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July 05, 2014, 07:32:25 PM |
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We have been thinking of changing the denominations of Navajo Coin from Nav to Code. The reason is that is not very politically correct and might offend some people. E.G. I want to buy from you 10 Navajos.. We would rather change it into codes and keep the coin name as Navajo. It might not be intuitive and may confuse some at the beginning but we believe it is not such a big problem and that the former problem (Navajo denominations) is much bigger.
Please let us know what you think
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SUM2Devs
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July 05, 2014, 08:01:16 PM |
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My proposition is N-Code, because I think the name should cointain something with Navajo. Two other names can cause a different emotions, not necessarily positive. A small single detail can change a lot, think about it.
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July 05, 2014, 08:37:23 PM |
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What about Navajo Code as a coin name and CODE as denomination?
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GREEDYJOHN
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July 05, 2014, 09:04:44 PM |
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What about Navajo Code as a coin name and CODE as denomination?
It could be better as Najavo Coin as the coin and CODE as denomination.
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July 05, 2014, 10:16:30 PM |
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Discussion
We have been thinking of changing the denominations of Navajo Coin from Nav to Code. The reason is that is not very politically correct and might offend some people. E.G. I want to buy from you 10 Navajos.. We would rather change it into codes and keep the coin name as Navajo. It might not be intuitive and may confuse some at the beginning but we believe it is not such a big problem and that the former problem (Navajo denominations) is much bigger.
Please let us know what you think
Best Regards,
SUM2Devs
I find it an excellent initiative, both as to the manner in which it is done, ie an open discussion, and the merit itself of the matter and its motivations. Obviously I'm in favor of the name change. In this way at least you will save yours scalp. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Regarding the name, I think BigBlind has the merit of having given an alternative (CodeCoin -> CODE) on this Forum. This name not being very widespread, would have the advantage that in a Google search produces relatively few results. So this coin would be easier to find for a person interested or just curious. Sure, CODE is not really the best abbreviation we can choose, especially in the IT field, but it is still better than CDC. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) IMHO, If you could find something else might be better. A small note, if I'm not mistaken around February had come out a wallet called CodeCoin-QT, but I think it concerned a coin other with another name.
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Remy_5
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July 05, 2014, 10:24:49 PM |
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What about Navajo Code as a coin name and CODE as denomination?
WOW... What a wonderful amazing combination.... Now with this change of name is not even the need to fix the source of the wallet. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Apart from the joke, with Navajo Coin, it would still be the problem of "EG I want to buy from you 10 Navajos".
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July 05, 2014, 10:31:47 PM |
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People will not be trading Navajos but Navajocoins. They might in short call them Nav or Navs which is OK I never thought I was trading in summers until now
To be honest I don't see a problem at all. Or to put it another way, if the name Navajo is the source of the problem, changing the denomination from NAV to CODE will not fix it
But if anyone is still concerned, what about NCC (Navajo Code Coin)?
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Remy_5
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July 05, 2014, 11:08:48 PM |
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1)Thank you very much for your kind review , at first the Drop Down list was the one in my mind but having one will only contain the users to a set of Nodes which they can feel unsecure about , since I have made drastic changes to the aspect of Decentralized Anonymity the users will have the liberty of choosing their own node despite all
2) Yes the users will have access to a similar feature in the new client , you will be able to see updates on the next set of sneak peaks.
PS: With the new changes it should be 100% Decentralized Anonymity.
Warm Regards, ~SoopY~
Thanks for the reply. I hope the getting a different point of view can help you. I will wait the new sneak peaks. Regarding the "drastic changes to the appearance of decentralized anonymity" and "100% decentralized", i'm sorry, don't understand. Did you have abandoned the idea of "Magic" and the "Star gate" gateway? In other words, did you redesigned the whitepaper/data flow? Sorry to ask, without disclose all the detail, can you give us some clue?
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Remy_5
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July 05, 2014, 11:20:47 PM Last edit: July 05, 2014, 11:34:41 PM by Remy_5 |
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To be honest I don't see a problem at all. Or to put it another way, if the name Navajo is the source of the problem, changing the denomination from NAV to CODE will not fix it
But if anyone is still concerned, what about NCC (Navajo Code Coin)?
ROTFL Great. Please send me NCC 1701, No bloody A, B, C, or D. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Sincerely thank you, has been a rough day, I needed a good laugh. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Apart from the joke, as stated before: "The reason is that is not very politically correct and might offend some people." IMHO, the simpler solution is change both name and denomination, and eventually maintain the Navajo Code only for the core technology name.
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SUM2dev (OP)
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July 05, 2014, 11:24:10 PM |
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1)Thank you very much for your kind review , at first the Drop Down list was the one in my mind but having one will only contain the users to a set of Nodes which they can feel unsecure about , since I have made drastic changes to the aspect of Decentralized Anonymity the users will have the liberty of choosing their own node despite all
2) Yes the users will have access to a similar feature in the new client , you will be able to see updates on the next set of sneak peaks.
PS: With the new changes it should be 100% Decentralized Anonymity.
Warm Regards, ~SoopY~
Thanks for the reply. I hope the getting a different point of view can help you. I will wait the new sneak peaks. Regarding the "drastic changes to the appearance of decentralized anonymity" and "100% decentralized", i'm sorry, don't understand. Did you have abandoned the idea of "Magic" and the "Star gate" gateway? In other words, did you redesigned the whitepaper/data flow? Sorry to ask, without disclose all the detail, can you give us some clue? In the design there are three parts that contribute to the anonymity: The nodes, the Navajo "magic" gateway, and the choctaw "star" gate. The Navajo "magic" gateway and the choctaw "star" gate have always and still are fully decentralised. However, in the initial design the Nodes were centralised and were going to be setup by the dev exclusively while in the new version the nodes are decentralised making the whole process 100% decentralised. Anybody will be able to setup a node now.
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July 05, 2014, 11:35:38 PM Last edit: July 05, 2014, 11:54:33 PM by SUM2dev |
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Discussion
We have been thinking of changing the denominations of Navajo Coin from Nav to Code. The reason is that is not very politically correct and might offend some people. E.G. I want to buy from you 10 Navajos.. We would rather change it into codes and keep the coin name as Navajo. It might not be intuitive and may confuse some at the beginning but we believe it is not such a big problem and that the former problem (Navajo denominations) is much bigger.
Please let us know what you think
Best Regards,
SUM2Devs
UPDATE: A poll has been started. Please vote and let us know why.
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July 05, 2014, 11:45:31 PM |
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In other words, did you redesigned the whitepaper/data flow?
Sorry to ask, without disclose all the detail, can you give us some clue?
In the design there are three parts that contribute to the anonymity: The nodes, the Navajo "magic" gateway, and the choctaw "star" gate. The Navajo "magic" gateway and the choctaw "star" gate have always and still are fully decentralised. However, in the initial design the Nodes were centralised and were going to be setup by the dev exclusively while in the new version the nodes are decentralised making the whole process 100% decentralised. Anybody will be able to setup a node now. Ahh... I see. That was the reason why I said 33%. Now is more clear, and i can understand. So, in this manner you solved a serious potential issue. Many thanks for the your explain.
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July 06, 2014, 12:02:26 AM |
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What about Navajo Code as a coin name and CODE as denomination?
I like this idea! Sounds great imo, the right connection.
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July 06, 2014, 12:27:20 AM |
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What about Navajo Code as a coin name and CODE as denomination?
I like this idea! Sounds great imo, the right connection. I agree, I think all the other suggestions pale in comparison to this!! Code makes one think of Honor, the complete opposite of anything one could be offended about. There's some good NLP in this name I think:-)
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July 06, 2014, 12:29:40 AM |
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UPDATE:
A poll has been started. Please vote and let us know why.
Sorry to be so annoying, but I would respectfully ask how to vote for "Change, but none of the above"? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I would not annoy you more on why.
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July 06, 2014, 03:01:16 AM |
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The whole issue is trickish, CODE sends a strong message and is stylish, but NAV is easier for the general public.
I will vote for NAV.
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July 06, 2014, 03:05:44 AM |
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We already have a big N as our symbol, I feel that NAV would be better.
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July 06, 2014, 03:19:15 AM Last edit: July 06, 2014, 06:20:56 AM by cryptoholic11 |
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Yea Nav should be kept as the denomination. The idea that the name can garner disrespect is just subjective. The same 'offensive' interpretation can be applied to a lot of coins, blackcoin, whitecoin, isracoin, etc.
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July 06, 2014, 03:31:22 AM |
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English is not my native lang, so I don`t feel anything wrong with selling 10000 Navajo(coin)s ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 06, 2014, 06:17:04 AM |
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UPDATE:
A poll has been started. Please vote and let us know why.
Sorry to be so annoying, but I would respectfully ask how to vote for "Change, but none of the above"? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I would not annoy you more on why. We cannot make it none of the above as we need something for the name and denomination. What we can do is add your suggestion. So please submit a suggestion and it will be added.
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