Liad.Services
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October 20, 2016, 08:22:23 AM |
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Is it a new site? As I haven't heard about it before.
Can someone put his feedback on it as I am interested to play.
Also, are you willing to offer sportsbook or its only a slot machines and roulette casino?
I think that sportsbook is one of the important thing to have on an online casino
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October 20, 2016, 08:28:17 AM |
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I have been playing at bitstarz for many years, The terms and conditions were there at the time of his play.
Until just recently the terms for the bonus were unreasonably difficult to find - a player could put more than reasonable amount of effort into educating them self and never see the max bet rule: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454521.msg16439254#msg16439254
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October 20, 2016, 10:56:39 AM |
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Is it a new site? As I haven't heard about it before.
Can someone put his feedback on it as I am interested to play.
Also, are you willing to offer sportsbook or its only a slot machines and roulette casino?
I think that sportsbook is one of the important thing to have on an online casino
Nope, this is not a new site, this site is so so, not too old and not to new but what i do know is someone already put this site to scam accusation already because of scamming thing. But if you are willing to play on their site you can directly go to their site because it is still online until now. And bitstarz.com is based on slot games, i dont know if they have any sportbooks or roulette because after than scam accusation i never go on checking their site again
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bitstars.net (OP)
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October 20, 2016, 04:54:11 PM |
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Is it a new site? As I haven't heard about it before.
Can someone put his feedback on it as I am interested to play.
Also, are you willing to offer sportsbook or its only a slot machines and roulette casino?
I think that sportsbook is one of the important thing to have on an online casino
Hi there, You can always check us out and say what you think! Remember you're getting 20 spins for signing up, so you can play around a little bit and make up your mind. If you after that wishes to deposit. Remember that 0.05 BTC is required to get the full 100% match and 180 free spins. The scam accusation seems to come from people who have exceeded the 0.025 BTC per spin wager with bonus money, so as long as you don't do that, you won't have any issues what so ever. If you have any questions about anything, feel free to PM or write here! Mike
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Lucky7btc
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October 21, 2016, 09:37:52 AM |
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Is it a new site? As I haven't heard about it before.
Can someone put his feedback on it as I am interested to play.
Also, are you willing to offer sportsbook or its only a slot machines and roulette casino?
I think that sportsbook is one of the important thing to have on an online casino
Hi there, You can always check us out and say what you think! Remember you're getting 20 spins for signing up, so you can play around a little bit and make up your mind. If you after that wishes to deposit. Remember that 0.05 BTC is required to get the full 100% match and 180 free spins. The scam accusation seems to come from people who have exceeded the 0.025 BTC per spin wager with bonus money, so as long as you don't do that, you won't have any issues what so ever. If you have any questions about anything, feel free to PM or write here! Mike Mike you just don't get it do you? Seriously you really don't!
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bitstars.net (OP)
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October 21, 2016, 09:41:23 AM |
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Hi there, Sorry, I'm quite confused here? I thought you were asking me Mike
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October 21, 2016, 12:15:25 PM |
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Well uh...I've ask you this a couple times. Would love an answer, or ball park it if you don't want to crunch the numbers. Well, you have to understand that it's quite a rare occurrence. 99.99% of all players in the casino have no problem what so ever with us and we have no problem with them. But there's a super small minority of players who could engage in fraudulent behavior of various kinds. Trying to open multiple accounts to get free spins, opening multiple accounts to take multiple welcome offers, double spenders, etc. These could risk of having winnings confiscated due to abusing the casino.
How many cashouts have you cancelled because of this 5 euro / .025 btc max bet rule? What is the total of these cancelled cashouts? ALso, out of curiosity, what % of players manage to clear a 100% deposit bonus at Bitstarz? (btw, sorry haven't gotten back to you about the podcast. There was no time last week and it was cancelled this week. Hopefully we can work it out for an upcoming show)
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bitstars.net (OP)
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October 21, 2016, 12:26:19 PM |
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Well uh...I've ask you this a couple times. Would love an answer, or ball park it if you don't want to crunch the numbers. Well, you have to understand that it's quite a rare occurrence. 99.99% of all players in the casino have no problem what so ever with us and we have no problem with them. But there's a super small minority of players who could engage in fraudulent behavior of various kinds. Trying to open multiple accounts to get free spins, opening multiple accounts to take multiple welcome offers, double spenders, etc. These could risk of having winnings confiscated due to abusing the casino.
How many cashouts have you cancelled because of this 5 euro / .025 btc max bet rule? What is the total of these cancelled cashouts? ALso, out of curiosity, what % of players manage to clear a 100% deposit bonus at Bitstarz? (btw, sorry haven't gotten back to you about the podcast. There was no time last week and it was cancelled this week. Hopefully we can work it out for an upcoming show) Hi there, Sorry! Totally missed this one, I don't have any numbers on exactly how many cashouts we've cancelled due to this rule. Are you referring to how many compared to the one we let go? On top of my head, I believe that 20% of all bonus money we give out turns into cash. Remember when I say bonus money, not the amount of players who manage to wager. So it could be for example 19 people who won't get a dime and a 20th person winnings are huge. I hope that makes sense. Oh no worries, you let me know when you're ready and so am I, just PM me Mike
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October 21, 2016, 12:54:00 PM |
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Well uh...I've ask you this a couple times. Would love an answer, or ball park it if you don't want to crunch the numbers. Well, you have to understand that it's quite a rare occurrence. 99.99% of all players in the casino have no problem what so ever with us and we have no problem with them. But there's a super small minority of players who could engage in fraudulent behavior of various kinds. Trying to open multiple accounts to get free spins, opening multiple accounts to take multiple welcome offers, double spenders, etc. These could risk of having winnings confiscated due to abusing the casino.
How many cashouts have you cancelled because of this 5 euro / .025 btc max bet rule? What is the total of these cancelled cashouts? ALso, out of curiosity, what % of players manage to clear a 100% deposit bonus at Bitstarz? (btw, sorry haven't gotten back to you about the podcast. There was no time last week and it was cancelled this week. Hopefully we can work it out for an upcoming show) Hi there, Sorry! Totally missed this one, I don't have any numbers on exactly how many cashouts we've cancelled due to this rule. Are you referring to how many compared to the one we let go? On top of my head, I believe that 20% of all bonus money we give out turns into cash. Remember when I say bonus money, not the amount of players who manage to wager. So it could be for example 19 people who won't get a dime and a 20th person winnings are huge. I hope that makes sense. Oh no worries, you let me know when you're ready and so am I, just PM me Mike I believe there are still many players losses even they turned into cashes, if he deposited one and got two in balance, after he cleared the rollover, he only has 0.1btc, it is still loss, 0.9btc loss for him. The remaining 80% lost both deposit and bonus.
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bitstars.net (OP)
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October 21, 2016, 01:06:45 PM |
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Well uh...I've ask you this a couple times. Would love an answer, or ball park it if you don't want to crunch the numbers. Well, you have to understand that it's quite a rare occurrence. 99.99% of all players in the casino have no problem what so ever with us and we have no problem with them. But there's a super small minority of players who could engage in fraudulent behavior of various kinds. Trying to open multiple accounts to get free spins, opening multiple accounts to take multiple welcome offers, double spenders, etc. These could risk of having winnings confiscated due to abusing the casino.
How many cashouts have you cancelled because of this 5 euro / .025 btc max bet rule? What is the total of these cancelled cashouts? ALso, out of curiosity, what % of players manage to clear a 100% deposit bonus at Bitstarz? (btw, sorry haven't gotten back to you about the podcast. There was no time last week and it was cancelled this week. Hopefully we can work it out for an upcoming show) Hi there, Sorry! Totally missed this one, I don't have any numbers on exactly how many cashouts we've cancelled due to this rule. Are you referring to how many compared to the one we let go? On top of my head, I believe that 20% of all bonus money we give out turns into cash. Remember when I say bonus money, not the amount of players who manage to wager. So it could be for example 19 people who won't get a dime and a 20th person winnings are huge. I hope that makes sense. Oh no worries, you let me know when you're ready and so am I, just PM me Mike I believe there are still many players losses even they turned into cashes, if he deposited one and got two in balance, after he cleared the rollover, he only has 0.1btc, it is still loss, 0.9btc loss for him. The remaining 80% lost both deposit and bonus. Hi there, I'm just talking about the bonus money here. But bonus do add a perk to the player at the end of the day, so it's always positive to get a bonus in my opinion, so that would be my recommendation as a player, not from a casino's perspective. A casino does not make money giving bonuses to players, it's the opposite. But then it comes down to personal preference. Mike
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October 21, 2016, 03:00:24 PM |
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Well uh...I've ask you this a couple times. Would love an answer, or ball park it if you don't want to crunch the numbers. Well, you have to understand that it's quite a rare occurrence. 99.99% of all players in the casino have no problem what so ever with us and we have no problem with them. But there's a super small minority of players who could engage in fraudulent behavior of various kinds. Trying to open multiple accounts to get free spins, opening multiple accounts to take multiple welcome offers, double spenders, etc. These could risk of having winnings confiscated due to abusing the casino.
How many cashouts have you cancelled because of this 5 euro / .025 btc max bet rule? What is the total of these cancelled cashouts? ALso, out of curiosity, what % of players manage to clear a 100% deposit bonus at Bitstarz? (btw, sorry haven't gotten back to you about the podcast. There was no time last week and it was cancelled this week. Hopefully we can work it out for an upcoming show) Hi there, Sorry! Totally missed this one, I don't have any numbers on exactly how many cashouts we've cancelled due to this rule. Are you referring to how many compared to the one we let go? On top of my head, I believe that 20% of all bonus money we give out turns into cash. Remember when I say bonus money, not the amount of players who manage to wager. So it could be for example 19 people who won't get a dime and a 20th person winnings are huge. I hope that makes sense. Oh no worries, you let me know when you're ready and so am I, just PM me Mike I believe there are still many players losses even they turned into cashes, if he deposited one and got two in balance, after he cleared the rollover, he only has 0.1btc, it is still loss, 0.9btc loss for him. The remaining 80% lost both deposit and bonus. Hi there, I'm just talking about the bonus money here. But bonus do add a perk to the player at the end of the day, so it's always positive to get a bonus in my opinion, so that would be my recommendation as a player, not from a casino's perspective. A casino does not make money giving bonuses to players, it's the opposite. But then it comes down to personal preference. Mike Bonus is the best way to earn money from players, most of ppl can't clear the high rollover.
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October 21, 2016, 03:19:54 PM |
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Well uh...I've ask you this a couple times. Would love an answer, or ball park it if you don't want to crunch the numbers. Well, you have to understand that it's quite a rare occurrence. 99.99% of all players in the casino have no problem what so ever with us and we have no problem with them. But there's a super small minority of players who could engage in fraudulent behavior of various kinds. Trying to open multiple accounts to get free spins, opening multiple accounts to take multiple welcome offers, double spenders, etc. These could risk of having winnings confiscated due to abusing the casino.
How many cashouts have you cancelled because of this 5 euro / .025 btc max bet rule? What is the total of these cancelled cashouts? ALso, out of curiosity, what % of players manage to clear a 100% deposit bonus at Bitstarz? (btw, sorry haven't gotten back to you about the podcast. There was no time last week and it was cancelled this week. Hopefully we can work it out for an upcoming show) Hi there, Sorry! Totally missed this one, I don't have any numbers on exactly how many cashouts we've cancelled due to this rule. Are you referring to how many compared to the one we let go? On top of my head, I believe that 20% of all bonus money we give out turns into cash. Remember when I say bonus money, not the amount of players who manage to wager. So it could be for example 19 people who won't get a dime and a 20th person winnings are huge. I hope that makes sense. Oh no worries, you let me know when you're ready and so am I, just PM me Mike I believe there are still many players losses even they turned into cashes, if he deposited one and got two in balance, after he cleared the rollover, he only has 0.1btc, it is still loss, 0.9btc loss for him. The remaining 80% lost both deposit and bonus. Hi there, I'm just talking about the bonus money here. But bonus do add a perk to the player at the end of the day, so it's always positive to get a bonus in my opinion, so that would be my recommendation as a player, not from a casino's perspective. A casino does not make money giving bonuses to players, it's the opposite. But then it comes down to personal preference. Mike In total, what is your total gain from seizing cashouts from players for placing a bet greater than 5 euro or BTC.025 bitcoin with an active bonus. Ballpark it if you have to please.
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yhlsqj
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October 21, 2016, 03:24:44 PM |
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Well uh...I've ask you this a couple times. Would love an answer, or ball park it if you don't want to crunch the numbers. Well, you have to understand that it's quite a rare occurrence. 99.99% of all players in the casino have no problem what so ever with us and we have no problem with them. But there's a super small minority of players who could engage in fraudulent behavior of various kinds. Trying to open multiple accounts to get free spins, opening multiple accounts to take multiple welcome offers, double spenders, etc. These could risk of having winnings confiscated due to abusing the casino.
How many cashouts have you cancelled because of this 5 euro / .025 btc max bet rule? What is the total of these cancelled cashouts? ALso, out of curiosity, what % of players manage to clear a 100% deposit bonus at Bitstarz? (btw, sorry haven't gotten back to you about the podcast. There was no time last week and it was cancelled this week. Hopefully we can work it out for an upcoming show) Hi there, Sorry! Totally missed this one, I don't have any numbers on exactly how many cashouts we've cancelled due to this rule. Are you referring to how many compared to the one we let go? On top of my head, I believe that 20% of all bonus money we give out turns into cash. Remember when I say bonus money, not the amount of players who manage to wager. So it could be for example 19 people who won't get a dime and a 20th person winnings are huge. I hope that makes sense. Oh no worries, you let me know when you're ready and so am I, just PM me Mike I believe there are still many players losses even they turned into cashes, if he deposited one and got two in balance, after he cleared the rollover, he only has 0.1btc, it is still loss, 0.9btc loss for him. The remaining 80% lost both deposit and bonus. Hi there, I'm just talking about the bonus money here. But bonus do add a perk to the player at the end of the day, so it's always positive to get a bonus in my opinion, so that would be my recommendation as a player, not from a casino's perspective. A casino does not make money giving bonuses to players, it's the opposite. But then it comes down to personal preference. Mike In total, what is your total gain from seizing cashouts from players for placing a bet greater than 5 euro or BTC.025 bitcoin with an active bonus. Ballpark it if you have to please. OP, plz answer it, why you always avoid this questin? I am afraid OP have scammed over 1000 btc, alexa.com shows us your global traffic rank is 30k th, rather big site, even is larger than most of fiat casinos. God will punish the scammer owner.
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October 22, 2016, 04:13:20 PM |
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I have only good things to say about Bitstarz.com.
These people are passionate and are striving to make their site the biggest and best Bitcoin betting site. They do also offer regular deposits of course but that's kind of a must if you want the growth.
If anyone have any question at all you are all free to contact me and I will explain and help you out. This site is the only Bitcoin accepting Casino with a legit license which force these guys to follow the rules that is regarding betting.
Anyhow, I do not personally work with these guys but has worked with some of them as well as worked with I-gaming which grants me a good insight in the business, that as well as several years of Bitcoin expertise.
You may know me if you have been around at Primedice. Tratten in the house. Also if you are the hero in the guts, send me a PM and I will referr you to the site including the best bonuses there is. I will start an affiliate network that will work beside the company it self but will have direct contact with employees and will sort vip promotions for only mine registered players.
Have a good one guys, wish you all the best of the best. Peace out and light up.
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October 22, 2016, 04:50:12 PM |
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I have only good things to say about Bitstarz.com.
Did you read about other players experiences?
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Lucky7btc
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October 22, 2016, 04:55:39 PM |
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I have only good things to say about Bitstarz.com.
These people are passionate and are striving to make their site the biggest and best Bitcoin betting site. They do also offer regular deposits of course but that's kind of a must if you want the growth.
If anyone have any question at all you are all free to contact me and I will explain and help you out. This site is the only Bitcoin accepting Casino with a legit license which force these guys to follow the rules that is regarding betting.
Anyhow, I do not personally work with these guys but has worked with some of them as well as worked with I-gaming which grants me a good insight in the business, that as well as several years of Bitcoin expertise.
You may know me if you have been around at Primedice. Tratten in the house. Also if you are the hero in the guts, send me a PM and I will referr you to the site including the best bonuses there is. I will start an affiliate network that will work beside the company it self but will have direct contact with employees and will sort vip promotions for only mine registered players.
Have a good one guys, wish you all the best of the best. Peace out and light up.
Nice spam... We know bitstarz does pay. That's not the problem. The problem is their rogue terms and there refusal to fix the problem with limiting bonus betting.
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axrhuls
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October 22, 2016, 06:09:31 PM |
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I have only good things to say about Bitstarz.com.
These people are passionate and are striving to make their site the biggest and best Bitcoin betting site. They do also offer regular deposits of course but that's kind of a must if you want the growth.
If anyone have any question at all you are all free to contact me and I will explain and help you out. This site is the only Bitcoin accepting Casino with a legit license which force these guys to follow the rules that is regarding betting.
Anyhow, I do not personally work with these guys but has worked with some of them as well as worked with I-gaming which grants me a good insight in the business, that as well as several years of Bitcoin expertise.
You may know me if you have been around at Primedice. Tratten in the house. Also if you are the hero in the guts, send me a PM and I will referr you to the site including the best bonuses there is. I will start an affiliate network that will work beside the company it self but will have direct contact with employees and will sort vip promotions for only mine registered players.
Have a good one guys, wish you all the best of the best. Peace out and light up.
Nice spam... We know bitstarz does pay. That's not the problem. The problem is their rogue terms and there refusal to fix the problem with limiting bonus betting. I have doubt this site, if people lost the deposit money because he bet over the limit, will casino refund him? Definitely no, so this casino steals players funds because they win the money.
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October 22, 2016, 06:30:22 PM |
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Nice spam... We know bitstarz does pay. That's not the problem. The problem is their rogue terms and there refusal to fix the problem with limiting bonus betting.
Nice reply. Is it up to you or someone else to read terms & conditions? I don't want to be hard on you but please go and check Askgamblers about the site itself. The rule is there and it is up to every one of us to understand it. If you wanted to bet higher with a higher bonus and such I can understand your frustration, but just because of that rule the whole Casino is not worthy? Come on... I have doubt this site, if people lost the deposit money because he bet over the limit, will casino refund him? Definitely no, so this casino steals players funds because they win the money.
Why should they refund every each individiual that does not follow the terms & conditions that they have approved to understand? Please give a clear and understandable reason.
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October 22, 2016, 06:39:40 PM |
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don't want to be hard on you but please go and check Askgamblers about the site itself.
Rofl, where have I heard that exact same thing from? Why should they refund every each individiual that does not follow the terms & conditions that they have approved to understand? Please give a clear and understandable reason.
Because it's predatory? No one should have all their money forfeited because of a mere accident or misunderstanding. If taken to court, there is almost a zero percent chance that bitstarz would win as it's a text book example of an unconscionable clause. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconscionability
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Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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Lucky7btc
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October 23, 2016, 08:32:58 PM |
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don't want to be hard on you but please go and check Askgamblers about the site itself.
Rofl, where have I heard that exact same thing from? Why should they refund every each individiual that does not follow the terms & conditions that they have approved to understand? Please give a clear and understandable reason.
Because it's predatory? No one should have all their money forfeited because of a mere accident or misunderstanding. If taken to court, there is almost a zero percent chance that bitstarz would win as it's a text book example of an unconscionable clause. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnconscionabilityI agree... I believe bitstarz is a underfunded casino and put those terms in place in order to help prevent large hits. Casinos that are underfunded should be avoided or played with caution. A real casino that is serious about gambling doesn't put traps in there T&C
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