[CLOSED] Spondoolies-Tech SP30 - Specs: 6TH/s + 0.46W/GH

[TheJuice]

UP!

Last hours to order in our Group Buy : )

What do you mean, last hours? Do you expect us to order, without knowing the price?

You don't have to send coins at this point, we are all hoping for sub4k with free shipping/1mo hosting. Otherwise you may see a lot of people drop out here.

[TheJuice]

Excuse me FlashySan No problem
Just an honest deal and I do not want anyone to think that this is a fraud.

Volume discounts are a fact as you prove with your email from the sales team.


Gadi Glikberg said to me the same thing about 'group sales' in his first email (when we already had a superior order to 100 SP-30   ).

I hope to agree on the final price asap with SPTech.

165 units of SP-30 are 891-990 TH/s I would not want to change supplier at the last minute  

This group buy of 1petaHash will raise diff by 5%. Crazy that a petahash is such a small percentage now...

[merv77]

This group buy of 1petaHash will raise diff by 5%. Crazy that a petahash is such a small percentage now...

isn't the hash rate over 100 PH/s, so 1 PH/s wouldn't even raise it by 1%

[TheJuice]

This group buy of 1petaHash will raise diff by 5%. Crazy that a petahash is such a small percentage now...

isn't the hash rate over 100 PH/s, so 1 PH/s wouldn't even raise it by 1%

Oops, totally. I meant 0.5%. I figured by the time these were delivered we'd be around 200 PH. We are at 126PH.

[jonnybravo0311]

This group buy of 1petaHash will raise diff by 5%. Crazy that a petahash is such a small percentage now...

isn't the hash rate over 100 PH/s, so 1 PH/s wouldn't even raise it by 1%

Oops, totally. I meant 0.5%. I figured by the time these were delivered we'd be around 200 PH. We are at 126PH.

Silly little decimal points

I, too, am looking forward to seeing what kind of a discount bitmadrid is able to secure with Guy and the SP-Tech folks.  Here's to hoping it's under $4000.

[DevonMiner]

Just in case this works out Ok with a good price, stick me down for one.

Fingers xx'd.

[data55]

Well I've been in here since the beginning and I still don't know what the price is.. I know there was an email with speculation but i don't remember any solid pricing being discussed.

[hawkfish007]

Sent you a pm with my info for 1 unit.

[jonnybravo0311]

Well I've been in here since the beginning and I still don't know what the price is.. I know there was an email with speculation but i don't remember any solid pricing being discussed.

I've also been following this thread since the start.  Initially the post stated bitmadrid was aiming for a $4500 price point.  Obviously he's come down some since then, but there has been no definitive price point set yet.

[bitmadrid]

OMG  
last hours ... to reserve units in our buying group.

Firstly we have to know how many units we want to buy.
After that We can fix a final price agree with SPTech.

Price evolves according to this rough graph (aprox.):

[jimmothy]

OMG  
last hours ... to reserve units in our buying group.

Firstly we have to know how many units we want to buy.
After that We can fix a final price agree with SPEech.

Price evolves according to this rough graph (aprox.):

This is a joke right?

[Biodom]

OMG  
last hours ... to reserve units in our buying group.

Firstly we have to know how many units we want to buy.
After that We can fix a final price agree with SPTech.

Price evolves according to this rough graph (aprox.):

Seriously? perhaps, you don't know how to read a graph that says that at 175 machines the price is unknown (between zero and $2000).
This is what is on your graph.

[bitmadrid]

It is a rough approximation.

If SPTech want to sell at 1000$ we will buy 175 units.
If SPTech want to sell at 1500$ we will buy 175 units.
If SPTech want to sell at 2000$ we will buy 175 units.
But...if SPTech want to sell at 4500$ we will buy 0 units aprox, because no ROI.


Law of supply and demand.

I announced "I hope to set the final price on July 15 based on the difficulty of the moment.."
but many people want to give me his/her opinion on the price by PM.  

I know the price we want to pay (the minimum).
SPTEch know the price you want to sell (the maximum).

If negotiation is not over I can not roll the dice and give a price. Please keep patience, I said 15th July.

[rodeoclownicp]

so i am not in yet, what do i need to do? wait for anouncement

[rodeoclownicp]

how do i reserve?

[bitmadrid]

Hi  rodeoclownicp

[...]
If you're really interested in buying PM me with the followings:
- Your nick;
- Number of units;
- Escrow system: Yes/Not/Don't mind
- your e-mail;
- transaction ID; [WAIT please]
- your preffered payment method(Bitcoins, Dollars or Euros); [WAIT please]

I am assigning a number to each requested unit to help to arrange delivery of SPTech.
[...]

Seriously? perhaps, you don't know how to read a graph that says that at 175 machines the price is unknown (between zero and $2000).
This is what is on your graph.

Enlighten me

[rodeoclownicp]

Hi  rodeoclownicp

[...]
If you're really interested in buying PM me with the followings:
- Your nick;
- Number of units;
- Escrow system: Yes/Not/Don't mind
- your e-mail;
- transaction ID; [WAIT please]
- your preffered payment method(Bitcoins, Dollars or Euros); [WAIT please]

I am assigning a number to each requested unit to help to arrange delivery of SPTech.
[...]

Seriously? perhaps, you don't know how to read a graph that says that at 175 machines the price is unknown (between zero and $2000).
This is what is on your graph.

Enlighten me

ok will do tonight is that ok

[jimmothy]

It is a rough approximation.

If SPTech want to sell at 1000$ we will buy 175 units.
If SPTech want to sell at 1500$ we will buy 175 units.
If SPTech want to sell at 2000$ we will buy 175 units.
But...if SPTech want to sell at 4500$ we will buy 0 units aprox, because no ROI.


Law of supply and demand.

I announced "I hope to set the final price on July 15 based on the difficulty of the moment.."
but many people want to give me his/her opinion on the price by PM.  

I know the price we want to pay (the minimum).
SPTEch know the price you want to sell (the maximum).

If negotiation is not over I can not roll the dice and give a price. Please keep patience, I said 15th July.

This makes absolutely no sense.

So basically you are going to exclude people randomly according to what you consider a "good deal"?

Will you be trashing the entire "group buy" when the final price ends up more than $3800/sp30?

Your estimations are so far from reality why should you decide how many units the group buys? (production costs of an sp30 are probably more than $2000)

Anyways if you do manage to negotiate the price down to $0 per sp30 count me in for 200.

[psahx]

I will buy 30 units, if you negotiate $1000 for SP30.

I am serious, will PM you. If anything changes, I keep the right to refuse my reservation.

[bitmadrid]

This makes absolutely no sense.

So basically you are going to exclude people randomly according to what you consider a "good deal"?

Will you be trashing the entire "group buy" when the final price ends up more than $3800/sp30?

Your estimations are so far from reality why should you decide how many units the group buys? (production costs of an sp30 are probably more than $2000)

Anyways if you do manage to negotiate the price down to $0 per sp30 count me in for 200.

Randomly? OMG...
Have you really thought about that?
Or I have not explained well, or you have misunderstood me.

This is worse than explain that is 'capitalism' in Venezuela...

The group decides (not only I) how many units to buy; based on strong criteria, such as Difficulty or some than I'll explain.

Many buyers have told me (invented numbers for this example):
 "if the value is 5000$ I want 1 unit.
if the value is  2500$ I want 2.
if the value is 1000$ I want 5."

Someone has to spend around 5k, but fixed costs are diferente (delivery cost per unit, VAT/taxes, etc).

Due to the amount to units is directly proportional to the final price.

Well, and now value Vs Price:
The final price (value) of any miner is not define by the production cost of the product. The final price (value)  of SP-30 is due to the ROI and  profitability.

When a miner is not profitable, it stops producing. But the production cost is the same.
Price is the money that you pay for something (albeit junk).
Value is what I'm willing to pay for it (considering the ROI and profiability).

The value per unit is what I am negotiating.

I hope I explained it right this time : )