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A second source has confirmed that JP Morgan Chase has asked each of its employees whether they are “an ally of the LGBT community,” which employees have taken as a veiled threat. Each year JP Morgan Chase sends its employees a survey asking questions related to management and other non-controversial issues. A longtime Chase employee told Professor Robert George of Princeton that the survey this year included the following questions for the first time: Are you: 1) A person with disabilities; 2) A person with children with disabilities; 3) A person with a spouse/domestic partner with disabilities; 4) A member of the LGBT community. 5) An ally of the LGBT community, but not personally identifying as LGBT.This employee was alarmed to receive the final question. If he answered no, he feared, he would be opened up to criticism that may affect his employment. Only a few months ago Brendan Eich was hounded out of the CEO role at Mozilla for not supporting LGBT marriage.The employee told Professor George he fears for his job: This survey wasn't anonymous. You had to enter your employee ID. With the way things are going and the fact that LGBT rights are being viewed as pretty much tantamount to the civil rights movement of the mid 50s to late 60s, not selecting that option is essentially saying "I'm not an ally of civil rights;" which is a vague way to say "I'm a bigot." The worry among many of us is that those who didn't select that poorly placed, irrelevant option will be placed on the "you can fire these people first" list. After posting the item on the law blog Mirror of Justice, Professor George received skeptical emails and Facebook postings, so he came back to Mirror of Justice with a second source. This source told him, “I just wanted to confirm the Chase employee survey. It did have the last two options about being an LBGT ally. I have worked for Chase for [a number of] years and was blown away by this question. I have no idea what they were thinking when they asked that. If this is posted, please spare my identity.” Breitbart News contacted the media relations office of JP Morgan Chase, and spokesman Loretta Russo said, “We do not comment on internal surveys.” http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/01/Chase-Bank-Revealed-as-Bank-Hounding-Employees-about-LGBT-Support---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be docile so the pink mafia can leave you alone ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FculNxDr.png&t=665&c=xtjMGfVM-kaz9Q)
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July 02, 2014, 05:21:39 PM |
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"I don't discuss politics at work." ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 02, 2014, 11:10:15 PM |
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"Do you support the extermination of the LGBT community" as 5, that would have been clearer for both the surveyor and the surveyed. Especially if they answered yes to 4 and 5.
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Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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July 03, 2014, 04:50:21 AM |
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Regardless of your opinion on the LGBT community, everyone must agree a poll from your employer regarding your sexual preference is a bit creepy.
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July 03, 2014, 04:54:08 AM |
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Regardless of your opinion on the LGBT community, everyone must agree a poll from your employer regarding your sexual preference is a bit creepy.
That is fucking creepy for sure, even though it's clearly politically motivated it's a bit like if an employer asked female employees whether they were single or not through an internal poll using the poll as an excuse lol ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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July 03, 2014, 11:47:25 AM |
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Well it's a good thing all those banks CEOs went to jail thanks to Obama for their involvement in the financial crisis! Now we'll have more ethical people running banks. wait for it...... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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July 03, 2014, 05:50:25 PM |
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Wasting time on non-issues.
Didn't all the bank done enough damage already?
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July 03, 2014, 06:11:10 PM |
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banks should call their own lobby "united banks of america." they should thank their customers "for their service."
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July 03, 2014, 06:36:57 PM |
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A second source has confirmed that JP Morgan Chase has asked each of its employees whether they are “an ally of the LGBT community,” which employees have taken as a veiled threat. Each year JP Morgan Chase sends its employees a survey asking questions related to management and other non-controversial issues. A longtime Chase employee told Professor Robert George of Princeton that the survey this year included the following questions for the first time: Are you: 1) A person with disabilities; 2) A person with children with disabilities; 3) A person with a spouse/domestic partner with disabilities; 4) A member of the LGBT community. 5) An ally of the LGBT community, but not personally identifying as LGBT.This employee was alarmed to receive the final question. If he answered no, he feared, he would be opened up to criticism that may affect his employment. Only a few months ago Brendan Eich was hounded out of the CEO role at Mozilla for not supporting LGBT marriage.The employee told Professor George he fears for his job: This survey wasn't anonymous. You had to enter your employee ID. With the way things are going and the fact that LGBT rights are being viewed as pretty much tantamount to the civil rights movement of the mid 50s to late 60s, not selecting that option is essentially saying "I'm not an ally of civil rights;" which is a vague way to say "I'm a bigot." The worry among many of us is that those who didn't select that poorly placed, irrelevant option will be placed on the "you can fire these people first" list. After posting the item on the law blog Mirror of Justice, Professor George received skeptical emails and Facebook postings, so he came back to Mirror of Justice with a second source. This source told him, “I just wanted to confirm the Chase employee survey. It did have the last two options about being an LBGT ally. I have worked for Chase for [a number of] years and was blown away by this question. I have no idea what they were thinking when they asked that. If this is posted, please spare my identity.” Breitbart News contacted the media relations office of JP Morgan Chase, and spokesman Loretta Russo said, “We do not comment on internal surveys.” http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/01/Chase-Bank-Revealed-as-Bank-Hounding-Employees-about-LGBT-Support---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be docile so the pink mafia can leave you alone ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FculNxDr.png&t=665&c=xtjMGfVM-kaz9Q) That is indeed both a stupid survey question, and an implicitly threatening one. Trying to find a comparable here. If you were hiring, you would be I think doing something against the law if you asked questions about sexual orientation, because that clearly could influence the hiring process. Is asking the same question to employees off limits? Seems to me like it would be. It would take a call to EEOC to find out.
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July 03, 2014, 07:23:47 PM |
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A second source has confirmed that JP Morgan Chase has asked each of its employees whether they are “an ally of the LGBT community,” which employees have taken as a veiled threat. Each year JP Morgan Chase sends its employees a survey asking questions related to management and other non-controversial issues. A longtime Chase employee told Professor Robert George of Princeton that the survey this year included the following questions for the first time: Are you: 1) A person with disabilities; 2) A person with children with disabilities; 3) A person with a spouse/domestic partner with disabilities; 4) A member of the LGBT community. 5) An ally of the LGBT community, but not personally identifying as LGBT.This employee was alarmed to receive the final question. If he answered no, he feared, he would be opened up to criticism that may affect his employment. Only a few months ago Brendan Eich was hounded out of the CEO role at Mozilla for not supporting LGBT marriage.The employee told Professor George he fears for his job: This survey wasn't anonymous. You had to enter your employee ID. With the way things are going and the fact that LGBT rights are being viewed as pretty much tantamount to the civil rights movement of the mid 50s to late 60s, not selecting that option is essentially saying "I'm not an ally of civil rights;" which is a vague way to say "I'm a bigot." The worry among many of us is that those who didn't select that poorly placed, irrelevant option will be placed on the "you can fire these people first" list. After posting the item on the law blog Mirror of Justice, Professor George received skeptical emails and Facebook postings, so he came back to Mirror of Justice with a second source. This source told him, “I just wanted to confirm the Chase employee survey. It did have the last two options about being an LBGT ally. I have worked for Chase for [a number of] years and was blown away by this question. I have no idea what they were thinking when they asked that. If this is posted, please spare my identity.” Breitbart News contacted the media relations office of JP Morgan Chase, and spokesman Loretta Russo said, “We do not comment on internal surveys.” http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/01/Chase-Bank-Revealed-as-Bank-Hounding-Employees-about-LGBT-Support---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be docile so the pink mafia can leave you alone ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FculNxDr.png&t=665&c=xtjMGfVM-kaz9Q) That is indeed both a stupid survey question, and an implicitly threatening one. Trying to find a comparable here. If you were hiring, you would be I think doing something against the law if you asked questions about sexual orientation, because that clearly could influence the hiring process. Is asking the same question to employees off limits? Seems to me like it would be. It would take a call to EEOC to find out. I don't know about US law but in Canada its illegal to ask such questions. Hell, its even illegal for employers here to ask you to take a drug test. haha.. Unless of course you operate dangerous equipment or being intoxicated can endanger you on the job.
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July 03, 2014, 07:48:32 PM |
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Are you: 1) A person with disabilities; 2) A person with children with disabilities; 3) A person with a spouse/domestic partner with disabilities; 4) A member of the LGBT community. 5) An ally of the LGBT community, but not personally identifying as LGBT.
What's the point of asking these questions to employees? Why would the bank directors want to know this?
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July 03, 2014, 08:31:02 PM |
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Sound to me like they are looking for an excuse to promote a company stance, while I disagree with LGBT Communities (as in associations and organisation) in general as I disagree with some of their demands, I still believe that LGBT community (people) deserve all respect as they are humain being like any of us
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July 03, 2014, 11:26:16 PM |
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Are you: 1) A person with disabilities; 2) A person with children with disabilities; 3) A person with a spouse/domestic partner with disabilities; 4) A member of the LGBT community. 5) An ally of the LGBT community, but not personally identifying as LGBT.
What's the point of asking these questions to employees? Why would the bank directors want to know this? I'm still trying to define what bothers me about this. Here an attempt. 1. I have good friends who are gay or lesbian. 2. The political effort that supposedly represents "LGBT community" is as often as not totally disgusting, and is totally a shill for socialist agendas. If I answer to question 5, Yes, because of #1, they can misrepresent my position as #2. Meanwhile, Chase is one of the banks that's cutting of bank accounts of porn stars? WTF? Perhaps this was a well intentioned but stupid attempt to see if they could represent their company to the public as "allies of the LGBT community". Marketing, of course, but that would be inconsistent with freezing porn stars accounts. And yet again, it makes no sens.e
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July 03, 2014, 11:54:36 PM |
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FUCK LGBT or whatever they think.
What, anybody who 'thinks and feel with their heart' to be right is supposed to be right these days?
What a fucking joke this is....get it together people. Ain't none of your business thinking deviance from something as naturally discriminatory as human biology and evolution is something anyone should acknowledge. Just be grateful you have the civil liberty to not be brought to gallows for it after being correctively raped.
Incredibly inane to regard this as 'civil rights'. Just like gays to try and piggy back like a bitch on another bandwagon for their own personal purposes. This kind of asinine ignorance should not be allowed to masquerade as progress.
World and especially human nature does not revolve around, and are certainly not redefined by your petty feelings. Why give so much credit to a bunch of sexually inadequate and immature confused children? I can make exactly the same kind of argument for raping and violating every indian bitches i come across, and I would sound a whole lot more convincing and 'progressive' for it.
This is some fool's errand. Tell the employees to take collective action and fuck some gay up in the management.
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July 04, 2014, 12:53:17 AM |
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