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Author Topic: [ANN][XFC] Finercoin丨X11丨POW+POS丨First Working Anonymous Coin丨Launched June 26  (Read 85735 times)
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June 27, 2014, 11:06:16 AM
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ANON THAT WORKS!!! OMG

THIS IS HUGE!!

@ people whining about the premine. Get over it. Many coins at the top list have had premines. This is not a big deal. Man up.

ANON THAT WORKS FOR THE FIRST TIME HOWEVER IS A BIG DEAL

The problem is more the lack of honesty over the premine, than the premine itself.

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June 27, 2014, 11:07:37 AM
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The wallet ignores command line parameters (e.g.: --help, -datadir).

We will check,Thanks
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June 27, 2014, 11:17:24 AM
Last edit: June 28, 2014, 07:57:41 AM by finerpay
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.

Yes, we accept responsibility for the premine, it is a necessary component.
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June 27, 2014, 11:21:19 AM
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.
Yes, we accept premine, we are in order to maintain the normal operation of the finercoin and pay some bounty, in addition to some test.
I want to say to you I'm sorry, because I hid premine
anonimous transactions and anonimous premine  Grin Grin Grin
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June 27, 2014, 11:22:58 AM
Last edit: June 28, 2014, 08:11:06 AM by finerpay
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.
Yes, we accept premine, we are in order to maintain the normal operation of the finercoin and pay some bounty, in addition to some test.
I want to say to you I'm sorry, because I hid premine
anonimous transactions and anonimous premine  Grin Grin Grin
A few weeks ago, we had a PR pow wow in between our 3rd meeting of the day and breakfast, to discuss what all should be included in the official ANN, how it should be laid out, and how far in advance to post everything. We hit a roadblock: How do we tell them about something we cannot risk telling everyone? Something necessary yet concealed for their own protection?  On one hand we knew it would look scammy, but the safety of the coin depends on its own anonymity. Would this reveal our trade secrets or expose our users to a threat or will we lose too much faith in those we have worked so hard to empower? All of these questions came up. Repeatedly. . Bear in mind that we were working 22 hours a day for a (at least) a week prior to launch. Stuck in between a rock and very hard place we ran out of time for public relations dilemma #57. Multiple attempts to reschedule this meeting failed due to time constraints, somehow always superseded by more important matters. As launch day rapidly drew closer, we found ourselves so incredibly focused on making the coin, wallet, anonymous features, and backend as flawless as possible,  we just couldn't deviate from our 22/7 primary goal: To give you, the real people, a weapon more powerful than the Level 70 Blade of Compounding Interest wielded by Evil Dr. Mortgage Lender. I'm talking about a fully functional anonymous coin that has the very real possibility of saving lives NOW.

This was not a sneaky, underhanded attept at thievery... of our own coins. We certainly could have taken 5% for ourselves and still created a very successful, widely used, groundbreaking new coin no one else truly has. You don't like the 1%? Don't let the door hit you on the way out. We created this coin for everyone. Not to please you, not to get rich for ourselves. For everyone. We will continue to oversee this endeavor and add better, faster features already in closed beta testing like the MultiSig One-Click Tool Belt.

We understand your concern, however, without initial liquid capital, FinerCoin's growth potential becomes dangerously limited. You have every right to fear the worst case scenario after such a long streak of con artists sailed in and sold you a steaming pile of bullshit. I'm not here to be your blame bucket or make excuses. We really did just make history with Anonymous features (Not next week, not "Soon"), but NOW. Anonymous works NOW and this is only the beginning. No one can give birth to a full grown adult. Just like you cannot start out with the finest currency. It must be developed from something special. Something Finer.
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June 27, 2014, 11:24:41 AM
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.
Yes, we accept premine, we are in order to maintain the normal operation of the finercoin and pay some bounty, in addition to some test.
I want to say to you I'm sorry, because I hid premine

Thanks for the honest dev.

it's normal for premine, even darkcoin and XC coin has some big premine, both they have achieve a big success.

the only important thing is the innovative technology  XFC may bring out for Altcoin.

keep hard working dev.

looking forward to the stage2 and stage3 release. that will change everything!
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June 27, 2014, 11:26:04 AM
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.

better when dev online.

do you know how many coin dark and XC premined?

dev start this at block 300.

so it‘s normal, otherwise why dev develop this coin if he has no coin......

do you know how many btc satoshi has? Grin

anyway, wait dev's reply for premine for properly used. then it's fine.

You're entirely correct. all we are asking the dev is to be honest. Even if he wants to keep the entire3.25% to himself, we just want to know he is honest and it would be safe for us to know what we are up against.
Unlike some coins where the dev gives out IPO and trusts the BTC fund rather than his own coin, a little premine is cool.
But we need to know where these premine are going into and who is going to control these.
If in the future this coin gets big and there is a misunderstanding in the community or the dev team and some1 decides to dump their huge share, all of us 'll be screwed. thats what we are afraid of.

And moreover the prolonged silence of the dev about the premine and is desperation to avoid ou questions is creating serious fear and doubts. these stuffs will surely chase out the big investors

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June 27, 2014, 11:27:30 AM
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.
Yes, we accept premine, we are in order to maintain the normal operation of the finercoin and pay some bounty, in addition to some test.
I want to say to you I'm sorry, because I hid premine
Atlast you've come out. thank you dev. this could be really constructive

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June 27, 2014, 11:30:12 AM
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.
Yes, we accept premine, we are in order to maintain the normal operation of the finercoin and pay some bounty, in addition to some test.
I want to say to you I'm sorry, because I hid premine

Thanks guy! at least you recognized your error, as one said, it´s worst you were hidden the premine that the premine itself.

But I recomend you another additional step, why don´t you post the wallet/s adress/es where the premine is allocated, in order everybody can check it´s not being moved.....and post also the bounties....etc. In order to pay back my confidence in your work, you should post the information, shouldn´t you?
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June 27, 2014, 11:35:01 AM
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.
Yes, we accept premine, we are in order to maintain the normal operation of the finercoin and pay some bounty, in addition to some test.
I want to say to you I'm sorry, because I hid premine

Thanks guy! at least you recognized your error, as one said, it´s worst you were hidden the premine that the premine itself.

But I recomend you another additional step, why don´t you post the wallet/s adress/es where the premine is allocated, in order everybody can check it´s not being moved.....and post also the bounties....etc. In order to pay back my confidence in your work, you should post the information, shouldn´t you?

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June 27, 2014, 11:41:38 AM
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.
Yes, we accept premine, we are in order to maintain the normal operation of the finercoin and pay some bounty, in addition to some test.
I want to say to you I'm sorry, because I hid premine

Thanks guy! at least you recognized your error, as one said, it´s worst you were hidden the premine that the premine itself.

But I recomend you another additional step, why don´t you post the wallet/s adress/es where the premine is allocated, in order everybody can check it´s not being moved.....and post also the bounties....etc. In order to pay back my confidence in your work, you should post the information, shouldn´t you?

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June 27, 2014, 11:43:00 AM
Last edit: June 28, 2014, 12:48:11 AM by finerpay
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.
Yes, we accept premine, we are in order to maintain the normal operation of the finercoin and pay some bounty, in addition to some test.
I want to say to you I'm sorry, because I hid premine
Atlast you've come out. thank you dev. this could be really constructive
We have worked very hard to make this coin ((function perfectly)). It would be a tremendous waste of our time and resources to dump the premined community bounty funds. Furthermore, that would ruin our long term plans and the years of hard work it took to make this groundbreaking coin available to you today.

One of the upcoming additions ((currently in Alpha Testing)) are the Multisig Tools. Traditionally, almost every cryptocoin wallet has been capable of creating Multisig addresses via the built-in command line console. We are taking this to a whole new level with private MasterKeys which will grant the MasterKey holder full control over many complex and daunting command line features rarely utilized in most wallets today. With easy to use MultiSignature addresses, you can lose a private key and still have 2 other wallets which can be combined to recreate your Masterkey, granting access to otherwise lost funds. It is also much more secure than normal wallets are, as an attacker would have to gain physical access to multiple computers instead of just one before being able to potentially compromise your funds. Theoretically, you can have one-of-three, five-of-five, or six-of-eleven addresses too; it just happens that two-of-three is the most useful combination in many situations.

Soon we will add a few new trustworthy professionals to our elite team. We must be prepared for any legal, technical, or project management tsunamis that have washed out other good coins in their infancy. By building a strong foundation, we hope to put the power of cryptocurrency back in your hands for many generations to come.
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June 27, 2014, 11:44:50 AM
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.
Yes, we accept premine, we are in order to maintain the normal operation of the finercoin and pay some bounty, in addition to some test.
I want to say to you I'm sorry, because I hid premine

Thanks guy! at least you recognized your error, as one said, it´s worst you were hidden the premine that the premine itself.

But I recomend you another additional step, why don´t you post the wallet/s adress/es where the premine is allocated, in order everybody can check it´s not being moved.....and post also the bounties....etc. In order to pay back my confidence in your work, you should post the information, shouldn´t you?
Yes, before the completion of the multiple signature tools, the premine address will be posted publicly.

((Alongside the reason for each expenditure like Bounties, Fountains, Games, Exchanges, and Server/Miscellaneous Developer Pizza costs. Hey, I gotta eat, too!))
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June 27, 2014, 11:46:59 AM
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Better. I don't know why you werent just open and honest from the start. You would have done much better.

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June 27, 2014, 11:47:38 AM
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Well...this is a first.  A dev who was honest about being dishonest.

I don't know whether to like you or hate you...either way, I'll mine.  Rentals are insane cheap. .0004 per mh/s popped up a few times.
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June 27, 2014, 11:49:06 AM
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The wallet ignores command line parameters (e.g.: --help, -datadir).

We will check,Thanks

help has no -
Works fine when typed correctly.

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June 27, 2014, 11:49:58 AM
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I have already published these addresses before, if they were not moved:

Rich List before 328 block:

Code:
fFp6yaU4rVLczPHdctWUasPDW3BeDK4Mtx: 	30990
fXU1r5qBmzpYV8t7TY3pPi4it8Pw5ZRwN9: 28500
fcMfxteSmiXFKTEqApqHfRa54rF2k3b9tA: 25500
fSKee8MTmnYePE3nnK2FLvnq1SkYDV2jbe: 22500
fZKKdd2yZ4NbqYzNhiF5JixCWppnqYuKZ6: 18000
fVwimpbWCPuWtKX6WwKi3eYgTGZTFmBkwT: 10000
fa6jjmhCjos3JNk4pzSRLZnSc39UQ5MurG: 8475
fVUZxZguUjrCBhEskREw5YBTnutUUmvKoT: 6000
fFVSdEVp9kUHGZY3pFEC26bQ7fPw2rXSbG: 4500
fMoaPVcSeP3WeMJo37Q1dqhB8p3jYrZjNF: 4500
fY35g9kBZoheR7qQaQGLqsiWyKgVV6Wd1U: 4000
fG68YEwkCEFZ7SZ15EseMTc6ettYctSTLU: 1000
fRnmjobAcSwNyN6N9eToBAXYnyPP6yT6ZY: 14,99996
fF32GCt5KdEp4X8Mt3QviendGxoowmnfs4: 10
fSzo1suoEW3NivSB9RTbKamfR545cg8XPw: 10
fMtHkQmqYMQPdiwFLCs3kM6mj15p28tM8p: 0
fGjA4KUcBCdoPfLd2JrX5gX2z1kgoGgkUi: 0
fEugjbKw7NoYeRsSBSU9pa7HRXR3oc6Y4G: 0

164k total ~ 3% premine

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THX,I decided to delete premine1 %
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June 27, 2014, 11:50:53 AM
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.
Yes, we accept premine, we are in order to maintain the normal operation of the finercoin and pay some bounty, in addition to some test.
I want to say to you I'm sorry, because I hid premine
Atlast you've come out. thank you dev. this could be really constructive
We will find some people who are trusted or institutions to regulate, so please don't worry we'll dump.
In fact, we are developing multiple signature has been making progress in this respect,multisignature transactions. In a traditional Finercoin account, as described above, you have Finercoin addresses, where each address has one associated private key that grants the keyholder full control over the funds. With multisignature addresses, you can have a Finercoin address with three associated private keys, such that you need any two of them to spend the funds. Theoretically, you can have one-of-three, five-of-five, or six-of-eleven addresses too; it just happens that two-of-three is the most useful combination.

That’s a really great thing and can change altcoin word for sure.

 Grin
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June 27, 2014, 11:59:14 AM
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The wallet ignores command line parameters (e.g.: --help, -datadir).

We will check,Thanks

help has no -
Works fine when typed correctly.

Classic is "--help" or "-h", check others wallets or programs.
In my case does not work in any form.
Have you checked and is working? How about -datadir?
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June 27, 2014, 12:00:54 PM
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guys thought we have inquired repeatedly about a explanation about the premine from the dev, he hsan't come out with any reply.
This suggests only one thing - that he is a cheater and is trying to scam us all.
Even if the annonymous works or not, the kinda devs don't deserve any forgiveness.

So what i suggest is, if the dev doesn't give us any explanation within 6Hrs we contact all exchanges and suggest them not to take this coin. and we could also tag him scammer

I do know that you all would have invested so much in this by using your own rigs or by renting (i myself had spent 0.12BTC to rent rigs). But that doesn't mean we'll have to support this scammer.
Yes, we accept premine, we are in order to maintain the normal operation of the finercoin and pay some bounty, in addition to some test.
I want to say to you I'm sorry, because I hid premine

Thanks guy! at least you recognized your error, as one said, it´s worst you were hidden the premine that the premine itself.

But I recomend you another additional step, why don´t you post the wallet/s adress/es where the premine is allocated, in order everybody can check it´s not being moved.....and post also the bounties....etc. In order to pay back my confidence in your work, you should post the information, shouldn´t you?
Yes, before the completion of the multiple signature, I'll open premine address

You made my day guy!...I agree and will support your excellent work with more mining MHs
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