Petition to introduce minimum activity count for ANN thread starters

[Brewins]

Full members and above, so 120+ activity

4 months is enough for a serious user learn everything needed to launch a good coin, while 4 months is enough to make most scammers impatient.

[1715123445]

1715123445

[1715123445]

1715123445

[kcud_dab]

Do you realized that with this kind of rules anybody can buy an old accound and make what he wants ?

[Malin Keshar]

Do you realized that with this kind of rules anybody can buy an old accound and make what he wants ?

Read all the first post:

Some would argue that people can still nurture alt accounts to fulfill the 100 activity requirement, or even just purchase accounts.
However, the post history behind these accounts will still be valuable for forum participants to judge the merits of the claims made by individual developers.
An account that spent 3 weeks collecting giveaways before suddenly announcing the launch of a fancy new coin will hardly be taken seriously, right?

[jambola2]

What about Anonymity ?
What if I want to make a new coin but don't want to link it to me ? It is an open source project , so I don't see why I need to be its flagbearer.

Just like in the Lending or Gambling section (ahem , Ponzi section) , you need to think before you blindly invest in something.
Stopping people from anonymously posting new coins just because you are butthurt from a bad investment is a bad idea.

[rugrats]

What about Anonymity ?
What if I want to make a new coin but don't want to link it to me ? It is an open source project , so I don't see why I need to be its flagbearer.

Just like in the Lending or Gambling section (ahem , Ponzi section) , you need to think before you blindly invest in something.
Stopping people from anonymously posting new coins just because you are butthurt from a bad investment is a bad idea.

What about anonymity?
Whose stopping anyone from remaining anonymous?
I suggest you spend time reading through the thread first before commenting rather than creating straw man arguments.

[Spoetnik]

saying *again the alt section is not important etc is kind of dumb.
it's a major draw for people to come here.
and it's the most popular place on earth to post coins.. so who cares ? gimme a break 

i think common sense goes a long way..

i have never seen or heard of a place that would allow people to abuse the account creation powers.
then factor in it's a tool for scammers they rely on heavily that is as Rugrats just put enabling them
i have to step back and say wow and wtf ?

i smells poor excuses ..that is it.

and WHY would staff enable this behavior ?
i seen one of these guys say make a new account if you have "something controversial to say"
excuse fail lol

do what ever you want.. hopefully some other place gets popular then we can be done with this.
all the user agree we want rules and the coin cloners and their shell accounts defend it lol
and we get told who cares.. your all not important.. but the scammers are !

ever thought of doing something about it ?
how about posting a rule forbidding useless blatant clone coins ? or scam coins etc ?
any other forum on earth would not tolerate this crap what so ever..

[rugrats]

The latest adventure of the brand new devs.

Today, we'll be taking a look at Mr. Darren Palmer, the CEO of PayProcoin and 'Instant Bitcoin', who cleared 40 million coins during its IPO ICO earlier this month. Sadly, Mr. Palmer claimed he was subjected to a coordinated attack by fudsters, which according to him, led to the closure of his bank, Paypal and Virvox accounts. So now Mr. Palmer must close his 'holding company' "until I find a solution and my funds returned."

Strangely, upon hearing the news of a bounty being placed on his head earlier today, our Mr. Palmer had this to say, as related by Nyterax.

I showed this to him and he told me in Skype that he doesn't care because his ID is fake and then he disappeared - that might be the last we hear from him. Can make a screen if anyone wants but whatever. Oh well, I really thought he could be legit, otherwise I wouldn't have supported the whole ordeal.

Clearly, the only way to prevent such blatant scams from recurring in future is by banning mining pools from posting in ANN threads. 

[Spoetnik]

Clearly, the only way to prevent such blatant scams from recurring in future is by banning mining pools from posting in ANN threads. 

ok that made me laugh pretty damn hard !

they keep getting these same topics posted and people keep asking for this unaware they are being tucked away in "meta" lol

i am not saying i have the best answers but i think *something should be done.
and the major reason i say so is not to stifle freedom and combat scams..
it's just because it's a nasty mess trying to sift through the ANN section

[BadBear]

The latest adventure of the brand new devs.

Today, we'll be taking a look at Mr. Darren Palmer, the CEO of PayProcoin and 'Instant Bitcoin', who cleared 40 million coins during its IPO ICO earlier this month. Sadly, Mr. Palmer claimed he was subjected to a coordinated attack by fudsters, which according to him, led to the closure of his bank, Paypal and Virvox accounts. So now Mr. Palmer must close his 'holding company' "until I find a solution and my funds returned."

Strangely, upon hearing the news of a bounty being placed on his head earlier today, our Mr. Palmer had this to say, as related by Nyterax.

I showed this to him and he told me in Skype that he doesn't care because his ID is fake and then he disappeared - that might be the last we hear from him. Can make a screen if anyone wants but whatever. Oh well, I really thought he could be legit, otherwise I wouldn't have supported the whole ordeal.

Clearly, the only way to prevent such blatant scams from recurring in future is by banning mining pools from posting in ANN threads.  

I've never seen so many complaints about people having the right to choose. Do you really want some dudes on a forum deciding what you should be able to invest your money in? If you feel their should be controls of some sorts, then do it, and stop expecting someone else to do it for you. Make an Altcoin Business Bureau or whatever you think will help. I had hopes for that scamcoin buster thing a while back, but it seems to have fizzled out.

Restricting accounts will not work. Do you honestly think the scams are just some random newbie that shows up, then leaves? There are rings of scammers operating here. It's the same on any forum revolving around finance, this isn't a phenomenon located just here. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out the majority of them are by the same two or three groups. If we restrict newbies from posting, then we'll just see proxy posts, people paying someone else to post it for them. Then every announcement thread will be prefaced with  *Not my coin, just posting this thread*. Or bought accounts, which will just be considered the cost of doing business by scammers. No matter what restrictions we put on accounts, they'll get around it. Need to be a Junior member to make a thread? If I were a scammer, I'd just make 50 accounts today, 50 accounts tomorrow, 50 more the day after that, etc. After a few weeks I'm back in business, with tons of disposable accounts to cull the suckers who now have a false sense of security. Pay to post? Just look at how many donators/VIP members turned out to be scammers for proof that no amount is high enough to deter scammers. I remember seeing one scammer post in scammer accusations, he said he made 5k+ a month here, and had been for several months. He's probably still here.  

People are too used to having someone else hold their hand. Many people just don't want to take responsibility for their own actions, and don't want to admit they're gullible, greedy idiots, so they run here to post about how it's totally everyone else's fault, and the forum should have stopped it somehow.

You have the freedom to choose, make your choices wisely.

[rugrats]

The latest adventure of the brand new devs.

Today, we'll be taking a look at Mr. Darren Palmer, the CEO of PayProcoin and 'Instant Bitcoin', who cleared 40 million coins during its IPO ICO earlier this month. Sadly, Mr. Palmer claimed he was subjected to a coordinated attack by fudsters, which according to him, led to the closure of his bank, Paypal and Virvox accounts. So now Mr. Palmer must close his 'holding company' "until I find a solution and my funds returned."

Strangely, upon hearing the news of a bounty being placed on his head earlier today, our Mr. Palmer had this to say, as related by Nyterax.

I showed this to him and he told me in Skype that he doesn't care because his ID is fake and then he disappeared - that might be the last we hear from him. Can make a screen if anyone wants but whatever. Oh well, I really thought he could be legit, otherwise I wouldn't have supported the whole ordeal.

Clearly, the only way to prevent such blatant scams from recurring in future is by banning mining pools from posting in ANN threads.  

I've never seen so many complaints about people having the right to choose. Do you really want some dudes on a forum deciding what you should be able to invest your money in? If you feel their should be controls of some sorts, then do it, and stop expecting someone else to do it for you. Make an Altcoin Business Bureau or whatever you think will help. I had hopes for that scamcoin buster thing a while back, but it seems to have fizzled out.

Restricting accounts will not work. Do you honestly think the scams are just some random newbie that shows up, then leaves? There are rings of scammers operating here. It's the same on any forum revolving around finance, this isn't a phenomenon located just here. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out the majority of them are by the same two or three groups. If we restrict newbies from posting, then we'll just see proxy posts, people paying someone else to post it for them. Then every announcement thread will be prefaced with  *Not my coin, just posting this thread*. Or bought accounts, which will just be considered the cost of doing business by scammers. No matter what restrictions we put on accounts, they'll get around it. Need to be a Junior member to make a thread? If I were a scammer, I'd just make 50 accounts today, 50 accounts tomorrow, 50 more the day after that, etc. After a few weeks I'm back in business, with tons of disposable accounts to cull the suckers who now have a false sense of security. Pay to post? Just look at how many donators/VIP members turned out to be scammers for proof that no amount is high enough to deter scammers. I remember seeing one scammer post in scammer accusations, he said he made 5k+ a month here, and had been for several months. He's probably still here.  

People are too used to having someone else hold their hand. Many people just don't want to take responsibility for their own actions, and don't want to admit they're gullible, greedy idiots, so they run here to post about how it's totally everyone else's fault, and the forum should have stopped it somehow.

You have the freedom to choose, make your choices wisely.

I get the impression that you didn't even bother reading the thread before commenting, because most of the points you raised have already been rebutted.

This is not about the right to choose.
This is not about handholding.
This is not about people being gullible, greedy or stupid (which is disrespectful, btw).

This is about Bitcointalk creating an environment that enables and even encourages scammers. It has reached a point where it is far more lucrative to scam than to develop a proper product. Why should developers spend months developing a project when the present broken system allows them make 10, 100 or 500BTC in merely days or weeks? Do you understand the gravity of the situation and the harm it is doing to cryptocurrency?

Segue: Your rule about pool spamming wasn't a well thought out move. It was an overreaction to a very small problem. I don't really care on how the rule affects pools, but as I've mentioned in the pinned thread, you have merely removed another layer of protection

This give scammy devs additional leverage. Pools will have to toe the line or risk being excluded from the OP.
Scam devs are not interested in creating a well-spread hashrate - even a single pool would do for them.
Especially one that doesn't highlight suspicious codes. The past week alone, I've seen three pools giving alerts on weird codes, like this one.
A layer of protection against scam coins is now removed.

[rugrats]

While I'm pleased to report that several devs are starting to use their primary account, the menace of the brand new dev remains.

Today, the spotlight is on Orgamiscoin, featuring the revolutionary PoX (Proof of Sex) protocol.
Basically, miners mine the coin by using a sex toy - I kid you not.

We also have Cryptographic Triangles, whose dev answer questions with a "Because you know why". The mysterious developer, 3angle, paid for the coin to be listed, and disappeared soon after. No wallet/s are listed in the OP, and the block explorer is down. We can only speculate how much he earned form this blatant scam. The victims were mostly speculators from outside this board.

[rugrats]

XGT Legit Currency!

dev left IRC after complaining that we didnt make him money yet

Dev Profile

[rugrats]

I missed this post by Carsen Klock.

Would you list all the coins you launched so far?

Yes of course: My entry to the crypto-world in order is:
Timecoin (Scrypt based, terrible clone)
Matrixcoin (Sha256 based, terrible clone)
Hashcoin (X11 based, first animated logo, DGW V3, coin ended up forking due to no one updating to the latest wallet from all the FUD, coin could still work)
Dreamcoin (X11 based first PoW/PoS crypto I created, HUGE amount of FUD with threats, so I removed the coin to hurt the community because I was hurt, which was wrong, looks like community took it over though, still working)
Nebulacoin (X13 based PoW/PoS, Still lives on to this day)
Techcoin (X13 based PoW/PoS, Still lives on to this day, looks like the community is taking it over, fixing block times (it was too slow)).
Firecoin (X15 based first PoW/PoS, block times were faster, smoother launch, FUD killed it)
Isiscoin (X15 based PoW/PoS, smooth launch, hit Mintpal second day of ninja launch (No bribes were made), Premine was dumped before we hit Mintpal (which a lot of people thought i dumped on mintpal, I did not), HUGE FUD followed, along with government talk of Isiscoin, Death Threats, etc. Bad choice of name and bad launch date made me remove this coin, also because I do not support terrorism and that is what people were thinking. Just overall bad ideas on my end, My intention was the Egyptian god ISIS but as you all know, people twist things around)
Webcoin (X14 PoW/PoS, By far my best coin ever, Extremely stable, Smooth launch, Fair distribution)

Any other coin is not made by me, these are the only coins I have worked on.