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Author Topic: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx!  (Read 748500 times)
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September 14, 2014, 10:07:26 PM
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the 20% claim

What's the 20% claim that's bothering you?


Good luck...this guy struggles to get his point across I think...perhaps he is arguing with himself?

Yeah. Horrible fud. I think the quality is going down these days.


It's always happen but some times action give reaction... Why because we are in from the first day's we have seen it all before.
And now we protect Hondo........
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September 14, 2014, 10:07:37 PM
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the 20% claim

What's the 20% claim that's bothering you?


Wow, still don't know what we are talking about? This: PoS interest: 20% annually

Yeah. If you stake your coins, you get 20% annually.

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September 14, 2014, 10:09:36 PM
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the 20% claim

What's the 20% claim that's bothering you?


Wow, still don't know what we are talking about? This: PoS interest: 20% annually

And you MUS, read the BS explanation by Hondo, you MUST, before continuing posting, ok?

Also you MUST think a couple minutes, ok? 20% or 20 million would be 4 million; 20% of 24 million would be 4.8 million; 20% of 28.8 million would be 5.76m... and that's just in the first 3 years....

Also, do you know that the blockchain could be attacked (successfully) with just over 30% of the coins staking? So if 20% of the coins are staking (4 million), a successful 51% attack could take place by anyone controlling 1.2 million coins. Anything above that increases the chances of success with less tries. Anyone with 2 million and one coin will be mathematically successful on first try. And boom, the coin is destroyed.

Think a bit about this, ok. Then post if you find it inevitable.

Can we all ignore this guy now? He is clearly confused. I am worried that this rubbish will be perpetual if we keep explaining this to him.

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September 14, 2014, 10:11:27 PM
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the 20% claim

What's the 20% claim that's bothering you?


Wow, still don't know what we are talking about? This: PoS interest: 20% annually

And you MUS, read the BS explanation by Hondo, you MUST, before continuing posting, ok?

Also you MUST think a couple minutes, ok? 20% or 20 million would be 4 million; 20% of 24 million would be 4.8 million; 20% of 28.8 million would be 5.76m... and that's just in the first 3 years....

Also, do you know that the blockchain could be attacked (successfully) with just over 30% of the coins staking? So if 20% of the coins are staking (4 million), a successful 51% attack could take place by anyone controlling 1.2 million coins. Anything above that increases the chances of success with less tries. Anyone with 2 million and one coin will be mathematically successful on first try. And boom, the coin is destroyed.

Think a bit about this, ok. Then post if you find it inevitable.

That's the reason we are in.... Why we have Hondo....
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September 14, 2014, 10:11:44 PM
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the 20% claim

What's the 20% claim that's bothering you?


Wow, still don't know what we are talking about? This: PoS interest: 20% annually

And you MUS, read the BS explanation by Hondo, you MUST, before continuing posting, ok?

Also you MUST think a couple minutes, ok? 20% or 20 million would be 4 million; 20% of 24 million would be 4.8 million; 20% of 28.8 million would be 5.76m... and that's just in the first 3 years....

Also, do you know that the blockchain could be attacked (successfully) with just over 30% of the coins staking? So if 20% of the coins are staking (4 million), a successful 51% attack could take place by anyone controlling 1.2 million coins. Anything above that increases the chances of success with less tries. Anyone with 2 million and one coin will be mathematically successful on first try. And boom, the coin is destroyed.

Think a bit about this, ok. Then post if you find it inevitable.
I can read only this from barabbas : when I dump my XST coins no one panic dump to my cheap re-buy below 8500.
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September 14, 2014, 10:14:44 PM
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pretty dumbass to dump now when the devs already stated earlier they have more important news to announce later today
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September 14, 2014, 10:17:15 PM
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This coin is still very undervalued don't miss this space ship

"Man sends money out of Iran by Encrypted Text Message via Stealthcoin
Using Stealthtext technology developed by Stealthcoin. This user is able to send currency out of Iran with complete anonymity.

This will be the future for opressed countries and where governments cannot be trusted."


Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8b3_1410143623#mwveAQlT6xzBrA7K.99
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8b3_1410143623#

TOR + POS working flawlessly since the beginning (all other copy&paste this source code)

Stealthtext white paper: https://www.stealth-coin.com/wp-content/uploads/XST_stealthtext_whitepaper.pdf

Stealthsend white paper brief: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9200425/xst/Stealthsend_Whitepaper_brief0914.pdf

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September 14, 2014, 10:22:29 PM
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126 subscribers now. We need 200 subscribers to be added to the main alt coin reddit. Please subscribe. It takes 30 seconds.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stealthcoin

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September 14, 2014, 10:23:19 PM
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For all the real xst people when there is a troll after months we give no reaction.... We call only goodbye.....
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September 14, 2014, 10:38:34 PM
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For all the real xst people when there is a troll after months we give no reaction.... We call only goodbye.....
But sock puppets from IconicExpert and MsCollec are really annoying.
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September 14, 2014, 10:58:56 PM
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Keep holding your coins, dont sell it because
big things are coming until December and price will be 200k
You see there are so many dumpers dumping but value still 8500k to 9500k and stable
It means that this coin is valuable.
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September 14, 2014, 11:02:39 PM
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For all the real xst people when there is a troll after months we give no reaction.... We call only goodbye.....
But sock puppets from IconicExpert and MsCollec are really annoying.

After reviewing earlier posts.  This new fud crew seems lame compared to our old FUDsters.  Two months ago, there was at least some (new coin) doubts they could play on.  
These new FUDites are looking like Terminator 2 in the molten steel.   Thrashing about, throwing random FUD around, hoping it will stick to something, while they slowly fizzle out.
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September 14, 2014, 11:03:19 PM
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For all the real xst people when there is a troll after months we give no reaction.... We call only goodbye.....

as long as Hondo sticks around Stealthcoin will be in my wallet.
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September 14, 2014, 11:13:14 PM
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Hi all.. Umh..  Do you know CANN-coin?
Isnt this a great coin  Grin
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September 14, 2014, 11:14:17 PM
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For all the real xst people when there is a troll after months we give no reaction.... We call only goodbye.....

as long as Hondo sticks around Stealthcoin will be in my wallet.

This coin has promise. I will buy some. Smiley
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September 14, 2014, 11:21:38 PM
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the 20% claim

What's the 20% claim that's bothering you?


Wow, still don't know what we are talking about? This: PoS interest: 20% annually

And you MUS, read the BS explanation by Hondo, you MUST, before continuing posting, ok?

Also you MUST think a couple minutes, ok? 20% or 20 million would be 4 million; 20% of 24 million would be 4.8 million; 20% of 28.8 million would be 5.76m... and that's just in the first 3 years....

Also, do you know that the blockchain could be attacked (successfully) with just over 30% of the coins staking? So if 20% of the coins are staking (4 million), a successful 51% attack could take place by anyone controlling 1.2 million coins. Anything above that increases the chances of success with less tries. Anyone with 2 million and one coin will be mathematically successful on first try. And boom, the coin is destroyed.

Think a bit about this, ok. Then post if you find it inevitable.

Many will not stake their wallets, so that 20% is more like 10%.
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September 14, 2014, 11:27:43 PM
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the 20% claim

What's the 20% claim that's bothering you?


Wow, still don't know what we are talking about? This: PoS interest: 20% annually

And you MUS, read the BS explanation by Hondo, you MUST, before continuing posting, ok?

Also you MUST think a couple minutes, ok? 20% or 20 million would be 4 million; 20% of 24 million would be 4.8 million; 20% of 28.8 million would be 5.76m... and that's just in the first 3 years....

Also, do you know that the blockchain could be attacked (successfully) with just over 30% of the coins staking? So if 20% of the coins are staking (4 million), a successful 51% attack could take place by anyone controlling 1.2 million coins. Anything above that increases the chances of success with less tries. Anyone with 2 million and one coin will be mathematically successful on first try. And boom, the coin is destroyed.

Think a bit about this, ok. Then post if you find it inevitable.

Many will not stake their wallets, so that 20% is more like 10%.

My 19636 XST in july is 20003 now.  Maths out to about 12% yearly, in real life numbers.
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September 15, 2014, 12:46:45 AM
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PoS interest: 20% annually

Will this be changed at some point? Seems pretty high, especially compared to other PoS coins.

20% PoS leads to a 4-5% inflation rate. In other words, minters earn 20% but the money supply only increases at the rate of 5%. Hondo calls this phenomenon "fractional staking":

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Typically only about 25% of the money supply for a given Proof-of-Stake (PoS) coin is subject to continuous staking. This "fractional staking" leads to (1) gains for those who stake (minters) and (2) losses for those who don't (non-minters). Fractional staking therefore results in wealth transfer from non-minters to minters because inflation of the money supply is lower than it would be if the entirety of the money supply were continuosly staked.

To understand how wealth is transferred, it is helpful to quantify wealth as an individual's ownership of the total money supply of a given coin. For example, if an individual holds 1000 coins of a money supply of 100,000, then the individual's wealth is quantified as 1%.

The following example uses a 20% APY as an example because this value typically leads to a reasonable inflation rate of about 5% per year, given that all coins are subject to approximately the same fractional staking of 25%.

Note the following values:
  • Total money supply after 1 year: 105% (5% inflation)
  • Relative number of coins after one year for a minter: 120% (20% APY)
  • Relative number of coins after one year for a non-minter: 100%

Using these values, the relative wealth of a minter after one year is 114% (120% / 105%). In other words, a minter who stakes continuously grows wealth at the rate of 14% per year. Thus, a minter of a coin with a 20% APY doesn't just keep up with inflation, but beats it by 14%!

On the other hand, a non-minter loses wealth over time. After a year, a non-minter's total coins is 100% of what it was at the beginning of the year. Therefore, a non-minter's drops to 95.2% during this time, losing wealth at the rate of 5% per year.

It is also possible to calculate a non-minter's losses in terms of forgone profits, which is 19.7% ([114% - 95.2%] / 95.2%). Thus, a non-minter could have nearly 20% more wealth if they had staked their coins ([114% - 95.2%] / 95.2%). Not coincidentally, these lost profits are approximately equal to the nominal APY.

Thanks for clearing this up for me, I'll have to read through a few times to really understand it Smiley

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September 15, 2014, 01:21:24 AM
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Open Bazaar Update

Traders on underground “Dark” markets in the crypto-currency space face the constant risk of their marketplace of choice being shut down, and coins subsequently lost.

This risk is related to the centralization of these marketplaces. With this model, users face fees and regulations and must trust the platform itself. With abundant failed examples like Silk Road in the underground markets and Mt.Gox in the crypto-exchange sphere, it’s clear centralization is not the answer.

Fortunately, with peer-to-peer transactions made possible by cryptocurrencies, a truly decentralized platform is within reach.

Open Bazaar, an upcoming decentralized network for free commerce, is open-source and currently in beta. Sometime in December, we’re planning to launch our own iteration of Open Bazaar exclusive to StealthSend/StealthCoin.

Benefits of the Open Bazaar platform:


-Completely anonymous, if so desired (compatible with Tor and I2P)
-No fees
-”Reputation Pledges” based on proof-of-burn, a method by which crypto-currency is purposely destroyed to aid in establishing the one’s commitment to the platform.
-Trust Ratings
-Arbitration system & Ricardian Contracts Generator for special deals
-Encrypted messaging and chat

We’ve also been contacted about an upcoming article on one of the most prominent DarkNetMarkets media portals that will discuss StealthSend, and the future role of anonymous cryptocurrency in DarkNet marketplaces.

We look forward to serving our user’s interests in their privacy and their freedom to buy and sell goods online!

STEALTH | XST | stealth.org
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September 15, 2014, 01:23:51 AM
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Let's keep this group focused. To lurkers and potential XST-owners: These are the facts you need to know.

This coin is still very undervalued don't miss this space ship

"Man sends money out of Iran by Encrypted Text Message via Stealthcoin
Using Stealthtext technology developed by Stealthcoin. This user is able to send currency out of Iran with complete anonymity.

This will be the future for opressed countries and where governments cannot be trusted."


Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8b3_1410143623#mwveAQlT6xzBrA7K.99
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8b3_1410143623#

TOR + POS working flawlessly since the beginning (all other copy&paste this source code)

Stealthtext white paper: https://www.stealth-coin.com/wp-content/uploads/XST_stealthtext_whitepaper.pdf

Stealthsend white paper brief: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9200425/xst/Stealthsend_Whitepaper_brief0914.pdf

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9200425/xst/xst_roadmap_0914.png
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