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April 21, 2017, 02:05:21 PM
Last edit: April 21, 2017, 02:21:08 PM by roast
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Yah,  you guys should really make a bootstrap file available for dl. i keep having to do the resync lately and i have to shut down all other processes on that system for like a day.  btw your website is down now..  hope it's because many are interested in navcoin now.  let's get this segwit thing done on nav while the chinese miners are still jerking around with ltc!
Are you using wallet version 4.0.1.1? There were issues with 4.0 and 4.0.1, but 4.0.1.1 has been working seamlessly with no mention of a need for bootstrapping. My suggestion is to let the wallet sync itself. It is pretty quick now.
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April 21, 2017, 05:36:16 PM
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i agree , 4.0.1.1 wallet sync was really fast!!  Smiley we can wait segwit shapeshift and mobile wallets..+ other stuff for nav... Roll Eyes Grin

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April 23, 2017, 07:12:33 PM
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Anyone knows anything about the European Commission’s intention to ban anonymous cryptocurrencies??

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April 23, 2017, 07:54:39 PM
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JUST LOL  Grin Grin Grin

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April 23, 2017, 09:09:45 PM
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PS:
If one of the experienced users with wallet 4, wanted to send the output of the command:
getblock 69fb3392a4bcf11fe75ceb0f0d1aeb8fcbc0e63267696910f82c72dfc91378ba true

It could be useful for verification of the various "time".



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getblock 69fb3392a4bcf11fe75ceb0f0d1aeb8fcbc0e63267696910f82c72dfc91378ba true



Thank you very much, it's nice to know that there is someone who can
see and understand what's behind the numbers.

What I write now, it's just to close it, and it's long and boring, I'm sorry.

The data you provided gave me a first confirmation, I needed more details, so I
searched for them directly on the block explorer, but the result seemed
incomplete, but it's not a cryptoid problem, but instead of what the NavCoin
daemon communicates to it.

To shorten the time, I downloaded the executable version of the wallet 4.0.1.1
for linux, and put it into a virtualbox. I proceeded to sync, and also activated
the transaction index with txindex=1, in order to retrieve the data needed
for each transaction.

When the wallet came back to work, I requested the data from the third
transaction of that block:
getrawtransaction 3955fabb08e6f54ac4f9ef35f043e5ce465a49974495f2d9d6ea8f453775ca5d 1
{
  "hex": "01000000c3fff5580298b2eb6f74d607d641f01f197ffcbce9e344d880a461a27e4805dfb03f ...cut...
  "txid": "3955fabb08e6f54ac4f9ef35f043e5ce465a49974495f2d9d6ea8f453775ca5d",
  "hash": "3955fabb08e6f54ac4f9ef35f043e5ce465a49974495f2d9d6ea8f453775ca5d",
  "size": 376,
  "vsize": 376,
  "version": 1,
  "locktime": 975858,
  "anon-destination": "",
  ...cut...
  "blockhash": "69fb3392a4bcf11fe75ceb0f0d1aeb8fcbc0e63267696910f82c72dfc91378ba",
  "height": 975860,
  "confirmations": 14603,
  "time": 1492516800,
  "blocktime": 1492516800
}

As you can see, time and blocktime are the same, but at least in this case is wrong.
To me the old wallet 3 shows another "time", that is specific for each transaction.

If you look in "hex" string, starting from byte 5 to 9, you can find the real
value of the of the transaction's time field, which once turned and translated
into decimal becomes:
c3fff558 -> 0x58f5ffc3 ->  1492516803

So, how as wanted to demonstrate, in the block it has been incorporated (and
validated) a transaction, which from the point of view of the blockchain it has
been generated in a time subsequent to that of the block which contains it.

This is an event that the set of rules of NavCoin 2 blockchain reject,
but that the new wallet 4, accepted and made permanent by creating a
different fork.
Now that block is part of the Wallet4 fork story, it can not be remedied.

The fact that the getrawtransaction or decoderawtransaction command of
wallet 4 does not report the specific time of the transaction is not
surprising if we consider everything.

The Nav wallet 4 code comes from bitcoincore 0.13, and the internal format
of the transaction structure that it uses does not have a specific field
for time, whereas the Time field is very much used in the case of Nav wallets
and other coins based on POS.

The issue that the wallet 4 does not show a data like the transaction Time,
can make some controls much more complicated to do, but this issue can easily
be fixed in the code.

...

For experiment, I tried to see if making the old wallet 3 more "tolerant" to
that rule which was violated, it would be able to get back to the fork of
wallet 4, even using other new checkpoints to force it.

After many hours of resynchronization, finally the mod wallet 3 has pass that
block and go on... but after a while it stumbled into other blocks which it could
not accept for other reasons.

I read on Forum from "external" sources that has already been fixed the day of
passage to SegWit, so I think every extra effort to make compatible the old wallet 3
is now just a waste of time.

Some of the statistics I have shown here in the past were in part generated
with the help of some routines that were integrated into the code of a personal
version of the wallet 3.7, which now they can no longer work.

Unlucky I do not have the time to do all the code migration (and cross-check)
that would be needed, so I think I will not be able to do controls and statistics
as in the past, I'm sorry guys.  Cry

Some of routines have become obsolete, and other information can also be
found now on the official block explorer, so this is not a great loss.

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April 23, 2017, 09:18:33 PM
Last edit: April 23, 2017, 09:31:10 PM by capitomil
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Can someone tell me if my navcoins are safe if I have created the addresses with NAV Electrum wallet? Oh should I install a new version of the wallet and move all the coins again?
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April 24, 2017, 06:01:19 AM
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Can someone tell me if my navcoins are safe if I have created the addresses with NAV Electrum wallet? Oh should I install a new version of the wallet and move all the coins again?


Check your address at the block explorer. It can show all transactions and current balance on the 4.x blockchain. If it looks accurate you are OK


@Remy
Thanks for the detailed info. I think no more effort should be spent on the 3.x branch. We just need the 4.x electrum wallet and encourage everyone to upgrade.

It might be a good idea for future versions to have some means of sending info to clients. Like some banner that can be updated with news so the devs can urge people to upgrade even if they don't follow the forums/slack

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April 24, 2017, 10:39:41 AM
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Hello guys,

Can someone please tell me how much NAV do I need to have a stake for a day?
How much will stake, is a fixed or a variable amount?

thx in advance!
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April 24, 2017, 10:46:49 AM
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Can someone tell me if my navcoins are safe if I have created the addresses with NAV Electrum wallet? Oh should I install a new version of the wallet and move all the coins again?


Check your address at the block explorer. It can show all transactions and current balance on the 4.x blockchain. If it looks accurate you are OK


Yes bspus, my balance appears in https://chainz.cryptoid.info/nav/ So I can rest calm.
Thank You
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April 24, 2017, 11:05:46 AM
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Hello guys,

Can someone please tell me how much NAV do I need to have a stake for a day?
How much will stake, is a fixed or a variable amount?

thx in advance!

Purely from experience it seems that very roughly you stake about 1 coin for every 10000 you have in your wallet every day.

The amount is variable and varies quite a lot too

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April 24, 2017, 01:08:50 PM
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Hello guys,

Can someone please tell me how much NAV do I need to have a stake for a day?
How much will stake, is a fixed or a variable amount?

thx in advance!

Purely from experience it seems that very roughly you stake about 1 coin for every 10000 you have in your wallet every day.

The amount is variable and varies quite a lot too


Thx bspus!

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April 24, 2017, 05:59:22 PM
Last edit: April 24, 2017, 06:21:30 PM by dolores12
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devs start segwit  test http://navcoin.org/segwit/ in the next 48 hours we will have the new wallet ...with the segwit option  Grin Grin Cheesy also shapeshift will come soon  Grin Grin Cheesy i will think to sale a few % of my holdings at 80 cent  Smiley

THERE WILL BE ......
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April 24, 2017, 06:37:41 PM
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devs start segwit  test http://navcoin.org/segwit/ in the next 48 hours we will have the new wallet ...with the segwit option  Grin Grin Cheesy also shapeshift will come soon  Grin Grin Cheesy i will think to sale a few % of my holdings at 80 cent  Smiley
wow if this test will become successful we will seeing the price to really skyhigh better to hold while the test still ongoing
better to start buying and wait for the full implementations. Nav its on the way..

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April 24, 2017, 08:05:53 PM
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devs start segwit  test http://navcoin.org/segwit/ in the next 48 hours we will have the new wallet ...with the segwit option  Grin Grin Cheesy also shapeshift will come soon  Grin Grin Cheesy i will think to sale a few % of my holdings at 80 cent  Smiley

Im gonna get me a new Macbook Pro when it reaches 1 dollar Cheesy
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April 24, 2017, 08:30:49 PM
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New Tutorial and Guide



Hello all,

Tutorial
I added a new video to the Stakebox tutorials. In this video the update process is explained. Updating is very fast and easy.
The video can be found at https://navtechservers.com/tutorials/navpi/ or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiH1-SlixD8


Guide
With SegWit around the corner I have dedicated a page to give more information about SegWit. Have a look at https://navtechservers.com/guides/segwit/.


Have a good week!



Raspberry Pi 3, Nav Coin Stakebox Tutorial

Hello all!

I have created a series of 3 videos so far explaining how to setup a Nav Coin stakebox. I have done this on Windows 10 so there might be minor differences on different operation systems.

Why do you need the Nav Coin stakebox?
The Nav Coin stakebox is a very easy and cheap way to earn stake rewards. You do not need a computer running 24/7. The Raspberry Pi is very energy efficient.
It is fun to have the stakebox running. You can easily connect to it on any device in your network simply through your browser to your Stakebox's IP. This way you can keep an eye on your staking process.

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April 25, 2017, 04:35:50 AM
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FYI, the "NAV COIN PROJECTS" link in the OP is 404 to the coin site.

BTC: 1F8yJqgjeFyX1SX6KJmqYtHiHXJA89ENNT
LTC: LYAEPQeDDM7Y4jbUH2AwhBmkzThAGecNBV
DOGE: DSUsCCdt98PcNgUkFHLDFdQXmPrQBEqXu9
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April 25, 2017, 10:03:35 AM
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devs start segwit  test http://navcoin.org/segwit/ in the next 48 hours we will have the new wallet ...with the segwit option  Grin Grin Cheesy also shapeshift will come soon  Grin Grin Cheesy i will think to sale a few % of my holdings at 80 cent  Smiley
wow if this test will become successful we will seeing the price to really skyhigh better to hold while the test still ongoing
better to start buying and wait for the full implementations. Nav its on the way..

Wallet vote segwit just beginning, it can use for other votes too. More people buy NAV to stake (earn coin) and also vote at the same time for their right. One stone kill two birds. More people stake less selling more buying the rest you know.
Then coming soon there is Navtech ADAPPs follow by Polymorph. These two big one will further bring NAV to another level.

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April 25, 2017, 01:32:36 PM
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Is there any online staking for NAV?

edit: Nevermind. I already found it.
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April 25, 2017, 06:49:12 PM
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https://twitter.com/KolesCoinNews/status/856844336436322306
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segwit activation on May 1 will affect its price for sure,,
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