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June 25, 2014, 07:37:27 PM |
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It's too bad that this coin had to be launched this way. It could have done quite well if the time was taken to do things right rather than just make it a quick pump and dump. This is a Darkcoin copy with a a few more algo's dropped in, premine that wasn't announced, and probably a private GPU miner at launch. You even see the Darkcoin logo in the taskbar when you launch the wallet. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fp73erq6z7%2Fbbbl.jpg&t=665&c=f0w16FQnEUnjWg)
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Vilchaco
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June 25, 2014, 07:39:52 PM |
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Nice coin ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Please elaborate. What do you find to be nice about this coin? No mining machine ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) What do you mean? They launched the coin with a private GPU miner they didn't tell anyone about. i think no gpu now ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fww4.sinaimg.cn%2Fbmiddle%2F87de5692gw1ehqz3ppza8j20nq0fpjuk.jpg&t=665&c=MRgt1mCJDjYE1Q) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fww3.sinaimg.cn%2Fbmiddle%2F87de5692gw1ehqz40sxsgj20nx0ff77k.jpg&t=665&c=2v_Ip8N3n13pdQ) WTF? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ?
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TheCoinFinder
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June 25, 2014, 07:42:42 PM |
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> just make it a quick pump and dump.
Not much of a pump and dump at the moment. Not many mined blocks before launch really when compared to other coins with value. This is a Darkcoin copy with a a few more algo's dropped in
The few more algo's kept this coin from being massively instamined by rented rigs. Though there is an argument that EC2 instances could also be used - they are probably far more costly, and also more complicated to set up. premine that wasn't announced
Granted, the OP thread needs to be re-done. With that in mind, shadow_runner posted the block start about 3 posts in so its quite easy to notice - along with the working block explorer from launch. and a private GPU miner at launch.
Proof? Or just listening to other people making such guesses. There seems to be no such private GPU miner, even on my pool where people are reporting 6mh/s (or whatever the actual hashrate is) - they are submitting a lot of lower difficulty shares, which lends credence to multiple CPU threads such as EC2 instances, rather than one or two powerful (relatively) GPU threads. Now either contribute, or go find some other coin.
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dstorm
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June 25, 2014, 07:50:31 PM |
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Well, now http://bbl.altmine.net/ is being retarded, it's paying me like 6 bbr, and was paying like 40 something per block, just keeps going down, not even worth mining at that rate, and it's not at all proportional to my hash rate which is showing 50K on there, which is wrong but assuming is proportionally wrong. Ahhh, should have stayed solo mining. The pool hashrate has increased a lot in the past 3 hours. It is now more than 7.5MH/s. That is why you are getting paid less.
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shojayxt
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June 25, 2014, 07:54:59 PM |
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> just make it a quick pump and dump.
Not much of a pump and dump at the moment. Not many mined blocks before launch really when compared to other coins with value. This is a Darkcoin copy with a a few more algo's dropped in
The few more algo's kept this coin from being massively instamined by rented rigs. Though there is an argument that EC2 instances could also be used - they are probably far more costly, and also more complicated to set up. premine that wasn't announced
Granted, the OP thread needs to be re-done. With that in mind, shadow_runner posted the block start about 3 posts in so its quite easy to notice - along with the working block explorer from launch. and a private GPU miner at launch.
Proof? Or just listening to other people making such guesses. There seems to be no such private GPU miner, even on my pool where people are reporting 6mh/s (or whatever the actual hashrate is) - they are submitting a lot of lower difficulty shares, which lends credence to multiple CPU threads such as EC2 instances, rather than one or two powerful (relatively) GPU threads. Now either contribute, or go find some other coin.I'll contribute anyway I want. If that means pointing out flaws then that's what I'll do.
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June 25, 2014, 07:55:34 PM |
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Hey guys that is normal:  { "blocks" : 3994, "currentblocksize" : 1000, "currentblocktx" : 0, "difficulty" : 0.25000000, "errors" : "", "generate" : false, "genproclimit" : -1, "hashespersec" : 0, "networkhashps" : 45772996, "pooledtx" : 1, "testnet" : false }
I'm mining with 2 computers and all seem ok but generate = false.... why the hell? Thanks ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Vilchaco
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June 25, 2014, 07:57:06 PM |
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Hey guys that is normal:  { "blocks" : 3994, "currentblocksize" : 1000, "currentblocktx" : 0, "difficulty" : 0.25000000, "errors" : "", "generate" : false, "genproclimit" : -1, "hashespersec" : 0, "networkhashps" : 45772996, "pooledtx" : 1, "testnet" : false }
I'm mining with 2 computers and all seem ok but generate = false.... why the hell? Thanks ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Type setgenerate true Now you are mining ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 25, 2014, 07:58:27 PM |
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Type setgenerate true Now you are mining ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Ah ok i understand why, it's because i use minerd ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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dstorm
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June 25, 2014, 07:59:41 PM |
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Hey guys that is normal:  { "blocks" : 3994, "currentblocksize" : 1000, "currentblocktx" : 0, "difficulty" : 0.25000000, "errors" : "", "generate" : false, "genproclimit" : -1, "hashespersec" : 0, "networkhashps" : 45772996, "pooledtx" : 1, "testnet" : false }
I'm mining with 2 computers and all seem ok but generate = false.... why the hell? Thanks ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) That is normal if you are mining with the standalone miner.
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shojayxt
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June 25, 2014, 08:05:37 PM |
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No not all were us. A few exchanges were allowed to also pre-mine very few blocks before launch as incentive to exchanging very soon. The server main wallet sits cold with about 50k in BBL that will not be touched or dumped. We will not destroy the potential of a great coin with new hashing algo by just dumping stock instantly...
So you have already paid off exchanges to get listed before officially launching the coin. My suspicions were correct. Oh and the ANN says BLOCK GENERATION 2.5 MINUTES but over 2 million coins have already been mined. Just like Darkcoin instamine Block Approx. Time Transactions Value Out Difficulty Outstanding Average Age Chain Age % CoinDD 4016 2014-06-25 20:03:12 1 500 0.25 1879602 0.42037 2.65287 7.08246% 4015 2014-06-25 20:02:41 1 500 0.25 1879102 0.420127 2.65251 7.08808% 4014 2014-06-25 20:02:15 1 500 0.25 1878602 0.419931 2.65221 7.09279% 4013 2014-06-25 20:01:42 1 500 0.25 1878102 0.419664 2.65183 7.09879% 4012 2014-06-25 20:01:36 1 500 0.25 1877602 0.419711 2.65176 7.09988% 4011 2014-06-25 20:01:34 1 500 0.25 1877102 0.419792 2.65174 7.10025% 4010 2014-06-25 20:01:12 1 500 0.25 1876602 0.419653 2.65148 7.10425% 4009 2014-06-25 20:00:41 1 500 0.25 1876102 0.41941 2.65112 7.10989% 4008 2014-06-25 20:00:17 1 500 0.25 1875602 0.419236 2.65084 7.11427% Anyway, people have fun with this. I'ts going to the moon.
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Vilchaco
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June 25, 2014, 08:07:49 PM |
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Selling 1000 BBL. PM with offers ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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June 25, 2014, 08:09:47 PM |
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how can I see the total money supply? I can't see it with "getinfo".
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atleticofa
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June 25, 2014, 08:10:58 PM |
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LOL There was no GPU miner at launch, that's for sure. Hashrate was so so so low.
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June 25, 2014, 08:12:17 PM |
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A 3Ghz intel sandy bridge making 15kh/s per core And top miner has 3MH/s ??!?! These days instamining with pre-rented hardware and/or closed source miners is called fair-launch. Is this BBR/XMR replay?
Thats what i wanted to say before... if every body is having the same hr issue, why top miners not? Probably a GPU miner around that hasn't been posted or a botnet? I hope so, because those are reasonable things. If u want a GPUminer before than everyone, become a programmer, and about botnet... nothing we can do it's unlikely that anybody has bothered coding a GPU miner for this yet. The hash rates you guys are seeing are from people renting cloud computing instances like Amazon EC2 and the like. if you know how, you can rent a cloud linux box with 32 XEON Processors and 96GB of RAM on a RAID SSD drive. it's not cheap, but with low difficulty, it will hash this algo very nicely.
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June 25, 2014, 08:14:20 PM |
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No not all were us. A few exchanges were allowed to also pre-mine very few blocks before launch as incentive to exchanging very soon. The server main wallet sits cold with about 50k in BBL that will not be touched or dumped. We will not destroy the potential of a great coin with new hashing algo by just dumping stock instantly...
So you have already paid off exchanges to get listed before officially launching the coin. My suspicions were correct. Oh and the ANN says BLOCK GENERATION 2.5 MINUTES but over 2 million coins have already been mined. Just like Darkcoin instamine Block Approx. Time Transactions Value Out Difficulty Outstanding Average Age Chain Age % CoinDD 4016 2014-06-25 20:03:12 1 500 0.25 1879602 0.42037 2.65287 7.08246% 4015 2014-06-25 20:02:41 1 500 0.25 1879102 0.420127 2.65251 7.08808% 4014 2014-06-25 20:02:15 1 500 0.25 1878602 0.419931 2.65221 7.09279% 4013 2014-06-25 20:01:42 1 500 0.25 1878102 0.419664 2.65183 7.09879% 4012 2014-06-25 20:01:36 1 500 0.25 1877602 0.419711 2.65176 7.09988% 4011 2014-06-25 20:01:34 1 500 0.25 1877102 0.419792 2.65174 7.10025% 4010 2014-06-25 20:01:12 1 500 0.25 1876602 0.419653 2.65148 7.10425% 4009 2014-06-25 20:00:41 1 500 0.25 1876102 0.41941 2.65112 7.10989% 4008 2014-06-25 20:00:17 1 500 0.25 1875602 0.419236 2.65084 7.11427% Anyway, people have fun with this. I'ts going to the moon. The block times are way too fast but I don't think 2M coins have been mined yet. Like DarkCoin, the block reward reduces as the diff gets higher. It started at 500 and dropped to 277 around block 1000. Current money supply is probably around 1M.
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Vilchaco
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June 25, 2014, 08:16:30 PM |
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No not all were us. A few exchanges were allowed to also pre-mine very few blocks before launch as incentive to exchanging very soon. The server main wallet sits cold with about 50k in BBL that will not be touched or dumped. We will not destroy the potential of a great coin with new hashing algo by just dumping stock instantly...
So you have already paid off exchanges to get listed before officially launching the coin. My suspicions were correct. Oh and the ANN says BLOCK GENERATION 2.5 MINUTES but over 2 million coins have already been mined. Just like Darkcoin instamine Block Approx. Time Transactions Value Out Difficulty Outstanding Average Age Chain Age % CoinDD 4016 2014-06-25 20:03:12 1 500 0.25 1879602 0.42037 2.65287 7.08246% 4015 2014-06-25 20:02:41 1 500 0.25 1879102 0.420127 2.65251 7.08808% 4014 2014-06-25 20:02:15 1 500 0.25 1878602 0.419931 2.65221 7.09279% 4013 2014-06-25 20:01:42 1 500 0.25 1878102 0.419664 2.65183 7.09879% 4012 2014-06-25 20:01:36 1 500 0.25 1877602 0.419711 2.65176 7.09988% 4011 2014-06-25 20:01:34 1 500 0.25 1877102 0.419792 2.65174 7.10025% 4010 2014-06-25 20:01:12 1 500 0.25 1876602 0.419653 2.65148 7.10425% 4009 2014-06-25 20:00:41 1 500 0.25 1876102 0.41941 2.65112 7.10989% 4008 2014-06-25 20:00:17 1 500 0.25 1875602 0.419236 2.65084 7.11427% Anyway, people have fun with this. I'ts going to the moon. The block times are way to fast but I don't think 2M coins have been mined yet. Like DarkCoin, the block reward reduces as the diff gets higher. It started at 500 and dropped to 277 around block 1000. Current money supply is probably around 1M. From http://explorer.bitblock.ml/chain/BitBlockOutstanding = 1888433 So 1.8M coins mined ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 25, 2014, 08:19:56 PM |
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No not all were us. A few exchanges were allowed to also pre-mine very few blocks before launch as incentive to exchanging very soon. The server main wallet sits cold with about 50k in BBL that will not be touched or dumped. We will not destroy the potential of a great coin with new hashing algo by just dumping stock instantly...
So you have already paid off exchanges to get listed before officially launching the coin. My suspicions were correct. Oh and the ANN says BLOCK GENERATION 2.5 MINUTES but over 2 million coins have already been mined. Just like Darkcoin instamine Block Approx. Time Transactions Value Out Difficulty Outstanding Average Age Chain Age % CoinDD 4016 2014-06-25 20:03:12 1 500 0.25 1879602 0.42037 2.65287 7.08246% 4015 2014-06-25 20:02:41 1 500 0.25 1879102 0.420127 2.65251 7.08808% 4014 2014-06-25 20:02:15 1 500 0.25 1878602 0.419931 2.65221 7.09279% 4013 2014-06-25 20:01:42 1 500 0.25 1878102 0.419664 2.65183 7.09879% 4012 2014-06-25 20:01:36 1 500 0.25 1877602 0.419711 2.65176 7.09988% 4011 2014-06-25 20:01:34 1 500 0.25 1877102 0.419792 2.65174 7.10025% 4010 2014-06-25 20:01:12 1 500 0.25 1876602 0.419653 2.65148 7.10425% 4009 2014-06-25 20:00:41 1 500 0.25 1876102 0.41941 2.65112 7.10989% 4008 2014-06-25 20:00:17 1 500 0.25 1875602 0.419236 2.65084 7.11427% Anyway, people have fun with this. I'ts going to the moon. The block times are way too fast but I don't think 2M coins have been mined yet. Like DarkCoin, the block reward reduces as the diff gets higher. It started at 500 and dropped to 277 around block 1000. Current money supply is probably around 1M. At block 4016 it was 500 * 4016 = 2,008,000.
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June 25, 2014, 08:27:44 PM |
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June 25, 2014, 08:28:46 PM |
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something is wrong with bloc explorer: http://explorer.bitblock.ml/address/XdDEHCxhJmnuwW6NLMJRZWfECYWUq8kjVAmy address reports that I have 110 BBL but in fact I have about 600 in my wallet. It seems to me that one block solomined is not showed there. Anyway for all of those who are negative to this coin just one question: What cost me to mine this with CPUs in same time when all of my rigs mine some other coin with another miner. In fact I wouldn't like to see GPU miner at all it is better this way. It costs me nothing and I must say that I m getting this coin for free without need to touch my GPU miners.
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