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June 14, 2014, 11:17:00 PM
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Embassy of Russian Federation in Kiev and Aborigines.

As I understand, an attack on embassy is virtually equal to declaring a war. Are those Ukrainians that stupid or just being intentionally used by their masters? Cool

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June 14, 2014, 11:34:21 PM
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As I understand, an attack on embassy is virtually equal to declaring a war.
It's much worse than a declaration of war. Declaration of war is a formal act performed through signing of a document. Attack on embassy is de facto and de jure aggression against sovereign territory without a formal declaration of war.
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June 14, 2014, 11:52:06 PM
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Are those Ukrainians that stupid

There is hard presence of Iodine Deficit in central and western part of country.


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June 14, 2014, 11:55:29 PM
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As I understand, an attack on embassy is virtually equal to declaring a war.
It's much worse than a declaration of war. Declaration of war is a formal act performed through signing of a document. Attack on embassy is de facto and de jure aggression against sovereign territory without a formal declaration of war.

It seems that the crowd there is going to assault the building... Roll Eyes

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June 15, 2014, 12:02:39 AM
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Ok, we're cool... About contractors (mercenaries): I believe there is a limited number of CIA and Blackwater operatives in eastern Ukraine,
but definitely less than the number of Spetsnaz ones (which started the trouble).
The trouble started much earlier, at Euromaidan. CIA-engineered coup opened the Pandora box.
The easterners just used the same technique - seizing government buildings. The only thing that's different is the side which they are fighting for.
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June 15, 2014, 03:37:21 AM
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Talking about 200 gunmen in aircraft.
http://times.mk.ua/News/5045/v-sbitom-nad-luganskom-samolete-dolzhny-byli-letet-200-soldat-i-oficerov-vsu-nardep

Still no official data. Who will believe in empty cargo?

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June 15, 2014, 07:45:06 AM
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Talking about 200 gunmen in aircraft.
http://times.mk.ua/News/5045/v-sbitom-nad-luganskom-samolete-dolzhny-byli-letet-200-soldat-i-oficerov-vsu-nardep

Still no official data. Who will believe in empty cargo?

As we can see by the photos taken at the landing crash site, the plane probably also carried some military vehicles...  Cool



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June 15, 2014, 08:24:41 AM
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For first there are coming some group of vehicles from Lugansk Airport, and they take away some things from field.

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June 15, 2014, 09:20:47 AM
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The important thing is that no MANPADS / IGLA / STRELA was used to down this aircraft. Even the Ukrainians have admitted that the plane went down as a result of heavy machine gun fire. This is a direct consequence of the Ukrainian Armed Forces using inexperienced pilots to navigate their aircraft.
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June 15, 2014, 09:31:07 AM
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Russian Embassy cars in Kiev  Grin Grin Grin


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June 15, 2014, 09:45:42 AM
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The important thing is that no MANPADS / IGLA / STRELA was used to down this aircraft. Even the Ukrainians have admitted that the plane went down as a result of heavy machine gun fire. This is a direct consequence of the Ukrainian Armed Forces using inexperienced pilots to navigate their aircraft.

How could pilots' experience help the plane if it was landing? Roll Eyes

Also, I've heard that they found two used air-defense systems and one which was out of order with a missile stuck in it... Cool

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June 15, 2014, 12:13:01 PM
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Lugansk Republic forces deny to shoot at aircraft. Missile lunch was made from Kiev forces controlled territory.

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June 15, 2014, 12:15:22 PM
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Are those Ukrainians that stupid

There is hard presence of Iodine Deficit in central and western part of country.



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June 15, 2014, 12:19:57 PM
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The important thing is that no MANPADS / IGLA / STRELA was used to down this aircraft. Even the Ukrainians have admitted that the plane went down as a result of heavy machine gun fire. This is a direct consequence of the Ukrainian Armed Forces using inexperienced pilots to navigate their aircraft.


Rebels shot down an Il-76 transport plane in Luhansk, killing all 40 paratroopers and nine crew members who were aboard. Surveillance camera footage from the city showed a mid-air explosion after an object – apparently a rocket – streaked into the sky, followed by a larger explosion and fire on the ground. A Kiev military analyst later reported that the empty tubes of two Igla handheld surface-to-air missiles had been found near Luhansk airport, the only significant piece of infrastructure Ukrainian forces have been able to retain in the rebel-held city.

Vladimir Inogorodsky, spokesman of the self-declared Luhansk People's Republic, confirmed rebels had shot the plane down with Igla missiles and said they were currently blockading the airport. Rebels declared they would not allow any more flights into the airport last week.



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June 15, 2014, 12:35:53 PM
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Now we know how many Russian-speaking grandmas are needed to shoot down a large cargo plane!  Cheesy

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June 15, 2014, 06:53:45 PM
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Has anyone heard anything about a Su-25 (Su-24?) taken down the same day? Roll Eyes

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Just look at his face...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cycpR_DcEIU

This person is a typical oligophrenic. Cheesy Just like this one:

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Bolotov about IL76
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20asrSl_e5Q

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If you claim iodine deficiency is making people stupid , this might make you think twice before accusing others:

Check regions, if You check a large country as Russian Federation.

That claim medics, not me. http://www.iccidd.org/



Summary of Iodine Nutrition in Western & Central Europe
Deficient: Romania
http://iccidd.server295.com/pages/protecting-children/global-efforts/western-central-europe.php

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If you claim iodine deficiency is making people stupid , this might make you think twice before accusing others:

Check regions, if You check a large country as Russian Federation.

That claim medics, not me. http://www.iccidd.org/



From the website you quote:



Also comparing in this case Romania with Russia



Besides , never once I have argued that Romania is the best example from UE.
After all we had a ex-kgb officer as president for 11 years.




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New Age of DEFI
A Non-Code Platform for
Decentralized Trading Instruments

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