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XEM ALL TIME LOW ? 0.00000007  XYM a bit higher ....
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June 02, 2025, 07:51:08 AM Last edit: July 02, 2025, 03:50:35 AM by klonat |
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https://upbit.com/service_center/notice?id=5134On May 19, 2025, the Upbit South Korean crypto exchange included XEM in the list of cautious trade, and deposit services were temporarily suspended. UPBIT conducts a detailed check of the digital asset to determine whether to extend, lift or ultimately terminate trading support. UPD June 02. NEM trade is stopped. https://upbit.com/service_center/notice?id=5196I think, most likely the main real reason for the decision was the insufficient from the point of view of the exchange, the volume of bidding XEM. Weak hands are losing, strong hands take ) Its good time to buy? UPD. Upbit provides 90% of the XEM volume.
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June 03, 2025, 03:34:11 AM Last edit: June 03, 2025, 10:37:08 AM by klonat |
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You should be ashamed of yourself for making a statement like that. Not at all. I mean that at a short distance you can earn well on fluctuations in the course. Directly at this moment when I write the price rose by 26%. UPD. In a few hours +38%. As for the criticism of the bosses, I agree. Communications are destroyed. But nothing prevents interested users from communicating on this forum for example. Of course, communication is not equal to the community, but everyone can contribute to the information field. It is bad when a vacuum.
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@AntiNoise. You say the right things. I can add a little details relative to the resources for communication.
It all started a long time ago, without Hatchet, when one by one, forums were eliminated one by one. The first forum was completely destroyed, the second was transferred to the read only mode. These were excellent platforms for communication and coordination. Communication was switched to Telegram, which is suitable only for short notes and garbage. Everyone broke up through several channels, which expectedly degenerated to zero.
Subsequently, an even worst option, Twitter, was involved. This is a terrible platform. Everything crushed through individual accounts without feedback.
Channel in discord? Is it there? Maybe I am so stupid, but I could not get there, even after I overcame a heavy quest for the registration.
Bitcointalk was for some reason abandoned, but the story of NEM began with him. The main developers have not been come here for several years, or I am mistaken. Where is the feedback with them, let me know if you know. It’s good if they at least sometimes read Bitcointalk, but I doubt it.
As a result, in the public field NEM is actually absent. That's why I began to duplicate the data on the supernode program here. Turn them out of Twitter is not an easy task. I did not immediately find the Cryptobeliever channel, I extracted the data for the first 2-3 months directly from the blockchain. I hold a few nodes, I need it and I am glad if I help someone.
If we speak in general again, Jaguar and Gimre still have resources and the possibility of management. They are cool programmers, but their style as they themselves said a ninja style. Therefore, they need a manager to promote projects, not only NEM, but also Symbol. If Hatchet failed to show effectiveness, only they (probably) can decide on the change of manager, as well as resume public communication. It's not too late.
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June 05, 2025, 06:29:39 AM |
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Not at all. I mean that at a short distance you can earn well on fluctuations in the course. Directly at this moment when I write the price rose by 26%.
As for the criticism of the bosses, I agree. Communications are destroyed. But nothing prevents interested users from communicating on this forum for example. Of course, communication is not equal to the community, but everyone can contribute to the information field. It is bad when a vacuum.
Here you have the reason why the price rises slightly after becoming almost worthless. Binance, Bithumb, Upbit, .... Look at XPX, if it continues like this, this is the future of XEM / XYM. Blaming and destroying the global community for your own mistakes says a lot about that person's ability and leadership." After further review of the virtual asset, Upbit determined that the reason for designating NEM as a trading caution item has not been resolved, and decided to terminate trading support in accordance with the digital asset caution item designation and trading support termination policy. " (Google translate) Notice Trade NEW Notice on Termination of Trading Support for NEM(XEM) (7/3 15:00) Created 2025.06.02 19:30 Share 안녕하세요. 가장 신뢰받는 글로벌 표준 디지털 자산 거래소 업비트입니다. 넴(XEM)의 거래지원 종료를 안내드립니다. 참고 : 넴(XEM) 거래 유의 종목 지정 안내 [거래지원 종료 관련 유의사항] 디지털 자산의 거래지원 종료는 업비트 디지털 자산 거래지원 종료 정책에 의거 합니다. : 업비트 디지털 자산 거래지원 종료 정책 해당 디지털 자산은 2025-07-03(목) 15:00 KST 에 거래지원을 종료합니다. 거래지원 종료 시, 마켓에서 거래지원 종료 이전에 요청한 주문(매수/매도)은 일괄 취소됩니다. 본 공지 이후, 거래지원 종료 예정인 디지털 자산에 대한 에어드랍, 월렛 업그레이드, 하드포크 등의 서비스는 지원하지 않을 예정입니다. [디지털 자산 거래지원 종료 안내] 넴(XEM) 대상 마켓 : XEM/KRW, XEM/BTC 거래지원 종료 예정일 : 2025-07-03(목) 15:00 KST 거래지원 종료 사유 업비트는 넴(XEM)에 대해서 가상자산 거래지원 모범사례에 따라 업비트는 넴(XEM)에 대해서 가상자산 거래지원 모범사례에 따라 가상자산 관련 중요사항에 대한 공시 여부 및 정도, 가상자산 보유자의 의사결정 참여 가능성, 사업의 실재성과 지속가능성, 가상자산 커뮤니티의 활성도 등을 종합적으로 고려했을 때 미진한 부분이 확인되어 2025년 5월 19일 넴 디지털 자산을 거래 유의 종목으로 지정하였습니다. 이후 가상자산에 대해서 추가적으로 면밀히 검토해 본 결과 업비트는 넴의 거래 유의 종목 지정 사유가 해소되지 않은 것으로 판단하고 디지털 자산 유의 종목 지정 및 거래지원 종료 정책에 따라 거래지원 종료를 결정하였습니다.해당 디지털 자산의 마켓 거래지원이 종료되더라도, 거래지원종료정책에 의거하여 거래지원 종료일로부터 30일간(~2025-08-04) 출금을 지원합니다. 위 디지털 자산의 출금이 필요하신 회원님들께서는 반드시 2025-08-04 전까지 출금을 진행해주시기 바랍니다. 거래지원 종료된 자산을 입금(또는 착오전송)한 경우, 입금 반영이 불가하며 출금 지원 기간이 종료된 이후 기술적인 사유로 (착오전송) 반환에 매우 오랜 시간이 소요될 수 있으니 반드시 주의하시길 바랍니다. 고객님의 안전한 거래를 위해 항상 최선을 다하는 업비트가 되겠습니다. 감사합니다. ※ 가상자산은 고위험 상품으로 투자금의 전부 또는 일부 손실을 초래할 수 있습니다. The lang of this site = ENG, isn't it.
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https://upbit.com/service_center/notice?id=5134On May 19, 2025, the Upbit South Korean crypto exchange included XEM in the list of cautious trade, and deposit services were temporarily suspended. UPBIT conducts a detailed check of the digital asset to determine whether to extend, lift or ultimately terminate trading support. I think, most likely the main real reason for the decision was the insufficient from the point of view of the exchange, the volume of bidding XEM. Weak hands are losing, strong hands take ) Its good time to buy? No, XEM/XYM simply no longer has a global community. This is exactly the point. This was destroyed by @hatchet out of self-interest. Certainly also one of the reasons why she will not be in Japan in 2025. The resentment here is also quite great. Besides, nobody knows what or even who is doing anything here. No community anywhere? Twitter, Telegram ?
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June 05, 2025, 07:53:49 PM |
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I think, most likely the main real reason for the decision was the insufficient from the point of view of the exchange, the volume of bidding XEM.
No, that was not exactly the reason. Have a look at Github, inform yourself on other sites. Then you will see how dead this project has become. A simple example ? Look at @XAVI, who is responsible for the documentation. He was gone for two years. During this time nobody took care of it. @Hatchat is all about control. That's why the community was destroyed and limited to Japan, which looks more like incest to me. There was a photo in the forum back then that @Hatchet posted. A parrot, wrapped in some clothes, sitting on a shopping trolley outside a supermarket so it couldn't fly away. This is exactly what happened with the XEM / XYM community. There were enough resources available to initiate a sensible development spread across many countries. These were not utilised. Is @gimre even a core dev anymore ? All information, in all official sites, but also CMC, etc., about this project has long been lost. about this project is long out of date and only partially correct. This is exactly the reason. Look at the last upgrade of NEM, how badly it was implemented. Why should someone starting with blockchain sign up with ‘X’ to get testnet coins to try out XEM/XYM ? These should be freely available! Why should someone register with "X" to take part in a dialogue? @Hatchet: " We are also considering making Twitter account verification mandatory. We know that most members of the community have Twitter accounts, but we would like to hear your views on this. " What a load of bollocks and this woman knows it. I remember well in 2021 when she complained that hardly anyone from the community was on ‘X’. Just as a simple reminder ... ‘permissionless blockchain’ ‘don't trust, verify’He should be. His 10 stakes are still there: https://explorer.nemtool.com/#/s_account?account=NDS3R3ZVAUCQGIU4GUG7L56II4IIXBGIMREL45YG
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@AntiNoise. You say the right things. I can add a little details relative to the resources for communication.
It all started a long time ago, without Hatchet, when one by one, forums were eliminated one by one. The first forum was completely destroyed, the second was transferred to the read only mode. These were excellent platforms for communication and coordination. Communication was switched to Telegram, which is suitable only for short notes and garbage. Everyone broke up through several channels, which expectedly degenerated to zero.
Subsequently, an even worst option, Twitter, was involved. This is a terrible platform. Everything crushed through individual accounts without feedback.
Channel in discord? Is it there? Maybe I am so stupid, but I could not get there, even after I overcame a heavy quest for the registration.
Bitcointalk was for some reason abandoned, but the story of NEM began with him. The main developers have not been come here for several years, or I am mistaken. Where is the feedback with them, let me know if you know. It’s good if they at least sometimes read Bitcointalk, but I doubt it.
As a result, in the public field NEM is actually absent. That's why I began to duplicate the data on the supernode program here. Turn them out of Twitter is not an easy task. I did not immediately find the Cryptobeliever channel, I extracted the data for the first 2-3 months directly from the blockchain. I hold a few nodes, I need it and I am glad if I help someone.
If we speak in general again, Jaguar and Gimre still have resources and the possibility of management. They are cool programmers, but their style as they themselves said a ninja style. Therefore, they need a manager to promote projects, not only NEM, but also Symbol. If Hatchet failed to show effectiveness, only they (probably) can decide on the change of manager, as well as resume public communication. It's not too late.
They may be here without logging in. It is 2 years since gimre and BloodyRookie have been here, and even 5 years from B's last post here  Accidentally 2 years for both of them ... and "2" also for utopianfuture "ninja" ... aa, that's why the first NEM site was https://bob.nem.ninja/. The Manager should have visions, and luck to choose visions which are possible to be implemented and which will work... and then "they will come".
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Why, o why? Always this happens ...
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NEMTUS non-profit organization monthly makes the online event of Lightning Talk, which discusses the latest NEM/SYMBOL technologies, options for using and blockchain potential. Dates and time of the event are published on twitter. LT event will be holding in the metaverse space Spatial. The streams can be found on YouTube.
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June 20, 2025, 05:32:20 AM Last edit: July 02, 2025, 03:36:42 AM by klonat |
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The next Symbol/NEM update " KASANE" was announced on September 27, 2024. Symbol 2.0, under the code name KASANE, is the project, the purpose of which to expand Symbol without prejudice to the basic design of the protocol, expand the design area to ensure crosschain compatibility and more complex products, as well as turn the functions and UX Symbol into a scaling and flexible platform. NEM is the first participant in the crosschain system based on Symbol (as I understand it). Links: one, two, three, four, five.
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July 04, 2025, 04:26:30 PM Last edit: July 05, 2025, 06:15:16 AM by AntiNoise |
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Questions about questions ... ?
Always a lot of hot air being spread by @Hatchet. Has there actually been a success story in the last four years that confirms @Hatchet's arguments?
Which people make up the current core team?
Why is a lot of information not updated ?
Why is this not openly communicated ?
Why are all the forums closed?
If this is not published or updated, is NEM/SYMBOL a private chain of @Hatchet who has no interest in community ?
The pressure to sell does not really come from the node operators. This is complete nonsense. But even back then this was a hypocritical argument to cut the node reward.
@Hatchet has simply turned XEM/XYM into a worthless pump and dump coin.
Even the bug chain now uses a different option. ......... But we know this from NEM times. The projects start here, but then decide to take a different route ....
what a shame
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July 05, 2025, 06:21:55 AM Last edit: July 06, 2025, 05:17:12 AM by klonat |
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Questions about questions ... ?
Always a lot of hot air being spread by @Hatchet. Has there actually been a success story in the last four years that confirms @Hatchet's arguments?
Which people make up the current core team?
Why is a lot of information not updated ?
Why is this not openly communicated ?
If this is not published or updated, is NEM/SYMBOL a fun chain of @Hatchet or just a private chain of @Hatchet who has no interest in community ?
The pressure to sell does not really come from the node operators. This is complete nonsense. But even back then this was a hypocritical argument to cut the node reward.
@Hatchet has simply turned XEM/XYM into a worthless pump and dump coin.
Even the bug chain now uses a different option. ......... But we know this from NEM times. The projects start here, but then decide to take a different route ....
what a shame
Nevertheless, we will try to catch the thread of the constructive. The problem is not in @Hatchet herself, but she has concentrated negative attention at himself. The problem is the lack of common project management and the absence of contact with the outside world. The project is cooked in a narrow circle of specialists, without releasing any regular information. This is a black hole with powerful energy, but not a single ray of light seeps out. A rare byte of information will go out. @Hatchet is a special case of the problem of communications of the developers team with the outside world. Perhaps she is a good programmer, but she obviously does not know how to engage in project management and does not want to; " Back into my hole to keep building." If she is a good specialist, and she can even be a good technical manager, then let her continue his productive participation. But as a common manager she is zero, and she does not know how to talk with people (I saw this on twitter). Here you have to be a bit politician. The manager's place is vacant. There should be a project manager or better several people with competence. Who should solve this issue? I think Jaguar and Gimre can solve the issue. Who except them? Information is absent. There must be a balance between technical and general management work. It may seem that the developer team neglects the community of users (in the broad sense, holders, including), but they are more than 100% busy with their own deals, this is a hard and giant work, and they have no time to be managers. They must delegate this part of the work to someone. If @Hatchet is fully engaged in development, then she can no longer have the functions of the manager. Do one thing but do it good. The project should have a manager. There are funds to pay for his work and this must be done. As a first step it is necessary to resume communication with the outside world. - Inform the general public about current work, roadmap, goals - To resume at least one available forum for the wide community without censorship and with minimal moderation (in the beginning there was an excellent forum, it is now obvious that it was the best; but then it was closed and another forum appeared, worse and clumsy, which was also closed for some reason), twitter discord telegram are unsuitable for this purpose. There should be one specific place of concentration of systematic information, where anyone freely, without artificial obstacles, could ask a question, get an answer, find information. Now scarce and limited information is scattered by bread crumbs throughout the Internet on little -known or inaccessible resources. - I would like to at least occasionally see the presence of core developers on Bitcointalk (they have accounts). Upbit said the same, although it was possible to do this in a different form. As a result, a great and flawlessly working NEM project received a vile blow in the form of delisting. However, upbit give a shit on everyone, they have their own hole. As it usually happens, for the safety of the population, there was a confiscation of population funds. The developers also suffered, having good steaks in reserve. All of the above applies the same way to NEM and Symbol.
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July 05, 2025, 07:46:27 PM Last edit: July 06, 2025, 02:14:17 PM by AntiNoise |
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“Nevertheless, we will try to catch the thread of the constructive.” I agree with you here. Would you develop a business idea on a blockchain that you have no information about the future or further development of ? Even if you have been familiar with this blockchain for a long time ? So many good projects have started worldwide with NEM. Why has no project really succeeded? Why did they migrate to other blockchains? Why were many successful startups from the community shut down ? Where you probably only make losses ? Japan and the rest of the world are very different. This problem already existed under NEM. Under Symbol it has taken on a much greater dimension. You've been around long enough to know that “tomorrow” was one of NEM's biggest problems. This was one of the reasons that led to Symbol. Under Symbol it is now “sometime” As @gimre wrote on twitter. For messages that are personal, you can use blockchain. End to end encrypted if that´s you want. This is what I meant when I said you can always get in touch with e.g. CB via the blockchain. The real problem is that nobody can trace who is involved in XEM/XYM at all. CB was gone too? How long ? Is there actually a pirate who is really working on NEM/SYBOL? And what is the justification for these pirates to pass off their node as a “community node” ? I would be ashamed. If you have the opportunity, you should go back a bit in @Hatchet's posts. Then you can read what she personally thinks about Bitcointalk. A Forum she can´t control.
- To resume at least one available forum for the wide community without censorship and with minimal moderation (in the beginning there was an excellent forum, it is now obvious that it was the best; but then it was closed and another forum appeared, worse and clumsy, which was also closed for some reason), twitter discord telegram are unsuitable for this purpose. - I would like to at least occasionally see the presence of core developers on Bitcointalk (they have accounts).
The forum was closed by @Hatchet. Due to a dubious poll with few participants on Twitter(X). Maybe you can still find this vote on X somewhere. Is @gimre still a core developer ? Github ? Look at @gimre's last comment here, you even repeated it . So much for that.
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There is this interesting sentence from @Hatchet (discord): " All entities we are working are being built to diverse business lines outside of NEM and SYMBOL to ensure they have a life beyond either protocol and bring value to the broader cryptocurrency space. Diversification is business 101, after all " It is right to have a broad base. First of all, they should have a value for NEM/SYMBOL. But this also shows that this person doesn't give a damn about NEM/SYMBOL. ----------------------- " There are no public addresses. Funds for NEM Group and all prior entities are held in exchanges. The owner of these funds is either NEM Foundation, NEM Trust or NEM Ventures or NEM Group. The answer is "it depends" Funds may have originated from XEM, but may have appreciated or depreciated since they were originally converted. No, the shareholders will not share rates nor transaction records publicly. Holders of XEM or XYM are not shareholders of any of the aforementioned company, and that information has no benefit (nor has it any negative in not sharing). We have no interest in creating the appearance that if someone holds the token, thy are shareholders. NEM and SYMBOL are one of the many initiatives that NEM Group worked on. As I have mentioned before multiple times, there funds are not legally considered "protocol funds". They never have been. "protocol funds" specifically means tokens that have been reserved for protocol operations, or funding of community initiatives to help the project grow, subject to discretion of th managing teams(us). So far, only NEMTUS and Opening Line have been funded(and provided viable products that would benefit the ecosystem - such as their educational technical books, or EXYM). W(as the core team)have personally funded some initiatives(such as Arcana, or Quest). Protocol funds sit in the respective NCHEST accounts on XEM or XYM. All entities we are working are being built to diverse business lines outside of NEM and SYMBOL to ensure they have a life beyond either protocol and bring value to the broader cryptocurrency space. ... Source: " https://note.com/the_symbol_news/n/n711c2d922836" " ----------------------- I still wonder today how this person was able to gain so much power over NEM/SYMBOL. In the past, this might have been called a hostile takeover. Why is the core team personally funding initiatives like Arcana or Quest that are supposed to benefit the community and the XEM/XYM ecosystem? There was more than enough wealth (2021) to finance this from public funds and make it available to the community (when the value of XEM/XYM had not yet crashed). Control, influence, etc., of a small group ? Develop your own private projects, taking advantage of the then large XEM/XYM community ? Did the core team knowingly and deliberately cause prices to plummet ? It seems like everyone else is just a puppet and the community is a bunch of sheep(especially in japan). Who are the current members of the Nem Foundation, NEM group etc.? Shouldn't these companies actually be dissolved(NEM Foundation, NEM Group, etc.) ? Wasn't this the big announcement from @Hatchet back then ? And the most important question ... Who are the shareholders?thx
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“Nevertheless, we will try to catch the thread of the constructive.” I agree with you here. Would you develop a business idea on a blockchain that you have no information about the future or further development of ? Even if you have been familiar with this blockchain for a long time ? So many good projects have started worldwide with NEM. Why has no project really succeeded? Why did they migrate to other blockchains? Why were many successful startups from the community shut down ? Where you probably only make losses ? Japan and the rest of the world are very different. This problem already existed under NEM. Under Symbol it has taken on a much greater dimension. You've been around long enough to know that “tomorrow” was one of NEM's biggest problems. This was one of the reasons that led to Symbol. Under Symbol it is now “sometime” As @gimre wrote on twitter. For messages that are personal, you can use blockchain. End to end encrypted if that´s you want. This is what I meant when I said you can always get in touch with e.g. CB via the blockchain. The real problem is that nobody can trace who is involved in XEM/XYM at all. CB was gone too? How long ? Is there actually a pirate who is really working on NEM/SYBOL? And what is the justification for these pirates to pass off their node as a “community node” ? I would be ashamed. If you have the opportunity, you should go back a bit in @Hatchet's posts. Then you can read what she personally thinks about Bitcointalk. A Forum she can´t control.
- To resume at least one available forum for the wide community without censorship and with minimal moderation (in the beginning there was an excellent forum, it is now obvious that it was the best; but then it was closed and another forum appeared, worse and clumsy, which was also closed for some reason), twitter discord telegram are unsuitable for this purpose. - I would like to at least occasionally see the presence of core developers on Bitcointalk (they have accounts).
The forum was closed by @Hatchet. Due to a dubious poll with few participants on Twitter(X). Maybe you can still find this vote on X somewhere. Is @gimre still a core developer ? Github ? Look at @gimre's last comment here, you even repeated it . So much for that. If some site / place is lost, why cannot be created another site by trusted people?
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July 06, 2025, 06:48:24 PM Last edit: July 06, 2025, 08:17:18 PM by jkoil |
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There is this interesting sentence from @Hatchet (discord): " All entities we are working are being built to diverse business lines outside of NEM and SYMBOL to ensure they have a life beyond either protocol and bring value to the broader cryptocurrency space. Diversification is business 101, after all " It is right to have a broad base. First of all, they should have a value for NEM/SYMBOL. But this also shows that this person doesn't give a damn about NEM/SYMBOL. ----------------------- " There are no public addresses. Funds for NEM Group and all prior entities are held in exchanges. The owner of these funds is either NEM Foundation, NEM Trust or NEM Ventures or NEM Group. The answer is "it depends" Funds may have originated from XEM, but may have appreciated or depreciated since they were originally converted. No, the shareholders will not share rates nor transaction records publicly. Holders of XEM or XYM are not shareholders of any of the aforementioned company, and that information has no benefit (nor has it any negative in not sharing). We have no interest in creating the appearance that if someone holds the token, thy are shareholders. NEM and SYMBOL are one of the many initiatives that NEM Group worked on. As I have mentioned before multiple times, there funds are not legally considered "protocol funds". They never have been. "protocol funds" specifically means tokens that have been reserved for protocol operations, or funding of community initiatives to help the project grow, subject to discretion of th managing teams(us). So far, only NEMTUS and Opening Line have been funded(and provided viable products that would benefit the ecosystem - such as their educational technical books, or EXYM). W(as the core team)have personally funded some initiatives(such as Arcana, or Quest). Protocol funds sit in the respective NCHEST accounts on XEM or XYM. All entities we are working are being built to diverse business lines outside of NEM and SYMBOL to ensure they have a life beyond either protocol and bring value to the broader cryptocurrency space. ... Source: " https://note.com/the_symbol_news/n/n711c2d922836" " ----------------------- I still wonder today how this person was able to gain so much power over NEM/SYMBOL. In the past, this might have been called a hostile takeover. Why is the core team personally funding initiatives like Arcana or Quest that are supposed to benefit the community and the XEM/XYM ecosystem? There was more than enough wealth (2021) to finance this from public funds and make it available to the community (when the value of XEM/XYM had not yet crashed). Control, influence, etc., of a small group ? Develop your own private projects, taking advantage of the then large XEM/XYM community ? Did the core team knowingly and deliberately cause prices to plummet ? It seems like everyone else is just a puppet and the community is a bunch of sheep(especially in japan). Who are the current members of the Nem Foundation, NEM group etc.? Shouldn't these companies actually be dissolved(NEM Foundation, NEM Group, etc.) ? Wasn't this the big announcement from @Hatchet back then ? And the most important question ... Who are the shareholders?thx Another question to be placed here: ___________________________________ when I have read the above text more carefully ....
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July 06, 2025, 07:27:06 PM |
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“Nevertheless, we will try to catch the thread of the constructive.” I agree with you here. Would you develop a business idea on a blockchain that you have no information about the future or further development of ? Even if you have been familiar with this blockchain for a long time ? So many good projects have started worldwide with NEM. Why has no project really succeeded? Why did they migrate to other blockchains? Why were many successful startups from the community shut down ? Where you probably only make losses ? Japan and the rest of the world are very different. This problem already existed under NEM. Under Symbol it has taken on a much greater dimension. You've been around long enough to know that “tomorrow” was one of NEM's biggest problems. This was one of the reasons that led to Symbol. Under Symbol it is now “sometime” As @gimre wrote on twitter. For messages that are personal, you can use blockchain. End to end encrypted if that´s you want. This is what I meant when I said you can always get in touch with e.g. CB via the blockchain. The real problem is that nobody can trace who is involved in XEM/XYM at all. CB was gone too? How long ? Is there actually a pirate who is really working on NEM/SYBOL? And what is the justification for these pirates to pass off their node as a “community node” ? I would be ashamed. If you have the opportunity, you should go back a bit in @Hatchet's posts. Then you can read what she personally thinks about Bitcointalk. A Forum she can´t control.
- To resume at least one available forum for the wide community without censorship and with minimal moderation (in the beginning there was an excellent forum, it is now obvious that it was the best; but then it was closed and another forum appeared, worse and clumsy, which was also closed for some reason), twitter discord telegram are unsuitable for this purpose. - I would like to at least occasionally see the presence of core developers on Bitcointalk (they have accounts).
The forum was closed by @Hatchet. Due to a dubious poll with few participants on Twitter(X). Maybe you can still find this vote on X somewhere. Is @gimre still a core developer ? Github ? Look at @gimre's last comment here, you even repeated it . So much for that. If some site / place is lost, why cannot be created another site by trusted people? Right at first glance. But still wrong. The trusted place is created or destroyed with the simultaneous development of the project. Which trusted person would you suggest?
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jkoil
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July 06, 2025, 08:16:09 PM |
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“Nevertheless, we will try to catch the thread of the constructive.” I agree with you here. Would you develop a business idea on a blockchain that you have no information about the future or further development of ? Even if you have been familiar with this blockchain for a long time ? So many good projects have started worldwide with NEM. Why has no project really succeeded? Why did they migrate to other blockchains? Why were many successful startups from the community shut down ? Where you probably only make losses ? Japan and the rest of the world are very different. This problem already existed under NEM. Under Symbol it has taken on a much greater dimension. You've been around long enough to know that “tomorrow” was one of NEM's biggest problems. This was one of the reasons that led to Symbol. Under Symbol it is now “sometime” As @gimre wrote on twitter. For messages that are personal, you can use blockchain. End to end encrypted if that´s you want. This is what I meant when I said you can always get in touch with e.g. CB via the blockchain. The real problem is that nobody can trace who is involved in XEM/XYM at all. CB was gone too? How long ? Is there actually a pirate who is really working on NEM/SYBOL? And what is the justification for these pirates to pass off their node as a “community node” ? I would be ashamed. If you have the opportunity, you should go back a bit in @Hatchet's posts. Then you can read what she personally thinks about Bitcointalk. A Forum she can´t control.
- To resume at least one available forum for the wide community without censorship and with minimal moderation (in the beginning there was an excellent forum, it is now obvious that it was the best; but then it was closed and another forum appeared, worse and clumsy, which was also closed for some reason), twitter discord telegram are unsuitable for this purpose. - I would like to at least occasionally see the presence of core developers on Bitcointalk (they have accounts).
The forum was closed by @Hatchet. Due to a dubious poll with few participants on Twitter(X). Maybe you can still find this vote on X somewhere. Is @gimre still a core developer ? Github ? Look at @gimre's last comment here, you even repeated it . So much for that. If some site / place is lost, why cannot be created another site by trusted people? Right at first glance. But still wrong. The trusted place is created or destroyed with the simultaneous development of the project. Which trusted person would you suggest? Unfortunately I do not know the NEM/Symbol's current people. I used to trust only to the Devs: "Any man who can code a working blockchain can’t be all bad.”
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