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August 06, 2014, 03:03:34 PM
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i thought the S3's shut down if they reached 80 degrees celcius ?
anyone tested this since i see alot of talk about fire hazards.

also could get a tellstick and some kind of nexa unit and turn off the power if the temperature inside the room reaches X degrees Smiley

If they shut down - what is the point of mining? Sure, the A/C will cool down the air eventually and ASICs will run again at some point. In this case the best option would be the chilled air flowing directly to the S3s and PSUs. Enclosing such heat makes it a hot air electric oven unless your A/C is more powerful than the S3s and PSUs combined (you can also think about throwing the PSUs outside the cold area if you don't care about cooling them).
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August 06, 2014, 08:26:16 PM
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Question guys.

With 218.75 and 225 its necessary to use 4 PCIE? Or with just 2 PCIE its ok?? For 218.75 im sure i can just use 2 PCIE, but for 225 frequency im not that sure.

right now i have 4 PCIE for both, 716W total
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August 06, 2014, 09:00:05 PM
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Question guys.

With 218.75 and 225 its necessary to use 4 PCIE? Or with just 2 PCIE its ok?? For 218.75 im sure i can just use 2 PCIE, but for 225 frequency im not that sure.

right now i have 4 PCIE for both, 716W total

I've heard you can do it with two cables, just make sure they aren't getting too hot. As is hot to the touch.


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August 06, 2014, 09:08:48 PM
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Question guys.

With 218.75 and 225 its necessary to use 4 PCIE? Or with just 2 PCIE its ok?? For 218.75 im sure i can just use 2 PCIE, but for 225 frequency im not that sure.

right now i have 4 PCIE for both, 716W total

My recommendation is to use four cables for better stability.
But its not a necessity. If you are overclocking I now strongly recommend(unlike earlier) to use 4 power cables.
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August 06, 2014, 09:26:05 PM
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Question guys.

With 218.75 and 225 its necessary to use 4 PCIE? Or with just 2 PCIE its ok?? For 218.75 im sure i can just use 2 PCIE, but for 225 frequency im not that sure.

right now i have 4 PCIE for both, 716W total

My recommendation is to use four cables for better stability.
But its not a necessity. If you are overclocking I now strongly recommend(unlike earlier) to use 4 power cables.

I wanted to use Corsair CX750M for both, but yeah i have one at 225 frequency, so thats OC and i suppose with just 2 PCIE wont work very well maybe
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August 06, 2014, 11:13:48 PM
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Does anyone have any information about the JDH1238B fan used on the S3? Specifically Air Flow CFM and Noise Level dbA.

I'm looking to replace them with something quieter if possible.

Thanks
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August 06, 2014, 11:46:51 PM
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Which two of the four PCI-E connectors do you need to plug power into? Or does it not matter?
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August 07, 2014, 01:42:22 AM
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Does anyone have any information about the JDH1238B fan used on the S3? Specifically Air Flow CFM and Noise Level dbA.

I'm looking to replace them with something quieter if possible.

Thanks

they move 90-105 cfm.  the high end 30 a piece deltas move 210 cfm.  so if you buy them and turn down the rpm they will be quieter.  wait for link,


these can be found for less.


http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9321/fan-581/Delta_120_x_38mm_Ultra_High-Speed_PWM_Fan_-_21038_CFM_QFR1212GHE-PWM.html?tl=c365s935b113&id=mPpv8As6


they are 4 pin and will run slower then 2000 rpm and still move more air then stock.

most other solutions are meh.  but someone may find a better one for you.

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August 07, 2014, 03:18:20 AM
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Which two of the four PCI-E connectors do you need to plug power into? Or does it not matter?
The blades run lengthways, and you need to power each.  So one on the "left-side" and one on the "right-side", if you are looking at it from the front side with the ethernet connection.
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August 07, 2014, 06:19:29 AM
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Which two of the four PCI-E connectors do you need to plug power into? Or does it not matter?

You can connect any of the two, one in each blade.
Its better and safe to have all the 4 cables connected to Ant S3.
I found improved stability when connected all the fours.
Make sure that you are not connecting a single blade from multiple PSUs.
Same time you can connect one PSU to one blade and Another PSU to the other blade
if you cannot have a single PSU which can power both the blades.
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August 07, 2014, 09:42:33 AM
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Work Input timing
Clock Freq.(M)   Hash rate(G)   Reg.value   Ideal delay(ms)   Recommenddelay(ms)
 100                   6.30                    0783           42.6                    38
 125                   7.88                    0983           34.0                    31
 150                   9.45                    0b83           28.4                    26
 175                  11.03                    0d83           24.3                    22
 200                  12.60                    0782           21.3                    19
 225                  14.18                    0882           18.9                    17
 250                  15.75                    0982           17.0                    15
 275                  17.33                    0a82           15.5                    14
 300                  18.90                    0b82           14.2                    13
 325                  20.48                    0c82           13.1                    12
 350                  22.05                    0d82           12.2                    11
 375                  23.63                    0e82           11.3                    10
 400                  25.20                    08f2           10.6                    10

Has anyone successfully broken the above down into smaller incremental steps?  Preferably 1/4 of their current spacing?  Or even 1/6th?  Thanks!
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August 07, 2014, 11:02:01 AM
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Both of my 1st batch S3's will overclock to 225 and beyond, at least for short time, but both hash slower at 225 and 250 than at 218.5. As in - both 5s and average GH/s figures are lower (barely reaching 400 at 225), whereas they will happily do stable throughput of 440 at 218.5.   
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Clock Freq.(M)   Hash rate(G)      Reg.value      Ideal delay(ms)      Recommenddelay(ms)
 100                   6.30                    0783           42.6                    38
-106.25
-112.5
-118.75
 125                   7.88                    0983           34.0                    31
-131.25
-137.5
-143.75
 150                   9.45                    0b83           28.4                    26
-156.25
-162.5
-168.75
 175                  11.03                    0d83           24.3                    22
-181.25
-187.5
-193.75
 200                  12.60                    0782           21.3                    19
-206.25
-212.5
-218.75
 225                  14.18                    0882           18.9                    17
-231.25
-237.5
-243.75
 250                  15.75                    0982           17.0                    15
-256.25
-262.5
-268.75
 275                  17.33                    0a82           15.5                    14
-281.25
-287.5
-293.75
 300                  18.90                    0b82           14.2                    13
-306.25
-312.5
-318.75
 325                  20.48                    0c82           13.1                    12
-331.25
-337.5
-343.75
 350                  22.05                    0d82           12.2                    11
-356.25
-362.5
-368.75
 375                  23.63                    0e82           11.3                    10
-381.25
-387.5
-393.75
 400                  25.20                    08f2           10.6                    10

I was able to seperate the above frequencies into smaller incremental steps, but I have no idea how to calculate the "reg. value" or the "ideal delay" for them.  Anyone with a little more know-how than myself willing to help out?  I know a few other people in this thread were looking for something like this as well, and any help at all would be appreciated.  Thanks!
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August 08, 2014, 06:24:46 AM
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I was able to seperate the above frequencies into smaller incremental steps, but I have no idea how to calculate the "reg. value" or the "ideal delay" for them.  Anyone with a little more know-how than myself willing to help out?  I know a few other people in this thread were looking for something like this as well, and any help at all would be appreciated.  Thanks!
Adjusting the S1 formula based on S3 ASIC spec I was able to get following register values (and timeout). Use the settings below at your own risk!

Clock_Freq      Register value    Timeout
(chip_freq)(freq_value)(timeout)
100078340
103.125100739
106.25080338
109.375110737
112.5088336
115.625120735
118.75090334
121.875130733
125098332
128.125140731
131.250A0330
134.375150730
137.50A8329
140.625160728
143.750B0328
146.875170727
1500B8327
153.125180726
156.250C0326
159.375190725
162.50C8325
165.6251A0724
168.750D0324
171.8751B0723
1750D8323
178.1251C0722
181.250E0322
184.3751D0722
187.50E8321
190.6251E0721
193.750F0321
196.8751F0720
200078220
206.25100619
212.5080219
218.75110618
225088218
231.25120617
237.5090217
243.75130616
250098216
256.25140616
262.50A0215
268.75150615
2750A8215
281.25160614
287.50B0214
293.75170614
3000B8213
306.25180613
312.50C0213
318.75190613
3250C8212
331.251A0612
337.50D0212
343.751B0612
3500D8211
356.251C0611
362.50E0211
368.751D0611
3750E8211
381.251E0610
387.50F0210
393.751F0610
4000F8210

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August 08, 2014, 07:08:06 AM
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I was able to seperate the above frequencies into smaller incremental steps, but I have no idea how to calculate the "reg. value" or the "ideal delay" for them.  Anyone with a little more know-how than myself willing to help out?  I know a few other people in this thread were looking for something like this as well, and any help at all would be appreciated.  Thanks!
Adjusting the S1 formula based on S3 ASIC spec I was able to get following register values (and timeout). Use the settings below at your own risk!

Clock_Freq      Register value    Timeout
(chip_freq)(freq_value)(timeout)
100078340
103.125100739
106.25080338
109.375110737
112.5088336
115.625120735
118.75090334
121.875130733
125098332
128.125140731
131.250A0330
134.375150730
137.50A8329
140.625160728
143.750B0328
146.875170727
1500B8327
153.125180726
156.250C0326
159.375190725
162.50C8325
165.6251A0724
168.750D0324
171.8751B0723
1750D8323
178.1251C0722
181.250E0322
184.3751D0722
187.50E8321
190.6251E0721
193.750F0321
196.8751F0720
200078220
206.25100619
212.5080219
218.75110618
225088218
231.25120617
237.5090217
243.75130616
250098216
256.25140616
262.50A0215
268.75150615
2750A8215
281.25160614
287.50B0214
293.75170614
3000B8213
306.25180613
312.50C0213
318.75190613
3250C8212
331.251A0612
337.50D0212
343.751B0612
3500D8211
356.251C0611
362.50E0211
368.751D0611
3750E8211
381.251E0610
387.50F0210
393.751F0610
4000F8210

Awesome!  I'm testing the following now:

        option 'freq_value'    '1306'
        option 'chip_freq'     '243.75'
        option 'timeout'       '16'

One of my Ant's works fine at 250, however the other does not and had to be bumped down to the 237.5 to refrain from attaining X's.

This seems to be stable so far, but only time will tell as it took about an hour/2 for it to show X's the first time around.

Currently averaging 485-490 GH/s.
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August 08, 2014, 08:25:24 AM
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Do you guys feel it is good to instantly remove the heatsinks and apply new thermal paste to the chips?

I am unsure of the quality paste used from manufacturer but I highly doubt it is premium due to production costs.
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Do you guys feel it is good to instantly remove the heatsinks and apply new thermal paste to the chips?

I am unsure of the quality paste used from manufacturer but I highly doubt it is premium due to production costs.

I have been running both of my Ant's OC'd to 500 GH/s and 490 GH/s and both temperatures are well within normal ranges and all chips are stable and hashing with no X's.  One of them has been running a few hours as if you look up a post or two you'll see where we came up with the newer smaller incremental frequency steps, and that is the one running at 490 GH/s up from the 237.5 clock which was in the 470-480 GH/s range, while the other has been running for 72 hours at 500 GH/s.  

Highest temperature reached by any miner is 44C, while averaging 40-43 C in use, so I would say replacing the thermal compound is unnecessary.

That being said, if you do decide to go ahead and upgrade/replace the thermal compound, do not use any compound with Silver in it as it is conductive, and make absolutely sure that whatever brand you decide to go with DOES NOT CONDUCT ELECTRICITY - YOU WILL FRY YOUR ANTMINER!!!!!


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August 08, 2014, 09:04:14 AM
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Hi Guys

I just got my antminer s3 and having big problems.

It's only mining at about 250ghs and gets around 75% hw error.

I am using a brand new Corsair CX500 and have also tried with my Corsair HX850.
I have changed the thermal paste on all the chips.
I have flashed it to latest firmware.
I have very stable internet connection.

Anyone have advice for me?

After 5min: http://i62.tinypic.com/2psln39.jpg
After 10min: http://i61.tinypic.com/28vaza.jpg
HW error: http://i58.tinypic.com/262qnmq.jpg
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August 08, 2014, 09:14:46 AM
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Do you guys feel it is good to instantly remove the heatsinks and apply new thermal paste to the chips?

I am unsure of the quality paste used from manufacturer but I highly doubt it is premium due to production costs.

I have been running both of my Ant's OC'd to 500 GH/s and 490 GH/s and both temperatures are well within normal ranges and all chips are stable and hashing with no X's.  One of them has been running a few hours as if you look up a post or two you'll see where we came up with the newer smaller incremental frequency steps, and that is the one running at 490 GH/s up from the 237.5 clock which was in the 470-480 GH/s range, while the other has been running for 72 hours at 500 GH/s.  

Highest temperature reached by any miner is 44C, while averaging 40-43 C in use, so I would say replacing the thermal compound is unnecessary.

That being said, if you do decide to go ahead and upgrade/replace the thermal compound, do not use any compound with Silver in it as it is conductive, and make absolutely sure that whatever brand you decide to go with DOES NOT CONDUCT ELECTRICITY - YOU WILL FRY YOUR ANTMINER!!!!!




I see Smiley Yes my current have same temperature, from some pictures I have seen of heatsinks removed I noticed very bad application of the paste. I don't expect too much from the assembly line.

Silly question but I must ask, outside of trial and error how are you coming up with the newer reg codes you posted above? Should I completely ignore the first page and use the recent posting?
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Do you guys feel it is good to instantly remove the heatsinks and apply new thermal paste to the chips?

I am unsure of the quality paste used from manufacturer but I highly doubt it is premium due to production costs.

I have been running both of my Ant's OC'd to 500 GH/s and 490 GH/s and both temperatures are well within normal ranges and all chips are stable and hashing with no X's.  One of them has been running a few hours as if you look up a post or two you'll see where we came up with the newer smaller incremental frequency steps, and that is the one running at 490 GH/s up from the 237.5 clock which was in the 470-480 GH/s range, while the other has been running for 72 hours at 500 GH/s.  

Highest temperature reached by any miner is 44C, while averaging 40-43 C in use, so I would say replacing the thermal compound is unnecessary.

That being said, if you do decide to go ahead and upgrade/replace the thermal compound, do not use any compound with Silver in it as it is conductive, and make absolutely sure that whatever brand you decide to go with DOES NOT CONDUCT ELECTRICITY - YOU WILL FRY YOUR ANTMINER!!!!!




I see Smiley Yes my current have same temperature, from some pictures I have seen of heatsinks removed I noticed very bad application of the paste. I don't expect too much from the assembly line.

Silly question but I must ask, outside of trial and error how are you coming up with the newer reg codes you posted above? Should I completely ignore the first page and use the recent posting?

I separated out the operating speed's into incremental steps and JakeTri calculated the appropriate Freq values and Timings.
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