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July 15, 2014, 06:39:28 AM
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BTC price going significantly up requires one thing (okay three):   

Consumer adoption, demand, and commerce.

This "stage" of the game is still some time off.  This is why the price rocket to the moon has not begun yet.

And will *not* begin despite any number of "good news" articles that come out.  Period.

The first round of Bitcoin startups (focused mainly on making bitcoin easier to use) are still in funding/planning/setup phase. 

Barely the first 1, 2, or 3 of them have actually begun doing business and making themselves known.

*After* that, you're looking at a significant amount of more time where even more *Merchant* adoption has to take place.   

There's got to be somewhere for Bitcoin to be used, first. 

Both of these are necessary before Consumer adoption, demand, and commerce can even begin. 
 
And even then, its not like Consumers are just going to start going shopping with Bitcoin.   *Something* unique, interesting, and exciting must catch the consumers eye, and draw the masses in droves towards Bitcoin.  I wonder what that thing will be?

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July 15, 2014, 06:59:46 AM
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All I see it doing is building a base in price before the next rocket. A good thing.

Let it take its time. Wink

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July 15, 2014, 07:02:26 AM
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BTC price going significantly up requires one thing (okay three):   
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"BTC price going up significantly requires one thing": More buyers than sellers <period>

Are you not aware of the historical massive rallies that BTC has had already?
The next Huge Rally can happen based on expectations, not reality.

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July 15, 2014, 07:03:02 AM
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The value going up from a purely network effect point of view, absolutely. But there are plently of other people who know this is going to happen apart from the people who talk about it on this forum, and want to make a fairly safe high percentage short term return. I suspect these people are only waiting for the cheapest time to buy in and we'll see some decent action this year before the network size fundamentals raise the price on their own.

That said, there are plenty of ridiculous whiners on this forum that can't wait a year or two to get rich. come one, guys, relax!

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July 15, 2014, 07:08:54 AM
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BTC price going significantly up requires one thing (okay three): Consumer adoption, demand, and commerce.
This "stage" of the game is still some time off.  This is why the price rocket to the moon has not begun yet.

You forgot speculation. We've had quite a few bubbles, large and small, already.

Problem is, if you're only in when real consumer adoption comes, you'll have to buy in > $10k.

That's why I'm in now and not next year.
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July 15, 2014, 03:28:13 PM
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All I see it doing is building a base in price before the next rocket. A good thing.

Let it take its time. Wink

Totally agreed on both points, I used to be anxious for the price to go up - now I'm just happy to have more time to buy low!
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July 15, 2014, 03:49:08 PM
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I AM patient, my target for this year is "only" $3,500/BTC.  Grin

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July 15, 2014, 04:32:26 PM
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All I see it doing is building a base in price before the next rocket. A good thing.

Let it take its time. Wink

For real.
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July 15, 2014, 05:06:29 PM
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When most of the market expects a bubble then it really is no surprise when the opposite occurs. (Or at least a sideways meandering).

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July 15, 2014, 05:13:26 PM
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Is it possible for another bubble to occur? Once a product has gone relatively mainstream in that a majority of people are aware of it, bubbles generally do not occur because there is a lack of further speculation.

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July 15, 2014, 05:13:49 PM
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All I see it doing is building a base in price before the next rocket. A good thing.

Let it take its time. Wink

Totally agreed on both points, I used to be anxious for the price to go up - now I'm just happy to have more time to buy low!

Yeah and thats how every bear should think about it instead of making bear topics expecting it to go more lower. Cheesy
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July 15, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
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Is it possible for another bubble to occur? Once a product has gone relatively mainstream in that a majority of people are aware of it, bubbles generally do not occur because there is a lack of further speculation.

I highly encourage you to do a survey in your local community.  Unless you happen to live in silicon valley, chances are more than 90% of people's eyes will glaze over if you ask them about bitcoin.

We are very far from the majority of people being aware of it.

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July 15, 2014, 05:29:03 PM
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Is it possible for another bubble to occur? Once a product has gone relatively mainstream in that a majority of people are aware of it, bubbles generally do not occur because there is a lack of further speculation.

Most people are aware of Bitcoin in name only.  Most have next to no idea the potential for technological and economic disruption it has.

I would imagine seeing a few more bubbles as the realization of that starts to set in.
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July 15, 2014, 06:42:35 PM
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Don't worry.  I've got considerable fiat coming available on August 25th.  (Really.)  So we're guaranteed to bubble before that date just so I can't buy more at a good price.
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July 15, 2014, 07:00:45 PM
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I AM patient, my target for this year is "only" $3,500/BTC.  Grin

$3500 would be amazing. I would be more than happy with $1500 though as well. Hell, just reaching a new ATH would be huge because it would prove to all the doubters how resilient BTC is
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July 15, 2014, 07:24:17 PM
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Don't worry.  I've got considerable fiat coming available on August 25th.  (Really.)  So we're guaranteed to bubble before that date just so I can't buy more at a good price.


Thanks for taking one for the team, Raystonn.  You're a stand-up guy.

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July 15, 2014, 07:26:43 PM
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I expect this to play out over years or decades.

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July 15, 2014, 07:58:26 PM
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Only in BTC terms would this be considered taking too long. In what, 4 years we've gone from nothing to multi-billion dollar idea.
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July 15, 2014, 08:31:32 PM
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Only in BTC terms would this be considered taking too long. In what, 4 years we've gone from nothing to multi-billion dollar idea.

Learning about the protocol certainly has that effect of seeming to slow down time.  I remember when I first started really getting into it, I was spending hours a day reading up, watching the market, doing some trading.

The excitement factor and extremely fast development definitely can create some false expectations of constant violent action.  The reality seems to be a few months correcting, a few more with development of infrastructure and sideways value adjustments, and then one month of complete fucking insanity. Rinse and repeat.

It all seems relative, though.  Once you've been through a bubble or two, it's easier to have the overall perspective of just how quickly BTC is growing into a behemoth.
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July 15, 2014, 08:51:50 PM
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We need more buyers.






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