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June 19, 2014, 07:59:01 AM
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if i make a mistake, Please correct it in this thread,i will then correct it ASAP.  nobody know everything.

it's just a quick start for Anon coin. you can add more in this table.

thank you very much.


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June 19, 2014, 08:01:51 AM
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Thanks for your Support.
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June 19, 2014, 08:39:18 AM
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hey, it is an awesome job. well done. I am sure it is going to be hot topic here.  want to take my advice? why don't u range those coin and stir up the controversial discussion. it is gonna be hot ......   
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June 19, 2014, 08:43:15 AM
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hey, it is an awesome job. well done. I am sure it is going to be hot topic here.  want to take my advice? why don't u range those coin and stir up the controversial discussion. it is gonna be hot ......    

welcome serious discussion on Anon Technology, maybe i also make some mistakes on that table, Please correct me.

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June 19, 2014, 09:20:24 AM
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June 19, 2014, 10:22:02 AM
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 Grin

Just IMHO of course.

Apart from the fact that it should be secure and work well I think the breakthrough coin will come from two main strengths; New code and name.

I don't believe any new coin that is forked from Bitcoin will challange bitcoin. The main reason being that most devs will just tinker around the edges - as has happened to date.
A new hashing protocol here, a voting system there - it's basically Bitcoin. If a coin is developed from scratch then I believe it will have a chance. The devs can implement truly new protocols and concepts, react very quickly to problems or issues and development of new forms of infrastructure will be quicker and easier.

As for the name - I believe that any coin using the term Dark, Cloak or anonymous will not get mainstream engagement or approval. Max Keiser might like it but your local coach company or fiat gateway provider will not!  Lips sealed Too many connotations involving very nasty people with these kind of terms.

Really, this leaves the Cryptonote coins and any future coin based on Zerocash.

Whilst zerocash is interesting and is 'proper' academic research ironically this may be it's Achilles heel. Like many people here I would definitely be interested in a zerocash coin but there is always the possibility that the researchers will be 'leaned on' by TPTB to give it up.

So that leaves the Cryptonotes. Past history tells us that the first coin takes it all - that would indicate Bytecoin as the ultimate replacement for Bitcoin. In it's favor is the media friendly name, the original code, present take up and the large total supply. I could be wrong but if I had to name a coin that will overtake Bitcoin at some point it would have to be Bytecoin.  Cheesy


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June 19, 2014, 10:39:44 AM
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Didn't Silkcoin say they were 70% in on implementing zerocoin?
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June 19, 2014, 10:48:51 AM
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Past history tells us that the first coin takes it all

Absolutely false. Please take a look at tenebrix.
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June 19, 2014, 11:04:39 AM
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Past history tells us that the first coin takes it all

Absolutely false. Please take a look at tenebrix.

I was talking about a coin challenging and surpassing the $Cap and take-up of Bitcoin.  Roll Eyes

 


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June 19, 2014, 11:05:26 AM
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Great idea. Thank you
I think that it is also good to have the price multiplied by the total number of coins to be released on any table.

There are some more possible coins I know of .

1.Cinni 2. Voot. 3. Kore. 4 Boolberry. 5 Qcn
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June 19, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
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Past history tells us that the first coin takes it all

Absolutely false. Please take a look at tenebrix.

I was talking about a coin challenging and surpassing the $Cap and take-up of Bitcoin.  Roll Eyes

 

Nonetheless, tenebrix does not have much of a market cap.

For BCN to have a marketcap that will surpass bitcoin today, it would need to trade at a value of .00008279 satoshi.

This is a 827.9x its current value today.
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June 19, 2014, 11:57:06 AM
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vootcoin should be top5 in that list.
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June 19, 2014, 12:41:35 PM
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thanks for all the feedback, will add more coins later.
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June 19, 2014, 01:40:24 PM
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Mammothcoin has pending anon and is very cheap
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June 19, 2014, 01:56:31 PM
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if i make a mistake, Please correct it in this thread,i will then correct it ASAP.  nobody know everything.

it's just a quick start for Anon coin. you can add more in this table.

thank you very much.


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Where did you get this table? Did you make it just for this post or is it published in the context of other article?
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June 19, 2014, 03:02:35 PM
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if i make a mistake, Please correct it in this thread,i will then correct it ASAP.  nobody know everything.

it's just a quick start for Anon coin. you can add more in this table.

thank you very much.




Where did you get this table? Did you make it just for this post or is it published in the context of other article?

All Summary by my self.
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June 19, 2014, 03:31:41 PM
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Nice table. Although you should read up about the recent news regarding DRK. It's being worked on and a fork will be released tomorrow for the masternodes.

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June 19, 2014, 04:07:28 PM
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With regards to Monero:

Mayers-Lo-Chau no go theorem

MLC's no-go theorem is a problem, not for Monero, for ALL hash function based proof-of-work related systems. That having been said, there is so much work that has been done since the initial publication that it is a non-issue for quantum cryptography. Specifically, and for a light introduction to some of the work, it is best to take a glance at Chi-Yee Cheung's Quantum Teleportation and Bit Commitment slides from 2009. This section in particular:

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Question: Does the “no-go theorem” cover all possible cases?

Note that QBC has a definite objective, but the corresponding procedure is not precisely defined.

There are infinitely many ways to do QBC.

So how could one be sure the no-go result is universally valid?

Make sure to list no-go theorems as a problem for every single coin in your list. Thankfully, they're not much of a concern until we live in Star Trek:)



One-way function exist?

I don't understand what this means - can you elaborate?

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June 19, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
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You should add to the Weakness side of DRK that the Total amount got degreased after lunch and it had an heavy instamine from the devs which is about 40% of the current supply.

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June 19, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
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One other note - I'm not sure if you have a solid grounding mathematics or cryptography, but you should take a read of our ongoing project to peer-review and annotate the CryptoNote whitepaper (it has had no formal peer review that anyone is aware of). The two primary peer reviewers are PhD-holding mathematicians and cryptographers. You can find it here: http://monero.cc/downloads/whitepaper_annotated.pdf

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