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I've compiled some updated stats.
There are 1414 very-established users.
You need x ignores for... Warn: 5 Light: 8 Medium: 11 Dark: 15
I support the suggestion to make the range wider, and I'd even go so far as to make the highlighting scale directly with ignores. Something along the lines of R=255, G=255-<8*ignores>, B=255-<8*ignores>, resulting in a smooth gradient from 0-32 ignores, at which point it's maxed. It would start to become visible at 5, become obvious at 10, really start to jump out at around 15, and just continue to get darker until 32.
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September 16, 2012, 04:10:42 PM |
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Sorry theymos, but this has just been revealed to be an utterly useless feature for our community.
Study the folks who are "dark" (and we can set aside the racist undertones of that particular glitch!) and you will find the most interesting people in the community, and certain the most opinionated. Is our goal to have a milquetoast all vanilla community of quiet, polite followers? Or is the purpose of a Bitcoin forum to celebrate bitcoin and explore the very edges of what a paradigm shifting financial innovation it is?
If I want boring and predictable there are literally tens of thousands of online communities that will give you nauseatingly boring. I participate here for the specific reason that there is healthy debate, outrageously polarizing opinion and people actually willing to stand up and believe in something, even when they are obviously disturbed and dead wrong, at least they have the huevos to believe in something.
The ignore button has become the mouthpiece of the intellectually retarded, and the cowardly refuge of those who are not able to form an opinion, preferring to hide behind the skirts of anonymous finger pointing and name calling.
A far more valuable button would be one that shows the interesting "darkies" exactly how many ignores each of the candy ass wimps who use ignore has implemented.
Do you have the moral courage to compile a list of who has the most ignores set to complement this uncalled for nonsense?
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September 16, 2012, 04:39:55 PM |
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Sorry theymos, but this has just been revealed to be an utterly useless feature for our community.
Study the folks who are "dark" (and we can set aside the racist undertones of that particular glitch!) and you will find the most interesting people in the community, and certain the most opinionated. Is our goal to have a milquetoast all vanilla community of quiet, polite followers? Or is the purpose of a Bitcoin forum to celebrate bitcoin and explore the very edges of what a paradigm shifting financial innovation it is?
If I want boring and predictable there are literally tens of thousands of online communities that will give you nauseatingly boring. I participate here for the specific reason that there is healthy debate, outrageously polarizing opinion and people actually willing to stand up and believe in something, even when they are obviously disturbed and dead wrong, at least they have the huevos to believe in something.
The ignore button has become the mouthpiece of the intellectually retarded, and the cowardly refuge of those who are not able to form an opinion, preferring to hide behind the skirts of anonymous finger pointing and name calling.
A far more valuable button would be one that shows the interesting "darkies" exactly how many ignores each of the candy ass wimps who use ignore has implemented.
Do you have the moral courage to compile a list of who has the most ignores set to complement this uncalled for nonsense?
Hmmm... your view of this issue may a bit biased as you yourself have quite a few ignores. The ignore button's purpose is to hide posts of people one does not want to see, given the freedom of expression the forum administration approves of, it is a useful option. I have tried no to use it myself until very recently (zyk and reeses) but I am happy I can now avoid reading their posts. I don't quite agree with your first statement regarding the 'dark' people, sure some of them may be interesting, but a lot of them are trolls who are ignored for a reason. EDIT: Hue of the ignore button is simply an indicator of the probability that a certain person is a professional forum troll but one should use other measures to judge a person (read their posts and draw one's own conclusions).
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LoupGaroux
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September 16, 2012, 05:13:18 PM |
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Damn, I forgot my sarcasm button again.
I was being churlish, and poking a stick at authority. I think the entire thing is a silly joke anyway, see my earlier concept on having a "loyalty" button to play opposite this one. Point being that at least there is some good debate on that list, and depriving yourself of it is a shame.
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September 16, 2012, 05:22:27 PM |
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I adjusted the thresholds. Old: Current rules are: - 0.35% of very-established users ignore you: no public highlight, but a range on your posts that only you can see - 0.5% of very-established users ignore you: light highlight - 0.75% of very-established users ignore you: medium highlight - 1% of very-established users ignore you: dark highlight
New: Current rules are: - 0.35% of very-established users ignore you: no public highlight, but a range on your posts that only you can see - 0.5% of very-established users ignore you: light highlight - 1% of very-established users ignore you: medium highlight - 1.5% of very-established users ignore you: dark highlight
Also, I made the light highlight lighter.
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September 16, 2012, 05:29:06 PM |
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Your posts are often unnecessarily hostile. I don't blame people for ignoring you. And if someone reads your posts and becomes annoyed, I would like them to see your ignore highlighting and realize they can ignore you rather than start a flame war or complain about how the forum is full of trolls.
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September 17, 2012, 12:48:21 PM Last edit: September 17, 2012, 01:13:21 PM by gene |
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The list reveals an interesting pattern of groups being ignored. 1) incoherent posters 2) relentless self-promoters 3) ponzi scheme/fraud whistleblowers I noticed my button get much darker after posting about the scams and scam-enablers (including forum admins). This got much more obvious after I called out Theymos for his role in the matter and his admitted and knowing participation in Pirate's ponzi scheme. If scammer scumbags are using the ignore feature to label those who oppose their scheming, then I leave it to others to decide just how useful the feature is.
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September 17, 2012, 01:37:30 PM |
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You raise a very interesting point, so I guess I stand corrected, there is a function for the button.
I can now identify folks that I have respect for, and find their conversation of merit more easily. If you want to call out the scammers and the fraudsters, then you are pretty much somebody I'm willing to read.
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September 23, 2012, 08:43:40 AM |
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I just wanted to post something that no one would read.
You failed. I read it. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) It would be interesting feedback for those who are ignored to learn which posts triggered "ignore". It could be because I called someone a fragrant name, that I maligned their vocation, or that they are bigots.
That would be a nice feature, but I imagine it would be hard to code.
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September 23, 2012, 05:20:53 PM |
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Since my cryptography apparently failed, I'll say this should be relatively easy. "Ignore" invokes a handler, which could also PM the author with "your post #23123123 sucks!" I can do the correlation myself.
But pm spam! Do you really want to get notifications everytime someone takes you off ignore, reads your post, then reignores you? Holy false positives, Batman!
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September 23, 2012, 05:44:18 PM |
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Since my cryptography apparently failed, I'll say this should be relatively easy. "Ignore" invokes a handler, which could also PM the author with "your post #23123123 sucks!" I can do the correlation myself.
But pm spam! Do you really want to get notifications everytime someone takes you off ignore, reads your post, then reignores you? Holy false positives, Batman!It would give theymos something to read? QTFY
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September 23, 2012, 07:56:22 PM |
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Since my cryptography apparently failed, I'll say this should be relatively easy. "Ignore" invokes a handler, which could also PM the author with "your post #23123123 sucks!" I can do the correlation myself.
But pm spam! Do you really want to get notifications everytime someone takes you off ignore, reads your post, then reignores you? Holy false positives, Batman!There's a show/hide link at the top right of an ignored user's posts. Obviously, not everyone knows about that, though. It might get annoying.
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September 27, 2012, 06:01:57 PM |
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I've compiled some updated stats.
There are 1414 very-established users.
You need x ignores for... Warn: 5 Light: 8 Medium: 11 Dark: 15
These users have some color: zyk 90 bulanula 58 smoothie 43 Maria 39 Rarity 38 bitlane 38 cunicula 34 1nject0r 33 Jon 29 Matthew N. Wright 27 iCEBREAKER 25 PinkiePie 23 Micon 23 mystery2048 22 Faisal7 20 ElectricMucus 20 LoupGaroux 19 psy 18 SuperDuperJenkins 17 reeses 16 Mosrite 16 gene 15 Phinnaeus Gage 15 Liberty Payout 14 RandyFolds 14 The_Duke 14 mem 13 Vladimir 13 Yolocoin 12 Chaang Noi (Goat) piotr_n 12 hoo 11 plastic.elastic 11 MPOE-PR 10 CoinHunter 10 myself 10 David_Benz 9 hazek 9 JeffK 9 bitcoinBull 8 Atlas 8 i_rape_bitcoins 8 Surawit 8 bitcoiners 8
This list seems pretty reasonable to me. I'm thinking that maybe the threshold for dark highlighting should be moved up, though.
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September 27, 2012, 06:56:19 PM |
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October 08, 2012, 12:40:28 AM |
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I've compiled some updated stats.
There are 1414 very-established users.
You need x ignores for... Warn: 5 Light: 8 Medium: 11 Dark: 15
These users have some color: zyk 90 bulanula 58 smoothie 43 Maria 39 Rarity 38 bitlane 38 cunicula 34 1nject0r 33 Jon 29 Matthew N. Wright 27 iCEBREAKER 25 PinkiePie 23 Micon 23 mystery2048 22 Faisal7 20 ElectricMucus 20 LoupGaroux 19 psy 18 SuperDuperJenkins 17 reeses 16 Mosrite 16 gene 15 Phinnaeus Gage 15 Liberty Payout 14 RandyFolds 14 The_Duke 14 mem 13 Vladimir 13 Yolocoin 12 Chaang Noi (Goat) piotr_n 12 hoo 11 plastic.elastic 11 MPOE-PR 10 CoinHunter 10 myself 10 David_Benz 9 hazek 9 JeffK 9 bitcoinBull 8 Atlas 8 i_rape_bitcoins 8 Surawit 8 bitcoiners 8
This list seems pretty reasonable to me. I'm thinking that maybe the threshold for dark highlighting should be moved up, though.
I agree the darkness of the ignore link should be moved up. Wow i'm 3rd? Cheeeyah! That's awesome. Anymore crybabies want to hit my ignore button? LOL see if I care! haha ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 08, 2012, 12:49:14 AM |
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I wanted to mention one more thing:
I have not been scammed or dumb enough to get caught up in Bitcoinica, Pirate, or GLBSE to date.
Funny thing though is that I'm the 3rd most ignored person on this entire forum. The biggest scammers like Pirate and Nefario are not ignored at all. So that tells me that people are just aching to be scammed and deserve to be scammed because they choose to listen to scammers like those two and decide to ignore me. I know i'm not the nicest person but I wont lie or scam someone or spout propaganda to fuel my own agenda like even Lukejr does. But whatever...
Anyways, go back and wait for the next big scam to get involved with.
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October 08, 2012, 12:28:35 PM |
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I wanted to mention one more thing:
I have not been scammed or dumb enough to get caught up in Bitcoinica, Pirate, or GLBSE to date.
Funny thing though is that I'm the 3rd most ignored person on this entire forum. The biggest scammers like Pirate and Nefario are not ignored at all. So that tells me that people are just aching to be scammed and deserve to be scammed because they choose to listen to scammers like those two and decide to ignore me. I know i'm not the nicest person but I wont lie or scam someone or spout propaganda to fuel my own agenda like even Lukejr does. But whatever...
Anyways, go back and wait for the next big scam to get involved with.
Correlation =/= causation
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October 08, 2012, 12:51:42 PM |
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Yay, I'm on a list! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) 14 people couldn't handle that not everyone shares their opinion ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Donate to the BitKitty Foundation instead! -> 1Fd4yLneGmxRHnPi6WCMC2hAMzaWvDePF9 <-
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October 09, 2012, 09:20:59 PM |
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Oh I haven't realized Transisto actually payed to give me that award. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Will the list be updated regularly? If so I intend to get into the top three by more thought-provoking and insufferable threads. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 09, 2012, 11:34:01 PM |
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Oh I haven't realized Transisto actually payed to give me that award. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Will the list be updated regularly? If so I intend to get into the top three by more thought-provoking and insufferable threads. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Show-off. You're only one ignoramus darker than me.
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