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July 13, 2014, 02:02:53 AM |
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It feels like a showdown between Stealth and Shield. Shield is winning right now, but does the coin actually offer any anonymity at the moment, or is everybody buying it based on what the dev says he's going to do? Why wouldn't you implement that stuff first, THEN put the coin out? Anybody can put together some ideas...but at the end of the day...they are just that...ideas. So why is everyone flocking to a coin based on some future promises, from some unknown dev? At least Stealth has Tor. Am I missing something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Shield is pure hyped, it got hyped on twitter by the famous whales etc. They came with a shitty whitepaper which was just a copy/paste of the internet. They dont have anon working or anything. Stealthcoin had its network over TOR already implemented before it hit bittrex. And they are being 100% transparant. I am not looking at this like a sort of game who is winning or who is losing, its not about that. I hope for the people who invested in Shieldcoin that they will solve the issues and succeed as well. Like i said its not about having a competition here who's better or not - make your own opinion. I agree...it's not a game, but I have to assume that if Shield didn't come out at the same time...Stealth would be where Shield is and then some. I'm all for innovation but I feel it's best to implement those things into your coin before you release it, otherwise it's just a coin with promises. Those promises may very well come and I guess that's the chance people are willing to take. If I'm looking for an anon coin though, I'm going to pick the one that has anon implemented upon release. That shows me that the developers have skills...which in turn...can lead to even better things in the future.
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July 13, 2014, 02:16:41 AM |
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It feels like a showdown between Stealth and Shield. Shield is winning right now, but does the coin actually offer any anonymity at the moment, or is everybody buying it based on what the dev says he's going to do? Why wouldn't you implement that stuff first, THEN put the coin out? Anybody can put together some ideas...but at the end of the day...they are just that...ideas. So why is everyone flocking to a coin based on some future promises, from some unknown dev? At least Stealth has Tor. Am I missing something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Shield is dying volume and price seen copy/paste whitepaper incident, it is now 0.00029419 as i remembered a few hours ago was 0.0005900. stealth is picking up steam right now. Stealth marketcap $ 213,279 to Shield $ 201,181. Yes, Stealth is winning right now.
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July 13, 2014, 02:18:12 AM |
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![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) can this coin reach 10000satoshi?
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July 13, 2014, 02:20:15 AM |
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It feels like a showdown between Stealth and Shield. Shield is winning right now, but does the coin actually offer any anonymity at the moment, or is everybody buying it based on what the dev says he's going to do? Why wouldn't you implement that stuff first, THEN put the coin out? Anybody can put together some ideas...but at the end of the day...they are just that...ideas. So why is everyone flocking to a coin based on some future promises, from some unknown dev? At least Stealth has Tor. Am I missing something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Shield is dying volume and price seen copy/paste whitepaper incident, it is now 0.00029419 as i remembered a few hours ago was 0.0005900. stealth is picking up steam right now. Stealth marketcap $ 213,279 to Shield $ 201,181. Yes, Stealth is winning right now. SHLD vs XST is going on right now. 3.5k sats now are the target for XST I believe.
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July 13, 2014, 02:21:20 AM |
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![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) can this coin reach 10000satoshi? Probably, but you have to decide wether to be patient waiting or not. No one can predict the price movement of crypto assets. Now XST seems to have a good momentum to move forward price and volume wise.
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July 13, 2014, 02:33:13 AM |
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Has anyone news when will dedicated fix wallet issues ? I sent coins before or at the fork, and they never received the end adress... ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) They're lost, I did the same with about 5k coins. Coins that were mined before the fork are not lost, they were just sent on the wrong chain, this means that the pool can resync the wallet and get the coins back. I'm sure they wont tell you this fact themselves because, hey, free money. I hope Dedicated read this, and they will resync their wallet and recover our coins. I got around 3k stuck in that transaction. Please read this too pool.mn. The dev fucked up and the POW phase and it fucked plenty of people. Now he goes radio silent on all that lost out.
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July 13, 2014, 02:39:42 AM |
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Sorry boys, looks like a dead cat bounce to me... If your into this coin look for a entry point of around 0.00001100-0.00001000 or lower.
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July 13, 2014, 02:44:50 AM Last edit: July 13, 2014, 03:01:55 AM by brightlight |
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Has anyone news when will dedicated fix wallet issues ? I sent coins before or at the fork, and they never received the end adress... ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) They're lost, I did the same with about 5k coins. Coins that were mined before the fork are not lost, they were just sent on the wrong chain, this means that the pool can resync the wallet and get the coins back. I'm sure they wont tell you this fact themselves because, hey, free money. I hope Dedicated read this, and they will resync their wallet and recover our coins. I got around 3k stuck in that transaction. Please read this too pool.mn. The dev fucked up and the POW phase and it fucked plenty of people. Now he goes radio silent on all that lost out. Do you expect dev 24/7 wake up hours? Everyone involved into pools executed fork are whining now. I don't get it! Yes, coin had vulnerability in PoW phase, but devs warned pools about that in IRC. So, blame also pools as devs about that to not shut down the service and warn miners. What are the amounts lost due to fork at pools? A good move from devs could be to compensate those miners, who lost their hashes during the fork. But this is not obligatory movement, as devs did what they could in that situation. They responded as soon as possible. XST is not worse than SHLD or other coins, at least the transparency is on the good level. Coin2 also had attack twice. It survived, investors swallowed the max supply increase. This is example of good precedent. Now Coin2 has a future plan and everyone involved is waiting patiently.
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July 13, 2014, 03:27:55 AM |
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Sorry boys, looks like a dead cat bounce to me... If your into this coin look for a entry point of around 0.00001100-0.00001000 or lower.
you say this an yet even with the dump it only dropped to 1200 before recovering
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July 13, 2014, 03:30:13 AM |
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Sorry boys, looks like a dead cat bounce to me... If your into this coin look for a entry point of around 0.00001100-0.00001000 or lower.
Low post count, how do we know how smart you are regarding this? If anything your post is like a FUD account. I have a low post count, but I don't go around claiming to be an expert.
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July 13, 2014, 03:46:26 AM |
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Sorry boys, looks like a dead cat bounce to me... If your into this coin look for a entry point of around 0.00001100-0.00001000 or lower.
you say this an yet even with the dump it only dropped to 1200 before recovering 1255 it didnt touched 1200 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 13, 2014, 04:40:24 AM |
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i dont have any coin...
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July 13, 2014, 05:08:30 AM |
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i dont have any coin...
Well, you know what to do.
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July 13, 2014, 05:21:25 AM |
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Has anyone news when will dedicated fix wallet issues ? I sent coins before or at the fork, and they never received the end adress... ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) They're lost, I did the same with about 5k coins. Coins that were mined before the fork are not lost, they were just sent on the wrong chain, this means that the pool can resync the wallet and get the coins back. I'm sure they wont tell you this fact themselves because, hey, free money. I hope Dedicated read this, and they will resync their wallet and recover our coins. I got around 3k stuck in that transaction. Please read this too pool.mn. The dev fucked up and the POW phase and it fucked plenty of people. Now he goes radio silent on all that lost out. Do you expect dev 24/7 wake up hours? Everyone involved into pools executed fork are whining now. I don't get it! Yes, coin had vulnerability in PoW phase, but devs warned pools about that in IRC. So, blame also pools as devs about that to not shut down the service and warn miners. What are the amounts lost due to fork at pools? A good move from devs could be to compensate those miners, who lost their hashes during the fork. But this is not obligatory movement, as devs did what they could in that situation. They responded as soon as possible. XST is not worse than SHLD or other coins, at least the transparency is on the good level. Coin2 also had attack twice. It survived, investors swallowed the max supply increase. This is example of good precedent. Now Coin2 has a future plan and everyone involved is waiting patiently. Yes I lost 25k which pisses me off and the POW phase listed was no where near what happened. So yes the first blame is on the devs and secondly the mining pool admins.
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July 13, 2014, 06:30:36 AM |
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Has anyone news when will dedicated fix wallet issues ? I sent coins before or at the fork, and they never received the end adress... ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) They're lost, I did the same with about 5k coins. Coins that were mined before the fork are not lost, they were just sent on the wrong chain, this means that the pool can resync the wallet and get the coins back. I'm sure they wont tell you this fact themselves because, hey, free money. I hope Dedicated read this, and they will resync their wallet and recover our coins. I got around 3k stuck in that transaction. Please read this too pool.mn. The dev fucked up and the POW phase and it fucked plenty of people. Now he goes radio silent on all that lost out. Do you expect dev 24/7 wake up hours? Everyone involved into pools executed fork are whining now. I don't get it! Yes, coin had vulnerability in PoW phase, but devs warned pools about that in IRC. So, blame also pools as devs about that to not shut down the service and warn miners. What are the amounts lost due to fork at pools? A good move from devs could be to compensate those miners, who lost their hashes during the fork. But this is not obligatory movement, as devs did what they could in that situation. They responded as soon as possible. XST is not worse than SHLD or other coins, at least the transparency is on the good level. Coin2 also had attack twice. It survived, investors swallowed the max supply increase. This is example of good precedent. Now Coin2 has a future plan and everyone involved is waiting patiently. Yes I lost 25k which pisses me off and the POW phase listed was no where near what happened. So yes the first blame is on the devs and secondly the mining pool admins. Mining pools should be as much aware of 51% attack as coin developers. As I said, developers warned that they are suspicious of that. Why not shut down mining process at that moment? So many coins are forked in the past... Doesn't it play role to learn from. Pool operators know much about forking, this isn't first nor last happening. So, if this pisses you of, learn to be more calm in such situations. This is crypto world- wild wild west: trading, attacks, manipulations are the ingredients of that. If I would like to start blaming every coin dev I invested for his work done, undone or scam, I could be a black hole of angry emotions. What do you want to be done to fulfil your dissatisfaction?
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July 13, 2014, 07:10:07 AM |
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mac wallet works fine! tor ok! pos ok!![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi1357.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq744%2FEmilioMann%2FCapturadeTela2014-07-13a3000s040611_zpsd52d5aa5.png&t=665&c=w7f1nkvt2Kf8hA)
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July 13, 2014, 07:28:04 AM |
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Yes I lost 25k which pisses me off and the POW phase listed was no where near what happened. So yes the first blame is on the devs and secondly the mining pool admins.
We notified users of a potential fork immediately after it was detected. Seconds before that, we attempted to contact dedicated via their IRC channel. The StealthDevs are not responsible for mining pools. Our job is to make a functioning coin. Anyone who mines on a pool is at risk of mining on an orphan chain. That's a known caveat. Your issue is completely with your pool operator for continuing to mine on an orphan chain after he had been notified that the pool was on its own chain. In the future, please look at the record of your pool and mine on a pool that is attentive to the coins it is mining. Edit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681725.msg7784439#msg7784439
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July 13, 2014, 07:50:07 AM |
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Yes I lost 25k which pisses me off and the POW phase listed was no where near what happened. So yes the first blame is on the devs and secondly the mining pool admins.
We notified users of a potential fork immediately after it was detected. Seconds before that, we attempted to contact dedicated via their IRC channel. The StealthDevs are not responsible for mining pools. Our job is to make a functioning coin. Anyone who mines on a pool is at risk of mining on an orphan chain. That's a known caveat. Your issue is completely with your pool operator for continuing to mine on an orphan chain after he had been notified that the pool was on its own chain. In the future, please look at the record of your pool and mine on a pool that is attentive to the coins it is mining. Edit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681725.msg7784439#msg7784439Absolutely agree at this point!
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July 13, 2014, 08:00:41 AM |
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I am into other coins too but this was the first one I rented rigs to mine. So the way everything happened just sucks. Will be more cautious with what is said and what is actually done next time. Frustrated yes, will get over it of course, just makes me think twice before ever mining again.
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July 13, 2014, 08:19:10 AM |
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I am into other coins too but this was the first one I rented rigs to mine. So the way everything happened just sucks.  Will be more cautious with what is said and what is actually done next time.  Frustrated yes, will get over it of course, just makes me think twice before ever mining again.
There is risk in doing anything on cryto. Including mining. When u rent rig, u have to factor in unforeseen condition and have a plan if things don't go well.
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