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March 03, 2012, 01:02:50 AM |
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i was foolish and too trusting. now that paypal has sided with the buyer, i think it would be prudent to post the full disclosure (names, phone numbers, addresses, details) regarding this case. is this the proper place for that?
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boconniff40
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March 03, 2012, 01:16:37 AM |
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take it to court
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March 03, 2012, 01:20:52 AM |
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i was foolish and too trusting. now that paypal has sided with the buyer, i think it would be prudent to post the full disclosure (names, phone numbers, addresses, details) regarding this case. is this the proper place for that? It would not. Do not release the private information of others. We don't know if the names are real, fake, or borrowed, or know for sure they were scammers (not to offend, but we have no idea if you're doing some "4chan army" BS). Never touch Paypal. Ever. Go to court if you have to, try to settle personally if possible. |
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March 03, 2012, 01:26:33 AM |
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i was foolish and too trusting. now that paypal has sided with the buyer,
Would you mind sharing at least some details though? e.g., How long after the transaction was it before the dispute? Did PayPal just place a hold (reverse transfer of funds) for the one transaction or did they put a freeze on your account? Have you done these transactions before? If so, how many good and how many bad? And for those who live vicariously through others, how much did you lose? |
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BookofNick
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March 03, 2012, 01:47:15 AM |
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I sold $116 worth of BTC on eBay last month. After I sent the bitcoins, the buyer (in Hong Kong) initiated a chargeback, claiming that the charge was made without his consent. Another ebayer tried to warn me, but a little too late.
There's nothing I could do, and there's probably little you can do. PayPal will NOT side with you.
The only upside is that it was my first time being scammed after selling many many BTCs with a high premium on eBay. I won't keep selling them, though. Too much risk.
Sorry, dude. I sympathize with you.
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boconniff40
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March 03, 2012, 01:57:10 AM |
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after you make shady deals you're suppose to empty your paypal account man, what are you new at this?
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March 03, 2012, 12:10:32 PM |
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This is why i hate fucking paypal.
Lost $155 to this chargeback bullshit, even though i laid out very good proof against the scammer (e-mails and personal messages). I really feel you man, this is bullshit :l
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tatsuchan
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March 03, 2012, 01:30:40 PM |
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Paypal is a scam. Isn't this why we're all trying to get things like Bitcoin off the ground??? There is no security there towards buyers. I used to sell a lot of music equipment, but after some douche accused me of not sending a product (was settled later) my paypal got all screwed up, holding funds, putting holds on my bank account. I still CANNOT change credit card/bank account info/ or update ANYTHING from my paypal business account. There are businesses out there that failed because paypal screwed over account holders for $2 charge backs.
Your money is lost. Consider this. It costs tens-of-thousands of dollars for a good college education. You just paid for a class on economics and business transactions.
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Bitcoin ShitList
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March 03, 2012, 02:00:01 PM |
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i was foolish and too trusting. now that paypal has sided with the buyer, i think it would be prudent to post the full disclosure (names, phone numbers, addresses, details) regarding this case. is this the proper place for that?
The Bitcoin Shitlist is the place to post the full disclosure regarding the case. Just stick to the facts and you(and us) should be OK. Thank you. |
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victory1
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March 04, 2012, 01:28:42 AM |
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You should not sell BTC via paypal in the first place.
Paypal does not allow any swap or exchange of other e-currency in its platform. They are very sensitive about it.
I recommend you to write this off, the odds are stack against you.
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BlueCorp
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March 05, 2012, 03:42:16 AM |
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Ebay is evil
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March 05, 2012, 04:40:59 AM |
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i was foolish and too trusting. now that paypal has sided with the buyer, i think it would be prudent to post the full disclosure (names, phone numbers, addresses, details) regarding this case. is this the proper place for that?
Be careful next time. |
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March 05, 2012, 03:23:52 PM |
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Neither ebay nor paypal are inherently evil. You can easily be fooled the same way on the street or in shops if you are unaware of what they are doing or working like.
Just look around to see how a company is acting and take that into consideration before acting. There are enough reports about ebay/paypal in this forum telling you that ebay and/or paypal are dangerous for bitcoin-selling. If you are blind for these dangers because you're just after the profits, fine. But if you are taking the risk (either because you want it or because you are uninformed) then it is also your fault if you are making a loss.
The world isn't black and white. People also need to see their own faults.
With regard do personal details of a scammer: Publication of their personal data is illegal, after all it is personal data. Some person claiming the person to be a scammer doesn't make them one. This other person could perhaps claim the same. Just hearing one side of a story is always just part of the story.
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March 05, 2012, 04:03:18 PM |
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I can't say I feel sorry for you. Nor should anyone else.
Your first sentence on the OP described it very well!
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BlueCorp
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March 05, 2012, 04:08:54 PM |
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How would you know scammer used another person information and it's not even theirs
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March 05, 2012, 04:24:13 PM |
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Ebay is evil
Ebay isn't evil. People making stupid choices doesn't make ebay evil. Ebay has been pretty consistent. If you sell digital goods without proof of transfer then ebay is going to side the with buyer. Maybe unfair but it is stupid for people to keep trying in the face of that policy. Just got me a nice 24 port gigabit switch for $39 on ebay. That can't be evil.  |
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BlueCorp
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March 05, 2012, 04:27:18 PM |
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A google search will tell if the information is real?
And also why do you need a 24 port gigabit switch
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Raoul Duke
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March 05, 2012, 04:30:38 PM |
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A google search will tell if the information is real?
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck should we think it's a chicken? In this forum alone there are more than 3000 results mentioning the keywords I used... Also: You walk like a duck and quack like a duck...  |
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March 05, 2012, 04:43:41 PM |
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I'm a person.
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