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November 15, 2014, 07:55:46 PM
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Hmmm... It's probably my fault. Last night I changed my computer motherboard and ill have set the system clock.

My address sYda5naMuzKRKnLeGaFaF1VMtxzKyji5CF

Sorry Embarrassed

Staking seems to have returned.

But I am really surprised that a wrong system clock on a single wallet can have such an effect.

I sure hope there is a way to eliminate it. Just think what could happen if a user maliciously tried to exploit this

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November 15, 2014, 08:34:06 PM
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Hmmm... It's probably my fault. Last night I changed my computer motherboard and ill have set the system clock.

My address sYda5naMuzKRKnLeGaFaF1VMtxzKyji5CF

Sorry Embarrassed

Staking seems to have returned.

But I am really surprised that a wrong system clock on a single wallet can have such an effect.

I sure hope there is a way to eliminate it. Just think what could happen if a user maliciously tried to exploit this

First thing I thought of too.....seems like a pretty serious security hole that needs to be fixed no?


EDIT - How about having the wallet pull the time from an online source rather than the pc it is on?  Just thinking out loud.
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November 15, 2014, 11:36:27 PM
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Staking seems to have returned.

But I am really surprised that a wrong system clock on a single wallet can have such an effect.

I sure hope there is a way to eliminate it. Just think what could happen if a user maliciously tried to exploit this

First thing I thought of too.....seems like a pretty serious security hole that needs to be fixed no?



You're both right, and it's already happened in fact, I think they were called TimeBomb.

I do not remember the details, so sorry for the great inaccuracy, but something related to the negative
time of the block, and the mechanism of Difficulty, it's already happened in the past to philosopherstone long
ago and Tek few weeks ago.

In those cases a malicious block originated in the "past", had set up the Pos-Diff to the stars and it was almost
impossible to generate a new block POS.
Those coins were still usable because they were hybrid POW / POS, and the POW has not been
affected and has kept alive the coin until their Dev applied a patch to PosDif.

It seems to me, that a different fate befallen to another currency (BC or WC can not remember),
that even before the previous cases (or perhaps the first ever to suffer from this problem) had been
attacked in the same manner, and being only POS had been badly damaged remains completely paralyzed,
and has required a lot of time and work to be started again.

From this kind of problem more serious, NavajoCoin is already vaccinated, the source code limits the problem
of the times negative, the most harmful.

So the maximum we can suffer is the inverse, it is an excess of blocks, just as we have just experienced,
followed by a scarcity of blocks due to the fact that in the meantime, many users have produced stakes,
and then have groups of coins immature.
But thanks to the minimum time of stakes of 2 hours, the stream of blocks stabilizes a bit at a time in a short time.

(I can guess for a while there will be a bit of "elastics effect" until the Diff and CoinAge will settle again.)

As you can see there is a evolution, and recent wallet learn from the problems of the oldest.
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November 16, 2014, 12:43:22 AM
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Staking seems to have returned.

But I am really surprised that a wrong system clock on a single wallet can have such an effect.

I sure hope there is a way to eliminate it. Just think what could happen if a user maliciously tried to exploit this

First thing I thought of too.....seems like a pretty serious security hole that needs to be fixed no?



You're both right, and it's already happened in fact, I think they were called TimeBomb.

I do not remember the details, so sorry for the great inaccuracy, but something related to the negative
time of the block, and the mechanism of Difficulty, it's already happened in the past to philosopherstone long
ago and Tek few weeks ago.

In those cases a malicious block originated in the "past", had set up the Pos-Diff to the stars and it was almost
impossible to generate a new block POS.
Those coins were still usable because they were hybrid POW / POS, and the POW has not been
affected and has kept alive the coin until their Dev applied a patch to PosDif.

It seems to me, that a different fate befallen to another currency (BC or WC can not remember),
that even before the previous cases (or perhaps the first ever to suffer from this problem) had been
attacked in the same manner, and being only POS had been badly damaged remains completely paralyzed,
and has required a lot of time and work to be started again.

From this kind of problem more serious, NavajoCoin is already vaccinated, the source code limits the problem
of the times negative, the most harmful.

So the maximum we can suffer is the inverse, it is an excess of blocks, just as we have just experienced,
followed by a scarcity of blocks due to the fact that in the meantime, many users have produced stakes,
and then have groups of coins immature.
But thanks to the minimum time of stakes of 2 hours, the stream of blocks stabilizes a bit at a time in a short time.

(I can guess for a while there will be a bit of "elastics effect" until the Diff and CoinAge will settle again.)

As you can see there is a evolution, and recent wallet learn from the problems of the oldest.


if that's the case, will staking stop to a halt if more people have the wrong system time?
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November 16, 2014, 02:16:12 AM
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Hi everyone, thanks for bringing this to our attention. We are now in the process of investigating the issue and resolving it.

Once we have identified the issue and solved the cause, we will release a patch to prevent it from occurring again in the future. We aim to get this done as soon as humanly possible.

We do apologise for any staking that people may have missed out on. Be assured that this will have been a reasonably small amount of coins and the problem will be fixed very shortly.

Myself and Soopy are on the case.

All the best,
Pakage.



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November 16, 2014, 05:26:31 AM
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Hello Everyone,

We currently in the progress of investigating the blockchain and the source code , hopefully everything should be in order , Remy as well as the Core Development team is working closely and in discussion to add a few incentives to the lovely stakers and has come up with a brilliant idea and a campaigned proposed and interactively discussed by Remy which is under discussion on implementation.

Meanwhile open up your wallets and keep on staking those lovely NAVs! Smiley

Sucess!
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November 16, 2014, 06:20:51 AM
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Hello Everyone,

We currently in the progress of investigating the blockchain and the source code , hopefully everything should be in order , Remy as well as the Core Development team is working closely and in discussion to add a few incentives to the lovely stakers and has come up with a brilliant idea and a campaigned proposed and interactively discussed by Remy which is under discussion on implementation.

Meanwhile open up your wallets and keep on staking those lovely NAVs! Smiley

Sucess!
~SoopY~



Thanks SoopY for looking into this!
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November 16, 2014, 07:28:13 AM
Last edit: November 16, 2014, 07:40:11 AM by hashforce101
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Great to see the issue will be permanently fixed. As you can see compared to other Crypto coins NavajoCoin has a Development Team that communicates and informs its community and fixes its issues.  This is becoming very rare in the Crypto scene. Issues will happen to every coin from time to time!

So grab the cheap coins while you can! Lucky a few are grabbing cheap coins already.

I will buy up anything left under 400 Sats on Tuesday! http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141118T0930&p0=240&msg=NAV+Buy+Up


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November 16, 2014, 08:06:48 AM
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http://preev.com/

Nice! Things a looking better on BTC . Going Up now $395.3
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November 16, 2014, 10:03:20 AM
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http://preev.com/

Nice! Things a looking better on BTC . Going Up now $395.3

yeah indeed. also positive is that the altcoin market was a complete bloodbath the last weeks but nav didnt go down.

 
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November 16, 2014, 01:59:02 PM
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This development team works well and fast!  Buying anything under 400 satoshi is a major deal!
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November 16, 2014, 05:06:58 PM
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This development team works well and fast!  Buying anything under 400 satoshi is a major deal!
This is an IMPORTANT coin.

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November 16, 2014, 05:45:01 PM
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Official Announcement - Navajo Coin Faucet Release



Dear Navajo Coin Community!

We are pleased to announce that Navajo Coin Faucet is now live!
You can use it on our website, here:

http://navajocoin.org/faucet

Please remember to donate to NAV Faucet address to keep it running nicely! Wink


FAUCET ADDRESS:
sRvRH5f1wVw252rrMyiP4afMcnvMyXhFLa





Enjoy using NAV Faucet!
Thank You all for Your great support and stay tuned for more Navajo Coin news! Smiley

- Navajo Coin Development Team





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November 16, 2014, 06:10:54 PM
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Official Announcement - Navajo Coin Faucet Release



Dear Navajo Coin Community!

We are pleased to announce that Navajo Coin Faucet is now live!
You can use it on our website, here:

http://navajocoin.org/faucet

Please remember to donate to NAV Faucet address to keep it running nicely! Wink


FAUCET ADDRESS:
sRvRH5f1wVw252rrMyiP4afMcnvMyXhFLa





Enjoy using NAV Faucet!
Thank You all for Your great support and stay tuned for more Navajo Coin news! Smiley

- Navajo Coin Development Team





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nice you should write this up as a press release and send it to me to place in our publication

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November 16, 2014, 06:17:32 PM
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nice you should write this up as a press release and send it to me to place in our publication

Hello!
We will surely stay in touch and prepare a press release for You soon.
Thank You for Your kind offer!
Cheers Smiley

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November 16, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
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Amazing job Dev Team!I am so pround to be here!
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November 16, 2014, 06:41:34 PM
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Time for shopping. I will raise the price a little bit up  Wink
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November 16, 2014, 06:50:09 PM
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Time for shopping. I will raise the price a little bit up  Wink

very good Smiley as long as you get some cheap Cheesy
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November 16, 2014, 07:14:53 PM
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great, thanks for the update. I have send 2500 coins to the faucet wallet.

cheers

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November 16, 2014, 07:15:40 PM
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Great to see the issue will be permanently fixed. As you can see compared to other Crypto coins NavajoCoin has a Development Team that communicates and informs its community and fixes its issues.  This is becoming very rare in the Crypto scene. Issues will happen to every coin from time to time!

So grab the cheap coins while you can! Lucky a few are grabbing cheap coins already.

I will buy up anything left under 400 Sats on Tuesday! http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141118T0930&p0=240&msg=NAV+Buy+Up


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hashforce will buy all under 400s so if somebody no want keep it more time is good time to sell him.
I will buy some too on Tuesday under 400s to join with my limited bits on this event.
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