock puppets? you are seriously dumb if you don't clear out of this project and never look back. -bm Hi BCnext, I heard you made lot of money fucking with noobs buying into NXT. Also please stop coding like in 80s man, its tyring to remake your shitty code. But it was really genius from your side to create sockpuppets and sell whole coin to yourself, I give you that.
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From Above (OP)
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June 12, 2014, 10:43:44 PM |
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But it was really genius from your side to create sockpuppets and sell whole coin to yourself, I give you that.
u are mixing names now, this is what NEM is convicted for today. good one!
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June 12, 2014, 10:45:34 PM |
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3 people telling you 20 times to sell and that they dont care funny isnt it? dont forget UP still has his stake(secretly), and wants to get out. If the price hits the floor he can't do that. mostly Im participating in these threads to validate what my initial suspicions were about this project, and also for fun. -bm you care only for your precious NXT, we are not stupid. Who gives a fuck about his stake. This is NEM, there are not NXT type whales with 50 mio+ stakes. this is just ridiculous beyond comprehension who would dare to compare nem with established projects like bitcoin or nxt, mastercoin etc. god who would even dare that Actually me, obviously.
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From Above (OP)
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June 12, 2014, 10:48:07 PM |
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3 people telling you 20 times to sell and that they dont care funny isnt it? dont forget UP still has his stake(secretly), and wants to get out. If the price hits the floor he can't do that. mostly Im participating in these threads to validate what my initial suspicions were about this project, and also for fun. -bm you care only for your precious NXT, we are not stupid. Who gives a fuck about his stake. This is NEM, there are not NXT type whales with 50 mio+ stakes. this is just ridiculous beyond comprehension who would dare to compare nem with established projects like bitcoin or nxt, mastercoin etc. god who would even dare that Actually me, obviously. well u are obviously out of your mind to compare vaporware with the most established cryptocurrencies in the world. do u need any help? BITCOIN FOR THE WIN
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