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January 11, 2015, 04:18:32 PM
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Aero Community,


Coin Swap Notice

Coin Swaps are now over.

I will clear what reamining swap requests I have left on my books (which were made upto this point) but I cannot accept anymore requests for coin swaps.

Regarding users who have been buying from the Cryptsy books and making another coin-swap request for the second time, third time and even Forth time coin swap requests,
I'm sorry but this just isnt going to happen!

I cannot be the go between arbitrage man for cheap AERO > AM swaps via the back doors.

I am seeking Cryptsy's support for closing down the AERO market and switching to AM market in its place asap!

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Sorry, but this is a little bit of horseshit Dev, Its on you to produce a platform.

Yes, i totally agree, I make no excuses nor did I attempt to!  I was merely making the point that I doubt very much the AM market will be delisted due to lack of 0.2btc 7 day average cant be meet by the 16th

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I, and many others promoted the shit out of Aero, and were gaining investors, and then you dropped a surprise coin swap on us...

I know how much work you have put into this Mitch and the work of the other guys behind this. This community (Our community) is one of the finest I have seen, I really mean that !!
Regarding the Swap This was a nasty by-product of poor decisions made by myself during the IPO this was not how I planned things to happen.

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Now, we can't promote a coin that hasn't released a feature in 4 months, and had a coinswap.

I disagree, however i see your jobs have been made a lot harder.

The fact we have had a successful coin-swap is a PR story no?

Features come and they go, like a fad. I am aiming for persistent features which actually have some real world usage!

The fact Aero holders now have x 0.58333333 more coins than the did prior to swap that's a story?
 
One of the most important factors to a successful coin/project is the community aspect.. We have that! That in itself is a huge marketing angle.

But, the story about
how the Developer listened to the AERO community better judgement and survived a failed IPO.
How AM was born from the AERO ashes after a successful coin swap process.. These are "community" marketing angles
How the developer managed to carry out multiple manual coin-swaps on top of his normal workload.. now thats a story
How Community member now have a say on how their community fund is used to better a project.. that's a angle..
How the AeroME Platform is being put together "live" in the real worlds.. that's a story..
How Bittrex exchange team and the dev helped to execute a coin-swap and helped to keep the AM network "up" and running over Xmas period.. in the face of multiple problems now that's a story..
How the developer maintained the network when the worlds was falling apart around him.. now that's a story..
How AERO/AM is in the process of having a blog post of one of the most promising Alts for 2015 in the making.. now thats a story!

So, there is plenty to be creative about purely in news terms around this swap process alone!

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Its impossible without coming off like a scam. Im all in to promote once the release happens, but you've handcuffed the community.

How so? Just reporting alone on the information surrounding the swap is promotion.. Admittedly not the news people want to read or particularly hear about.
But this is the thing about PR.. there should be a constant stream/barrage of news/info. 

How have I "handcuffed" the community?

Please Don't fixate on just one aspect of this project this is a multifaceted project. The platform is one part.. what about the coin itself..?
BUT what about the platform.. ?
Any info about the open nature of the platform, how "freelance" developers will be able to make their own custom modlues for the platform.
How it will create a whole plug-in/add-on/extension ecosystem built up around the platform itself?

I'm not knocking you here, definitly not so.. What im saying is that perhaps instead of fixating on the actual release date maybe its time to start hyping on stuff like this.
Its far from me to tell you how to do your thing, im just spit balling here as I leave that kind of "creative" thinking up to you guys, as your far better than me at this kind of thing than me and is also one of the things you guys do best.

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You gotta come up big, thats just apart of being a developer. Its a pretty damn good community in my opinion, and we're hanging in there... but you can't expect endless funds with no results.


I intend to fulfill my promises and deliver on this project (and others avenues outlined in some of my previous posts), regardless of external factors. I may have been quiet on the release front for 4 months but then again I havent.. New coin/Coinswap/manual coinswap/ deploying live platform.!!!!!  which can look contradictory to whats actual being put out there so 4 months more like 5 weeks. (Dec 1st 2014)

Yes, Like i said to, we have a bloody excellent community which is why I will not let you down. I cant say thank you enough for sticking in there.

Quote from: mitchr4
... but you can't expect endless funds with no results.

Endless funds.. do you mean endless funds to support the coin price or endless funds for development work?
I assume for AM price stabilization, as if you meant "endless funds" for dev work I have no intentions nor, expect endless funds.
I am extremely grateful and humbled at the 600k AM dev fund to wit has not 1 AM has been touched Out of the possible 1Mil AM kindly offered by the community.

£260 has come from my own pocket just the other day plus with another £110-150 costs expected later this week when the Mongo DB VPS  and the Heruku VPS come online.
This is what i meant when i said this is going to happen like it or not! Im to far committed to back down nor would I do such a thing, we all come to far!   

Quote from: mitchr4
It also doesn't help when you give no time frame... I understand why you do that, but saying we need to hold volume when there is no time frame is an issue. A week vs months makes a difference. Just give us a range...

I will not give time frame. As i stated countless times before. I am glad you also can see why i dont give dates not just out of price fairness but truth be told the sheer complexity of this project timelines are easily missed and I DO NOT want to alienate the community even further towards myself due to missing a timeline.

This is the exact reason why I don't expect anyone to hold vol. but more so on what you believe in me and also in the project as a whole!
But the point I was trying to make was simply..

I believe we have enough between us and what it takes to make sure the market can be kept up and not delisted. 0.2 btc 7-day average is not that much.

BTW We are not talking months away here.. Would I have spent that cash just the other day if i thought it were months down the line until its ready??
 
Professional servers,  Enterprise hosting infrastructure doesn't come cheap (not for my/our requirements anyway!) and is paid on a per monthly basis however economy of scales means paying bi-annually makes for the best cost Vs. return on the packages.. 

So, based on that info I think that you can work out a rough time line from that statement alone. If i thought it was months away I would have waited another month (or longer) before paying for the service rental.
--We are so very close and now that I have the majority of manual coin swaps done I can focus on getting this project deployed.!

Believe me I understand and can see how this proves a difficulty proposition for you and others involved.

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Ive got 2 btc on trex right now holding the price at 1k . Thats the best I can do on a promise. Its a hard project to deliver even with your skill set.

Mitch, it should go without saying by now but i will say it again.. Thank you for you time, dedication, energy and support..
We have had our chats in the past, I think you have a fairly good idea of what i can and cant do very well.. lol, you know im a shit gfx guy but code.. Coding is what i do, its what i live and breath.
I will pull it off!

I appreciate for comments mitch, Please Stick in there.

Respectfully,
majika


I have began build up a Advertisement budget most of which were freebies from the hosting packages and services which i purchased.
I will lease with the community to discuss where this will be best spent
So, when the time is right I will "activate" these freebies but I will also start to set aside some additional funds for a regular advertisement budget

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January 11, 2015, 08:10:40 PM
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I came off harsh yesterday, and I know you're working hard, so I apologize, but you have to understand that until you provide results the coin-sawap doesn't necessarily look good.

All those promotional points you listed will work fine upon release, but right now there are way too many questions of legitimacy and plausibility. Every decently seasoned investor in altcoins understands that there  are a shit load of scams...

Could I make a very legitimate argument that you are not a scam dev? yes, but it would take some time.  But on top of that, you're working on one largest projects I've seen in the alt space, and from my understanding you're doing it pretty much alone. Its a massive undertaking, and if I hadn't been here since day one then I would have a difficult time believing that you could pull it off. New investors don't stick around either...like they may wait a couple days, but if the price drops at all they leave quickly...

I mean if you pull this off, and release a platform... its a story for the ages. Its Altcoin legend and lore... No other coin could survive what Aero/AM has been through....These past 4 months you and the holders have been through a hellfire, and were all still here.

I think we would prove to everyone that this is a fair coin that is clean from every single angle...and we have an elite dev. Possibly the best Dev in Alts, because you pulled this shit out of a nose dive and delivered. Nobody could accuse Aero of any wrong doing, and I truly believe wed see 20k + per coin. Its an easy sell with the platform and the features, and the proven fact that nothing about aero is a scam...Its a coin that ran the gauntlet of multiple pump and dumps and a coinswap... And I know you're not done at AeroME. I know you've got some crazy ideas that would make some major advancements in the space.

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January 12, 2015, 02:03:00 PM
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Aero Community

FINAL SWAP IS NOW OVER

PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY MORE COINS.


Thank You

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January 12, 2015, 02:28:37 PM
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Aero Community

FINAL SWAP IS NOW OVER

PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY MORE COINS.


Thank You

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Ok now no need to send the coins.

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January 12, 2015, 02:32:39 PM
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Aero Community

FINAL SWAP IS NOW OVER

PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY MORE COINS.


Thank You

Majika




Ok now no need to send the coins.

good luck trying to get swapped lol

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January 12, 2015, 03:07:12 PM
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Swap done smoothly, thanks dev !



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January 12, 2015, 07:44:37 PM
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Professional servers,  Enterprise hosting infrastructure doesn't come cheap (not for my/our requirements anyway!) and is paid on a per monthly basis however economy of scales means paying bi-annually makes for the best cost Vs. return on the packages.. 

So, based on that info I think that you can work out a rough time line from that statement alone. If i thought it was months away I would have waited another month (or longer) before paying for the service rental.
--We are so very close and now that I have the majority of manual coin swaps done I can focus on getting this project deployed.!

Dev,

Hopefully my statement does not sound dramatic or offending.

1) Terms like Professional servers and Enterprise hosting infrastructure are not the same as they used to be 10 years ago. You don't need dedicated server for 1K in USD per month. You don't need to pay for hosting time but for hosting resources like CPU, RAM, IO, etc. Some instances, like the AWS micro, are free for the first year. Others are cheaper than a box of cigarettes. It's more or less "resource-based" economy with regard to the cloud hosting. But you most probably know this better than me.

2) Currently you are developing in testing / staging mode, right? This environment does not require special resources unless you are competing with NASA. The env that requires resources is the production one, but that's not the case.

Then WTF are these expenses you are talking about?   
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January 12, 2015, 08:56:17 PM
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Hello

I can be a new investor, but I have few questions.

How many coins are out there?  7M is writen in the OP. But it is old info, right?
I saw some coinswap. Dev has 600k, right? So there is some premine, right?
What about that swap thing? How many coins were swaped and how many were not? (what about uswaped coins, were they destroyed?)
Is there any progress on development?

This is big questionmark from my point of view.
C´mon, bring some transparency. It is not so hard.

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January 12, 2015, 09:14:37 PM
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Hello

I can be a new investor, but I have few questions.

How many coins are out there?  7M is writen in the OP. But it is old info, right?
I saw some coinswap. Dev has 600k, right? So there is some premine, right?
What about that swap thing? How many coins were swaped and how many were not? (what about uswaped coins, were they destroyed?)
Is there any progress on development?

This is big questionmark from my point of view.
C´mon, bring some transparency. It is not so hard.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=660938.msg10026341#msg10026341

And he should give a legitimate update on progress this week...This project is 100% based on the dev. We all trust him, but I know that isnt exactly appealing to new investors. Were all waiting on the release, and if it does happen then I really believe that were in for quite a ride with the price. Im a long term holder since the beginning, and ive put my effort and faith into Aero, because I think it has potential...but im not going to try to sell you. Its always a gamble with alt coins.

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January 12, 2015, 09:34:15 PM
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Hello

I can be a new investor, but I have few questions.

How many coins are out there?  7M is writen in the OP. But it is old info, right?
I saw some coinswap. Dev has 600k, right? So there is some premine, right?
What about that swap thing? How many coins were swaped and how many were not? (what about uswaped coins, were they destroyed?)
Is there any progress on development?

This is big questionmark from my point of view.
C´mon, bring some transparency. It is not so hard.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=660938.msg10026341#msg10026341

And he should give a legitimate update on progress this week...This project is 100% based on the dev. We all trust him, but I know that isnt exactly appealing to new investors. Were all waiting on the release, and if it does happen then I really believe that were in for quite a ride with the price. Im a long term holder since the beginning, and ive put my effort and faith into Aero, because I think it has potential...but im not going to try to sell you. Its always a gamble with alt coins.

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I think the ANN needs to be updated, maybe a new thread even. I believe KL (an active aero holder) made some good progress on that to help. Lots of marketing steps like that will require fleshed out details and specifics of the upcoming platform release. Majika (the dev) has kept that intel incredibly close to his chest (and for good reason, we've already seen other coins copy the Aero whitepaper to sell the idea in an IPO). Issue is, that makes it hard to do and marketing / marketing prep. The second Majika releases something we can go all out on marketing the coin and make it extremely appealing. Honestly, if Majika does pull through, this could be looked back on as one of the better times to grab some coins.
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January 12, 2015, 09:37:26 PM
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Is there a block explorer up yet?

Also have the addresses for the dev portion and community fund been made public?


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January 12, 2015, 10:48:49 PM
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Professional servers,  Enterprise hosting infrastructure doesn't come cheap (not for my/our requirements anyway!) and is paid on a per monthly basis however economy of scales means paying bi-annually makes for the best cost Vs. return on the packages.. 

So, based on that info I think that you can work out a rough time line from that statement alone. If i thought it was months away I would have waited another month (or longer) before paying for the service rental.
--We are so very close and now that I have the majority of manual coin swaps done I can focus on getting this project deployed.!

Dev,

Hopefully my statement does not sound dramatic or offending.

1) Terms like Professional servers and Enterprise hosting infrastructure are not the same as they used to be 10 years ago. You don't need dedicated server for 1K in USD per month. You don't need to pay for hosting time but for hosting resources like CPU, RAM, IO, etc. Some instances, like the AWS micro, are free for the first year. Others are cheaper than a box of cigarettes. It's more or less "resource-based" economy with regard to the cloud hosting. But you most probably know this better than me.

2) Currently you are developing in testing / staging mode, right? This environment does not require special resources unless you are competing with NASA. The env that requires resources is the production one, but that's not the case.

Then WTF are these expenses you are talking about?   

This is about as cheap as you can get for dedicated servers... http://www.soyoustart.com/us/essential-servers/ - server operating costs are cheaper than they used to be, but far from free Smiley
Cheap VPS servers are good for low load websites and apps, thats about it.
You get what you pay for that is for sure!
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January 12, 2015, 11:03:28 PM
Last edit: January 12, 2015, 11:38:34 PM by idol
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Is there a block explorer up yet?

Also have the addresses for the dev portion and community fund been made public?



Used to be.5 btc to make BE from venders
since BTC drop so much now they are asking .7 BTC to make block explorer

we have to raise some funds to pay for block explorer or someone that knows how to make one perhaps do one for AM Smiley


also why people still have aero on crypsy?
don't they realize swap is done and they are now holding dead coins?

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January 13, 2015, 01:19:58 PM
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Introducing CryptoCommunity on Slack.com!
 
Aero has been invited to join the fastest growing community of crypto-currency investors, traders, developers, enthusiasts, noobs, and all other walks of crypto.
Get in here, the charts are ticking!
 
Experience the power with slack, and you will forget about IRC instantly.
 
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This is old news for the Aero community. But now all coins listed above has been contacted to join the slack group.
Hopefully we will see a lot of new blood flooding in the channel, so be sure to get in and start chatting with the newcomers Smiley

And if you havent join yet, please do! Smiley



On another note, I got Aerotalk up and running again a couple hours ago, but the hosting servers went down.
Out of my reach, and I am contacting the IP guys to see whats the issue.
I am back full time and I can finally dedicate time to Aerotalk and Slack group, while we prepare marketing strategy for AeroME release witch is right around the corner (read last post by Majika Wink).

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January 13, 2015, 07:19:33 PM
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Dear Forum Members!

AeroCoin is listed on YoBit.net Exchange (free coins in chat):

English: https://yobit.net/en/trade/AERO/BTC
Chinese: https://yobit.net/cn/trade/AERO/BTC
Russian: https://yobit.net/ru/trade/AERO/BTC

Our topic on BitcoinTalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914975.0


Great news, but are you aware that aero has now swapped to aerome (am) now?
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January 13, 2015, 07:35:50 PM
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Sorry, AeroMe will be ready in 1-2 hours. Thanks.


Great news, but are you aware that aero has now swapped to aerome (am) now?

 
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January 13, 2015, 07:57:36 PM
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That's great yobit!

I will definetly deposit some funds and try to create some volume.
Hope more will join in, as I am sure there are more then me that are pretty tired with bittrex and cryptsy.

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January 13, 2015, 08:16:10 PM
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Dear Forum Members!

AeroME is listed on YoBit.net Exchange (free coins in chat):

English: https://yobit.net/en/trade/AM/BTC
Chinese: https://yobit.net/cn/trade/AM/BTC
Russian: https://yobit.net/ru/trade/AM/BTC

Our topic on BitcoinTalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914975.0

 
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January 13, 2015, 08:25:24 PM
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Great Yobit! Appreciated.

About PM, I am not the developer. But I'll get an answer to you asap.

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January 13, 2015, 08:29:31 PM
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Every posts by Majika (dev) has been added to OP so people who dont reguarly watch this thread can understand better what has been going on.
I will do this every time from now on.



Latest Updates From Developer

04.12.14 - IPO Announcment.
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05.12.14 - Explaining the IPO.
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08.12.14 - Closing Down IPO, Coinswap still happening. Apology from Developer.
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27.12.14 - New AM Wallet - Details
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04.01.15 - OSX Wallet - Bittrex Swap Figures
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06.01.15 - Manual Coin Swap Information
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08.01.15 - 72 Hour Notice - Cryptsy Information
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11.01.15 - Final Swap Notice
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11.01.15 - Coinswap Over - Answering Questions

If you have any questions, I'll advice you to join in on the cryptocommunity.slack.com.
You will get the answers you are looking for Smiley

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