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[Mike18feb]

I know the name, but I don't see how you can link it to the Mexican one? Yes, it's suspect, but more people share the same name

[dekodoge]

I know the name, but I don't see how you can link it to the Mexican one? Yes, it's suspect, but more people share the same name

https://www.duedil.com/company/08935510/btc-cloud-services-ltd/people

note how it lists him with a flag as mexican, why do you think this is?

Read MY other POSTS don't be deluded, far to many co-incidences here dont you think?

I'm sure they will be back to explain this all away.

[Mike18feb]

No need to get angry. Just asking where you have your info from as that was my missing link. So, yeah, too many coincidences, scales dropping the other way again

[dekodoge]

I'm not angry :

[ronskii]

So is this another scam?

If whois info points to a previous scam there is no way this is legit.

[Mike18feb]

Actually, the whois info simply points to a name, Gabriel Kleiman, and according to the domain info he's registered onto a rented address in London
So, Gabriel Kleiman is one of the bitcoinservices.com people.
dekodoge found a link where another person of the company is named, Esteban Amador Soto Martinez, both Mexican
And that Esteban person is one of the very suspicious characters in the bitcoincloudhashing.com scam, here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=414314.40

I'm not angry :

No, indeed. I misread, sorry

[btccloudservices]

dekodoge that’s a lot of information you gathered.

I’ll give you some more information and share you a little bit of what I gathered from you  today.

I’m Gabriel Kleiman, if you google my name there are about 15,000 results. I’m not Mexican nor I sell pizzas.

I started mining back in 2011, and to be honest I have always been secretive about my operations and I’m not going to share them with you.

In february I met Esteban, a web designer,   in a  London bar, we started to talk about Bitcoin and he told me he could build our website. He showed me his portfolio and I saw other Bitcoin websites and I agree to hire him, some of these sites later turned out to be scams. I realized I didn’t want to work with this guy. But he did’t want to give me my domain back, he forced me into giving him money to recover it.  Later I found out that  he registered  my business under his name. As I write the legal mess is still going on. This guy scammed me too in other ways, that I won’t discuss as there is a legal investigation going on. Once I find this fucker I’ll share this information with other victims.

We have nothing to hide  and you connected  your “dots” just by googling this page https://support.bitcoincloudservices.com/hc/en-us/articles/202363764-Is-your-company-legit-


If we  were trying to hide something probably I wouldn’t post this information. Esteban’s name is still present in the company registration, because some names, like shareholders, can’t be changed until the next tax return date.  


About your Facebook comment, if paying for Facebook ads is “buying a load of likes from india”. I won’t deny it and I’ll tell you that I’ve did. I’ve invested part of our marketing budget in social media, paying for ads and boosting our page’s publications. If Bitcoin is big in India and you didn’t know it,  a little bit of positive research will tell you that Bitcoin is big in emerging markets.

People like you are the ones to blame that Bitcoin became a big witch hunt. But I now start to understand why you are doing what you are doing

So here is the information I’ve gathered from you, during my silence today.

I honestly believe

lunamine
ronskii
dekodoge

are the same person.

dekodoge your username is older, but around when lunamine went online you came out of the silence, and suddenly our topic, lunamine  and your little investigative report was your main interest. weird!

ronskii you pretty much came to light when lunamine showed up. you’ve been lunemine’s bigger supporter (if not the only one) and questioned everything including pbmining’s operations but never lunamine, I find this a little bit odd. and also our topic got your attention today. when if you do the math you’ll realize that they give you the lowest price but you have to pay for electricity.  I see your posting pattern and you are praising Lunamine most of the time.


It was funny to see a couple of hours ago how both ronskii dekodoge activity was going from this topic to lunamine’s but what really caught my attention was that I never saw them online at the same time. although the 3  have set the same local time.  this probably doesn’t mean anything but it’s good start to connect your “dots”. Probably after I bring  this up these patterns will change, we’ll see.

In general these 3 posting patters make sense.

One thing I tell you, you’ll get more focusing in your customers than in your competitors, and investing a little bit in social media won’t hurt  you either.

Like we mentioned in a previous post we are upgrading our referral program, and it’ll be better than our competitors, so probably there will be some tears and more of your investigative reports.

So bring it on!


We wish you the best, and we’ll focus in our mining and our customers.

[btccloudservices]

 And one more thing   

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I would love to see yours.

[btccloudservices]

I'm not angry :

nice timing!

[vn2359]

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[lunamine]

Hello,

We and most other serious companies don't go public saying bad assumptions about competitors, we expect you to do the same.  

Thank you and good luck!

[btccloudservices]

Hello,

We and most other serious companies don't go public saying bad assumptions about competitors, we expect you to do the same.  

Thank you and good luck!

Stick to 1 username, please.

[lunamine]

Okay, we will.

Serious question: how long do your contracts last? Will it mine for 5 years nonstop?

[Mike18feb]

And one more thing   

Our last payout

...
1Hp5598KtFdVBh9tsXf7d6zVu4i1znjz9a 0.00186053 BTC
...

And that's mine, so that list apparently works out fine


As for the business, the information shown on the "Is your company legit?" page is the actual information as can be seen at the Companies House in the UK, so it is a legal business in that sense.


I just wonder about a few things

... I realized I didn’t want to work with this guy. But he did’t want to give me my domain back, he forced me into giving him money to recover it. ...

Means you had left the registration to him entirely?! And your business as well:

Later I found out that  he registered  my business under his name. As I write the legal mess is still going on.

Actually, how far is this process? I can see on the Companies House pages that there's been changes to director's and secretary's but the only name I see is Esteban. Furthermore, the secretary's details  changed twice, in April and in June, and both times Esteban is mentioned. I cannot see the details as that would require me to cough up some pounds and I've invested all my spare change in mining

Esteban’s name is still present in the company registration, because some names, like shareholders, can’t be changed until the next tax return date. 

And when do you think you'll be able to get rid of him? When is that tax return date? And doesn't that need his cooperation?

In february I met Esteban, a web designer,   in a  London bar, we started to talk about Bitcoin and he told me he could build our website. He showed me his portfolio and I saw other Bitcoin websites and I agree to hire him, some of these sites later turned out to be scams. I realized I didn’t want to work with this guy.

So.... Who's doing the technical stuff of your website now then? You're busy on all sorts of changes, but you don't have the skills to pull this off. Doesn't mean you know nothing, but most websites dealing with coins in some way are targets for hackers and crackers and you better have excellent knowledge and skills around to deal with those sort of things

This guy scammed me too in other ways, that I won’t discuss as there is a legal investigation going on. Once I find this fucker I’ll share this information with other victims.

From one scammed person to another, the chances of any kind of success are slim, and it takes a looooong time to get to that result. Of course I don't know how much money is involved. I've lost like 10,000 GBP along the way, and I've waved them bye bye. Though honestly, I wish I had it now though.


And lastly, what nasty stuff did you find out about me? 

[dekodoge]

Gabriel,

Try again, I'm not lunamine or anyone else. OK so you may not be a pizza man, which is a shame as I love pizza.

So Esteban conned you. How convienent. I was scammed to I can't be a scammer " thats in 101 guide to scamming I'm sure"

All you are is a calculated ponzi scheme right until the point you vanish.

People like you are the ones to blame that Bitcoin became a big witch hunt.

No Gabriel it's people like you who are to blame.

[dekodoge]

Who is John Watt?

[s1lverbox]

CN = www.bitcoincloudservices.com
O = BTC Cloud Services LTD
L = London
C = GB
PostalCode = E1W 1AW
STREET = 46-48 EAST SMITHFIELD
STREET = TOWER BRIDGE BUSINESS CENTRE SUITE 313

[/quote]


virtual office.  again same shit. 9 out of 10 this is sign of scam.

[vn2359]

wow,
Maybe ... waiting for his actual actions...

[Mike18feb]

The virtual office has already been mentioned.

Anyway, what I understand from Gabriel is that greater transparency is one of the goals. Posting TXID's is a good step, and I hope more is coming. Perhaps Gabriel can shed some light on that. Such a thing would be more then can be said of some other competitors out there.
Also, since 9 out of 10 times is mentioned, that also suggests you should keep an open mind to the 1 out of 10 times

[dekodoge]

I'm crunching numbers.

Seems that

https://blockchain.info/address/1NdoiXL5kaxedEAyQ1S629v93uxvaNd2zG from above list.


Must have "purchased" about 46TH/s !!!! to earn about 1.3755 BTC/DAY

Contract would have cost 133BTC approx or around 80K USD.

NOTE THIS IS NOT MY ACCOUNT SO DON'T PM ME AND BEG.